Game Thread Spurs (5-2) vs Rockets (6-2) (Fri 11/07/25) [6:30PM CDT] on Prime Video

KD: 1 Reb, 2 ASTs. 8 TOs in 37 minutes..

I know it is one game, but the impact on winning and the ability to impose his will on the opponent is not there anymore.. I felt like this is been the case since that Wolves sweep a couple years ago..Spurs didn't push hard for Durant for a reason: They've spotted the regression and his timeline doesn't correspond with theirs.. Houston only got a couple of long-ish title shots with him..
 
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KD: 1 Reb, 2 ASTs. 8 TOs in 37 minutes..

I know it is one game, but the impact on winning and the ability to impose his will on the opponent is not there anymore.. I felt like this is been the case since that Wolves sweep a couple years ago..Spurs didn't push hard for Durant for a reason: They've spotted the regression and his timeline doesn't correspond with theirs.. Houston only got a couple of long-ish title shots with him..
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Tbf, they got him just for his scoring. If they still had FVV/another good PG they'd be right there with OKC/Denver as title favorites. Also, Barnes/Spurs' defense made him look a lot worse than he is tonight tbh.
 
Robz4000 said:
Tbf, they got him just for his scoring. If they still had FVV/another good PG they'd be right there with OKC/Denver as title favorites. Also, Barnes/Spurs' defense made him look a lot worse than he is tonight tbh.
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His numbers and efficiency down across the board playing same minutes, not just this game..I agree they need proper PG as even KD is no longer reliable playmaker..If i'm Houston i would swing for the fences and trade for Derrick White at the deadline with Jrue as plan B..
 
This is not something I'm going to make a habit of keeping track of...

But several hours after this game ended (11:22p CST)

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scott said:
This is not something I'm going to make a habit of keeping track of...

But several hours after this game ended (11:22p CST)

BB Game Thread: 1,108 posts
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That’s sad, but I’ll look at it like this, Spurstalk was for the Timmy big 3 era and baselinebums is for the Wemby era
 
Robz4000 said:
Tbf, they got him just for his scoring. If they still had FVV/another good PG they'd be right there with OKC/Denver as title favorites. Also, Barnes/Spurs' defense made him look a lot worse than he is tonight tbh.
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I can't imagine that contract is going to get any better. They do have FRPs coming up that aren't theirs, but those may not be as good as we thought.
 
ambchang said:
I am not sure if the Spurs will lose or not (probably will) but I am not that concerned about that part of it.

The difference is that Houston actually has an offensive system, and Sengun has been playing the conductor pretty well on the offence for the Rockets, where Thompson is doing very well as a connector and Durant and company as finishers. The Spurs theoretically has the personnel to do it (Wemby for Sengun, Castle for Thompson, and urr... maybe we don't have finishers), but we just don't have much of a system.

Wemby should really work on the facilitator role now and get that patience on offence. If a wing is on him, then a big is on our wing, and that wing should be quick and nimble enough to cut for open shots. Problem is we are all just standing around where the spacing is horrible.

Mitch, I am looking at you.

My previous long-ass post on this topic: https://baselinebums.com/threads/2025-26-nba-thread.59/post-18515
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Well said. The Rockets lack a point guard (and Reed isn't cutting it as yet), but Amen Thompson always promised to be a Point Forward at least as a prospect and has been good at that position.
Kick-Stand said:
  1. Victor played like shit the first quarter and a half, Charmin soft setting up at the three point line and in the corner. Rockets were getting away with guarding him with Sheppard FFS. Most frustrating quarter and a half of Spurs basketball I have seen in a long time.
  2. Mitch must have gotten in Victor's ass because he spent the rest of the game setting up on the low block or the high post.
  3. Once Victor got on the block it opened up a ton of open threes plus easy second chance points off misses. Champ and Unc capitalized from distance and Keldon was a terror on the offensive glass.
  4. In the second half Victor would setup on the low block and then run to catch the pass a little past the FT line and started really scoring. They were forced to guard him with bigs since he went on the block and it opened up lots of midrange and driving opportunities for Victor on those high post catches.
Seemed like a very Duncan-esque performance from Victor in the final 2.5 quarters where the statline doesn't jump off the page but where everything was created by him. Very impressive game all in all even after that hideous first quarter and a half where his soft play completely destroyed the offense (Spurs would go on runs when Victor went to the bench).
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Very nicely put and can't say it better.

I got the same thought at roughly the end of the game. This was a Duncanesque performance by Wemby. Fancy footwork and Olajuwon training, energy and length utilisation and Garnett training, conditioning and strength and Shaolin training...they are all good and have clearly helped Wemby. But all he lacked in the last 2 games were a bit of the fundamentals - positioning, playing off and with teammates and controlling the temporary/rhythm of the game. That my friends, is what is meant by Duncanesque. Here's hoping Wemby has TD in his ear now and then when he is in SA. That bad boy is going to be the true inspiration for Wemby's next evolution.
 
Kick-Stand said:
  1. Victor played like shit the first quarter and a half, Charmin soft setting up at the three point line and in the corner. Rockets were getting away with guarding him with Sheppard FFS. Most frustrating quarter and a half of Spurs basketball I have seen in a long time.
  2. Mitch must have gotten in Victor's ass because he spent the rest of the game setting up on the low block or the high post.
  3. Once Victor got on the block it opened up a ton of open threes plus easy second chance points off misses. Champ and Unc capitalized from distance and Keldon was a terror on the offensive glass.
  4. In the second half Victor would setup on the low block and then run to catch the pass a little past the FT line and started really scoring. They were forced to guard him with bigs since he went on the block and it opened up lots of midrange and driving opportunities for Victor on those high post catches.
Seemed like a very Duncan-esque performance from Victor in the final 2.5 quarters where the statline doesn't jump off the page but where everything was created by him. Very impressive game all in all even after that hideous first quarter and a half where his soft play completely destroyed the offense (Spurs would go on runs when Victor went to the bench).
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You guys keep calling his play soft but they were putting him in bad spots. The idea was to use the space created by the soft doubles and even triples before he even has the ball but without Fox and Harper we can't do that. Or even with Kornet in there they would have been able to punish it. They adjusted. Victor didn't just stop doing what was working the first 5 games, the NBA adjusted and said the rest of the Spurs have to beat them. Mitch put him in a much better spot in the 2nd half to facilitate and see the doubles as they were coming and thankfully the Spurs hit their shots. Reminded me a lot of what Robinson used to get pre Duncan but Victor doesn't have that kind of strength. He's definitely gotten stronger but he'll never be like David was.

This team is really fucking young and they are figuring things out in real time and that shit isn't soft. Frustration definitely did creep in for Vic and he went back to his 3s, but that's on Mitch more than anything.
 
MannyIG said:
You guys keep calling his play soft but they were putting him in bad spots. The idea was to use the space created by the soft doubles and even triples before he even has the ball but without Fox and Harper we can't do that. Or even with Kornet in there they would have been able to punish it. They adjusted. Victor didn't just stop doing what was working the first 5 games, the NBA adjusted and said the rest of the Spurs have to beat them.
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Meh Victor was hiding in the corner disengaged half the time in that terrible quarter and a half he played, that shit was soft as hell.
 
Kick-Stand said:
  1. Victor played like shit the first quarter and a half, Charmin soft setting up at the three point line and in the corner. Rockets were getting away with guarding him with Sheppard FFS. Most frustrating quarter and a half of Spurs basketball I have seen in a long time.
  2. Mitch must have gotten in Victor's ass because he spent the rest of the game setting up on the low block or the high post.
  3. Once Victor got on the block it opened up a ton of open threes plus easy second chance points off misses. Champ and Unc capitalized from distance and Keldon was a terror on the offensive glass.
  4. In the second half Victor would setup on the low block and then run to catch the pass a little past the FT line and started really scoring. They were forced to guard him with bigs since he went on the block and it opened up lots of midrange and driving opportunities for Victor on those high post catches.
Seemed like a very Duncan-esque performance from Victor in the final 2.5 quarters where the statline doesn't jump off the page but where everything was created by him. Very impressive game all in all even after that hideous first quarter and a half where his soft play completely destroyed the offense (Spurs would go on runs when Victor went to the bench).
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Wemby has a lot to learn and we are going to have to be patient with him. I know some fans won’t do that and they will scream and yell when he struggles or fails to recognize how he’s being defended. But he’s only 22 years old. If he stays healthy, he can live up to all the expectations. But it’s not going to happen in the next 6 months.
 
Naga said:
Yeah what the hell? It was insane to watch. I legitimately try not to be a homer or complain about refs, but Sengun is absolutely miserable to watch. Why is he getting superstar whistles and ignored on the other side? He had at least 12 uncalled PF’s out there 😂
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I was mad when Sengun backed Wemby down slowly in the post and Wemby looked like he was just getting dominated. Then saw the replay of all the elbows Sengun threw during it and understood.
 
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I was mad when Sengun backed Wemby down slowly in the post and Wemby looked like he was just getting dominated. Then saw the replay of all the elbows Sengun threw during it and understood.
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The first foul Victor had (an offensive foul), did he actually hit Sengun in the face? Sengun was holding his face, but I didn't see any contact to his face in the replay. Did I see it wrong?
 
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