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spursistan said:
Clippers could easily fall to 9-25 heading to that Kings game. Short of a Giannis trade, i don't see any transaction on the market getting them out of this demoralizing hole. They're cooked. A Top 6-8 pick is almost guaranteed for OKC in next draft.

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Just pls not top 3. Already a nightmare matchup and you add Darryn Peterson, AJ Dybantsa, or Cam Boozer on a rookie deal?
 
Kick-Stand said:
Just pls not top 3. Already a nightmare matchup and you add Darryn Peterson, AJ Dybantsa, or Cam Boozer on a rookie deal?
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I don't think they will have projected Top 4 odds: Wiz, Pacers, Nets, Pelicans, Kings are lock to be worse than Clippers. I expect Hornets and Jazz (Top 8 protection to OKC :st-lol:) to put the pedal to the metal on the tank post-deadline.. Just hope nothing crazy happens with the ping pong balls, i can live with Thunder getting the 7th or 8th pick. Still, an insane trade and genuinely worse than the Luka one. At best, Lakers will win one Championship and then Doncic will get fat again. The Clippers? They built a dynasty for another franchise.
 
Oh my if anyone has a Golden Riggers vs Phoenix Suns play by play for the final minute, please inform.
I'm waiting for the replay.
Was it a legit Flag 2 on Booker vs Stephina?

Glorious ending
Phx 99
Golden 98

Is Dallas for real? They are putting together some Ws.
 
Mugen said:
Pelicans will be better than the Clippers tbh
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Pels have actually some young talent and lively bodies on their roster, they really shouldn't have been this bad to begin with. The scary part for the Clippers is that there is no conceivable move on the market that gets them out of this 6-21 hole (facing Lakers, Houston, @ Portland, Detroit next:st-lol:) They are old, flawed, and clearly quit on Lue & JVG.
 
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spursistan said:
Pels have actually some young talent and lively bodies on their roster, they really shouldn't have been this bad to begin with. The scary part for the Clippers is that there is no conceivable move on the market that gets them out of this 6-21 hole (facing Lakers, Houston, @ Portland, Detroit next:st-lol:) They are old, flawed, and clearly quit on Lue & JVG.
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And Pelicans at least have all of their picks after this year.
Clippers don't own any of theirs outright until 2030.
We're about to witness historic levels of awfulness.

Pelicans are also on a 3W streak and play the Pacers next.
I think it's going to be between the Clippers and the Kings for the worst record in the West.
 
LeBowen said:
And Pelicans at least have all of their picks after this year.
Clippers don't own any of theirs outright until 2030.
We're about to witness historic levels of awfulness.

Pelicans are also on a 3W streak and play the Pacers next.
I think it's going to be between the Clippers and the Kings for the worst record in the West.
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Genuinely don't know what you do to salvage this Clippers season and prevent OKC from lucking into Top 3 pick. Normally you can't fire all players; the coach has got to go first in hope that a new voice will spark even a short-lived bounce, but as someone said it seems like both Lawrence Frank (got extended) & Lue have too much dirt on Ballmer (the Kawhi's tampering & Aspiration saga etc..) so he can't move on them with a massive investigation going on.
Trading Harden now for pieces (3&D types) while gambling on Kawhi's staying healthy seems like only recourse here. Beyond this season, just hire Tyler Jenkins and hope he can cobble together a competitive regular season rotation while injecting bunch of 2n rounders & mid-career reclamation projects like in his Memphis days. Sometimes you need a change of vibes (see Phoenix)..Then 2027 Free agency (Kawhi expires) is basically their last hope to stave off years of perdition
 
spursistan said:
Genuinely don't know what you do to salvage this Clippers season and prevent OKC from lucking into Top 3 pick. Normally you can't fire all players; the coach has got to go first in hope that a new voice will spark even a short-lived bounce, but as someone said it seems like both Lawrence Frank (got extended) & Lue have too much dirt on Ballmer (the Kawhi's tampering & Aspiration saga etc..) so he can't move on them with a massive investigation going on.
Trading Harden now for pieces (3&D types) while gambling on Kawhi's staying healthy seems like only recourse here. Beyond this season, just hire Tyler Jenkins and hope he can cobble together a competitive regular season rotation while injecting bunch of 2n rounders & mid-career reclamation projects like in his Memphis days. Sometimes you need a change of vibes (see Phoenix)..Then 2027 Free agency (Kawhi expires) is basically their last hope to stave off years of perdition
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Yeah I think the Clips are dead in the water. Kawhi and Harden are low key toxic personalities and there's not much talent on the roster. Bring a new coach in is about the only thing you can do.

We'll see if the lotto is actually rigged this year. No way does Silver want another big player going to OKC. It's already terrible for them that such a small market that has few fans is doing so well. No one wants to watch the Thunder win outside of Oklahoma. It's a disaster for the NBA.
 
The game has changed from strength-based to speed based over the last decade or so. Not saying that the previous game didn't rely on speed or the current game didn't require strength, just that the balance has tilted a to more speed based. Yes, you would require the strength to create contact on offence and finish in a crowd, but the speed aspect is, imo, more important due to all the cutting, change in directions and shiftiness in moves. This means that youth actually has more of an advantage than before, and with players coming to the league younger and younger, you have these 25 year olds who have been in the league for 6 years but still have the speed they had in the early 20s, where in the past they'd be sophs without the knowledge or developed skills. Long way of saying, these teams built on older late 20's early 30's stars seem to be faltering.

To be clear though, I don't mean younger is better, as the Nets, Wiz, Pels, Hornets, Grizzlies aren't that good and they are all very young, but when you look at the top teams like OKC (6th youngest), DET (13th youngest), Spurs (14th youngest) and TOR (9th youngest), young rosters doesn't necessarily mean bad. Of course there are good teams that are old, but a few got an old average age, but are skewed by old guys who play less than the young guys.
  • Houston is the 3rd oldest team, but only Durant (37) plays significant minutes (36mpg). Adams plays 22, and Capela plays 11. Everybody else who plays more than 20 mpg are 27 and younger.
  • LAL is the the 7th oldest team, but they are clearly built around Luka, who is only 26, and Reaves, who is 27. Lebron at 41 pulls their age way up., then it's Smart at 31. Other players like Rui, Aytno, Vanderilt, Hayes and LaVaria are all 27 and under. Besides, they just somehow kept winning these games they shouldn't win (13th in NetRtg, while tied for the 3rd best record in the West and 4th in the league) while once again leading the league in FTA (2.9 more than the Spurs and 5.5 more than the Knicks, who just happened to have the same record as them) and having the 7th least FTAs given to the opponents. Intriguing.
I'd say the Knicks (5th oldest) and Denver (9th oldest) are the two old good teams.


Comparing the 10 oldest and 10 youngest teams in the past few decades
10 Oldest teams10 Youngest Teams
YearWLW%# with W% >=.5WLW%# with W% >=.5
2024-25472348.5767376444.4594
2015-16513307.62610371449.4524
2005-06510310.6229326494.3982

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Compared to 10 years ago, in the 2015-16 season, the best teams (50+ wins) in the league were GSW (the 73 win one, 10th oldest), Spurs(2nd), OKC (21st), LAC (4th), Cleveland (7th), and Raptors (18th). All 10 of the oldest teams had a .500 or better record, while 6 of the 10 youngest teams had a losing record (exceptions being POR, DET, BOS and OKC).
Then 20 years ago. The 50+ win teams were Pistons (5th), Spurs(1st), Suns(8th), Mavs(7th), Cavs(12th), Heat(2nd). The Nets, a 49-win team, was the 3rd oldest.. 9 of the 10 oldest teams in the league had a winning record, with the Rockets (3rd) being the only exception. Only 2 of the 10 youngest teams had a winning record.
 
:lol Finch getting ejected early into the OKC/Minny game.

Don't understand why the NBA is choosing to protect that hideous franchise.
 
OKC about to get their 3rd loss. No chance they catch 73-9 lol.

Spurs gotta be ready for their rematch coming up. It will be much tougher now that OKC will want revenge and to regain momentum.
 
If you can contain SGA a bit and play through the gout of calls they get in their favor, a good team will have a chance.
 
timtonymanu said:
OKC about to get their 3rd loss. No chance they catch 73-9 lol.

Spurs gotta be ready for their rematch coming up. It will be much tougher now that OKC will want revenge and to regain momentum.
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Probably the best thing to happen for OKC, tbh. Let the record chase die early and focus on repeating. That said, that Warriors team looked more intimidating and felt more inevitable than this Thunder.. OKC's offense is more stoppable as we saw in last year's playoffs..
 
Regarding my consistent claims that OKC is very good but require officials to forget the rules for them to be dominant.

Well…
 
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