Player The unfortunately low-ceilinged Shaolin monastery of Victor Wembanyama

Limguoguolo said:
Only those who are seen as potential competitors are perceived as arrogant. I see this as the difference between authority and authoritarianism. Someone who has authority doesn't need to say they are better or that they must be respected. If they have authority, it's obvious. Others speak for them.

If he's better than Chet and there's no question about it, he wouldn't need to say so. If he says so, it means there's competition.

Only people who are unsure of the authority they might have show arrogance. Arrogance is not a sign of quality, it is a sign of weakness. Parisians are considered arrogant because they have an opinion on everything and perhaps live in the capital of the world, if we take the last five centuries into account. And just saying this is an admission that it is already on the way to being overtaken by other capitals. The French are similarly perceived as arrogant, also when others imagine that they invented three-quarters of the chic and sophisticated things on the planet. Just look at the number of English words composed of “French ***”. So as soon as a French person appears, it's this whole “chic” heritage that shines through. It doesn't take much to confirm the cliché.

If we are less inclined to view Americans through this lens, it is because they have been world leaders since 1945. However, we are increasingly hearing that they are arrogant with China taking the lead and a stupid fascist as president. We already see this with MAGA, a slogan that literally states the obvious. In rhetoric, what we specify is what is not self-evident. Before, America was the world's greatest power, so if we need to say Make America Great Again, we are chasing away the implicit obviousness, and what we are announcing highlights the opposite of what we are trying to say.

Victor only makes a fool of himself when he talks about himself, when he says that when he comes back he'll be the best player in the league, when he says that Chet is no match for him. He's coming back from injury, Victor should understand that these statements are above all an admission of weakness. What we specify is what is not self-evident.

If everyone was convinced that Victor would be the best player once he returned, he wouldn't need to say so. If everyone was convinced that Victor and Chet were two diametrically different talents, he wouldn't need to state the obvious that there's no contest. That's arrogance. And arrogance is the expression of the opposite of what is claimed. There are fools who constantly display arrogance and self-confidence. There's no need to point out their stupidity. Victor is intelligent. But he's also young, he's still developing, and he lacks confidence. He tells himself these things to reassure himself that he is what many think he could be, but is not yet. Rushing things won't make him stronger. It will only reveal his fragility and impatience.

And indirectly, it's likely that the coach understood this and took it into consideration when deciding to start him on the bench. Victor would not have understood the message. San Antonio is neither New York, Los Angeles, nor Paris. Humility is required. And for now, the other players on the team are showing him how much the Spurs play as a team. That's their DNA. He should leave statements about masculinity or power to those who are insecure about it. Otherwise, by the end of the season, he'll be able to walk across Greenland.

I would add a less rhetorical and more psychological explanation. Victor has to be “unique.” Chet and Victor are great skinny inside players with outside skills. We're not talking about talent, we're talking about Victor's uniqueness:

“Are you the only condor on earth?” “Absolutely. Oh, look! An albatross! Isn't it ridiculous!” “But I didn't see it. Couldn't it be another condor?” “No, it's an albatross. I'm the only condor on earth.” “You're right, this condor can fly. You're here, talking and talking.”

Victor is better... yes, well, can he fly as a start? Prove what a condor is capable of doing in the air not in press conferences.
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Good luck surviving all the fascism. It’s obviously having a major impact on your life.
 
Limguoguolo said:
Only those who are seen as potential competitors are perceived as arrogant. I see this as the difference between authority and authoritarianism. Someone who has authority doesn't need to say they are better or that they must be respected. If they have authority, it's obvious. Others speak for them.

If he's better than Chet and there's no question about it, he wouldn't need to say so. If he says so, it means there's competition.

Only people who are unsure of the authority they might have show arrogance. Arrogance is not a sign of quality, it is a sign of weakness. Parisians are considered arrogant because they have an opinion on everything and perhaps live in the capital of the world, if we take the last five centuries into account. And just saying this is an admission that it is already on the way to being overtaken by other capitals. The French are similarly perceived as arrogant, also when others imagine that they invented three-quarters of the chic and sophisticated things on the planet. Just look at the number of English words composed of “French ***”. So as soon as a French person appears, it's this whole “chic” heritage that shines through. It doesn't take much to confirm the cliché.

If we are less inclined to view Americans through this lens, it is because they have been world leaders since 1945. However, we are increasingly hearing that they are arrogant with China taking the lead and a stupid fascist as president. We already see this with MAGA, a slogan that literally states the obvious. In rhetoric, what we specify is what is not self-evident. Before, America was the world's greatest power, so if we need to say Make America Great Again, we are chasing away the implicit obviousness, and what we are announcing highlights the opposite of what we are trying to say.

Victor only makes a fool of himself when he talks about himself, when he says that when he comes back he'll be the best player in the league, when he says that Chet is no match for him. He's coming back from injury, Victor should understand that these statements are above all an admission of weakness. What we specify is what is not self-evident.

If everyone was convinced that Victor would be the best player once he returned, he wouldn't need to say so. If everyone was convinced that Victor and Chet were two diametrically different talents, he wouldn't need to state the obvious that there's no contest. That's arrogance. And arrogance is the expression of the opposite of what is claimed. There are fools who constantly display arrogance and self-confidence. There's no need to point out their stupidity. Victor is intelligent. But he's also young, he's still developing, and he lacks confidence. He tells himself these things to reassure himself that he is what many think he could be, but is not yet. Rushing things won't make him stronger. It will only reveal his fragility and impatience.

And indirectly, it's likely that the coach understood this and took it into consideration when deciding to start him on the bench. Victor would not have understood the message. San Antonio is neither New York, Los Angeles, nor Paris. Humility is required. And for now, the other players on the team are showing him how much the Spurs play as a team. That's their DNA. He should leave statements about masculinity or power to those who are insecure about it. Otherwise, by the end of the season, he'll be able to walk across Greenland.

I would add a less rhetorical and more psychological explanation. Victor has to be “unique.” Chet and Victor are great skinny inside players with outside skills. We're not talking about talent, we're talking about Victor's uniqueness:

“Are you the only condor on earth?” “Absolutely. Oh, look! An albatross! Isn't it ridiculous!” “But I didn't see it. Couldn't it be another condor?” “No, it's an albatross. I'm the only condor on earth.” “You're right, this condor can fly. You're here, talking and talking.”

Victor is better... yes, well, can he fly as a start? Prove what a condor is capable of doing in the air not in press conferences.
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Merry Christmas!
 
Power, passion and possibility.............!

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He needs to cut out the crap of bringing the ball down where anyone on the other team shorter than him (i.e. anyone) has an easy path to reaching in for the steal. Sean Elliott has harped on it, he even criticized Duncan some times for it. Other than to dribble, he should be holding the ball high like the statue of liberty at all times. Also, he needs to take better advantage of his talent. He can shoot a three over anyone at any time and never get blocked and only minimally contested, but why not establish position in the low post more often and dunk over the opponent like prime Shaq? (Or Wilt Chamberlain.) And unlike with Shaq or Wilt the other team can't even foul you because you're an 80% free throw shooter not 50%. Wemby is wasting himself!
 
Millennial_Messiah said:
He needs to cut out the crap of bringing the ball down where anyone on the other team shorter than him (i.e. anyone) has an easy path to reaching in for the steal. Sean Elliott has harped on it, he even criticized Duncan some times for it. Other than to dribble, he should be holding the ball high like the statue of liberty at all times. Also, he needs to take better advantage of his talent. He can shoot a three over anyone at any time and never get blocked and only minimally contested, but why not establish position in the low post more often and dunk over the opponent like prime Shaq? (Or Wilt Chamberlain.) And unlike with Shaq or Wilt the other team can't even foul you because you're an 80% free throw shooter not 50%. Wemby is wasting himself!
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I’d say Victor is doing jus fine..
 
Wemby's offense as a propelling force for the entire team is definitely not yet at an elite level..I think the playoffs will expose this more evidently. Sometimes I even think he regressed from year 2..
 
spursistan said:
Wemby's offense as a propelling force for the entire team is definitely not yet at an elite level..I think the playoffs will expose this more evidently. Sometimes I even think he regressed from year 2..
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He was out for a good while but I agree. I haven't seen much progress in his offensive game this year tbh
 
spursistan said:
Wemby's offense as a propelling force for the entire team is definitely not yet at an elite level..I think the playoffs will expose this more evidently. Sometimes I even think he regressed from year 2..
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He didnt regress. He is just playing less minutes, in fact his shooting stats is better than last year.
 
NotRobDiaz21 said:
He was out for a good while but I agree. I haven't seen much progress in his offensive game this year tbh
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I think that he is doing a better job at asking the ball inside, he just has a hard time to create separation so a lot of time it looks like this slow motion drives to the basket with giant steps trying to stay on his feet battling the defender. His lack of strength is often showing. I wish he would develop KD or Garnet's moves, he is tall he should be able to shoot over defenders
 
spursistan said:
Wemby's offense as a propelling force for the entire team is definitely not yet at an elite level..I think the playoffs will expose this more evidently. Sometimes I even think he regressed from year 2..
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Bro he just scored 32pts in 26' shooting 57%... ^^

When he's cold he's hard to watch and he's barely scratching who he'll become and there's so much attention on him that even a simple P&R ... is not that simple, Kornet frees himself a lot easier for ex

Tonight the issues were transition D and 3pts efficiency. Add Mitch's weird lineups and that's why we lost
 
PanameSpur said:
Bro he just scored 32pts in 26' shooting 57%... ^^

When he's cold he's hard to watch and he's barely scratching who he'll become and there's so much attention on him that even a simple P&R ... is not that simple, Kornet frees himself a lot easier for ex

Tonight the issues were transition D and 3pts efficiency. Add Mitch's weird lineups and that's why we lost
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Jazz shooting lightsout and spurs unable to capitalize the opportunity to get over the hump is the reason spurs lost the game
 
sKiN20 said:
Jazz shooting lightsout and spurs unable to capitalize the opportunity to get over the hump is the reason spurs lost the game
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Sure, many things

The transition points is what made them create the gap in the 2nd and made us run all game after the score tho
 
Not saying he is a lesser player now, but with all the opponents avoiding him big time in regards of blocked shots and our three playmakers getting the assists, do we still feel like he will ever get a quatripple double?
 
This is the first game I can remember with Wemby putting up high scoring numbers from really exploiting the PnR, which was good to see that developing.

I actually thought this was one of his worst defensive performances, which is crazy considering he had what… 5 blocks? He was camping out in the paint way too much. The refs probably could have called defensive 3 seconds on him a half dozen times if they wanted to.
 
Spurs may have even won the game if Victor didn't have to go to the bench in the 4th quarter for that 3-4 minutes rest. If he could have played the whole quarter Spurs may have won. He didn't have a great game offensively either and still put a good numbers. I liked a lot of what he did out there on offense, but like Scott said, his defense wasn't really good. The 5 blocks don't tell the story there.

One thing that bothers me is his comments on Jokic not being an MVP/best player discussion. Jokic's offense is so far ahead of other centers/players it's ridiculous. I understand the statement was probably him saying that he values defense when looking at the equation of who are the best player/s in the NBA, but Victor's defense is as far ahead as Jokic's offense is, so if Jokic isn't the MVP with his offense because his defense is far behind, then Victor shouldn't be saying he's the best player when his offensive is way behind his defense.
 
mudyez said:
Not saying he is a lesser player now, but with all the opponents avoiding him big time in regards of blocked shots and our three playmakers getting the assists, do we still feel like he will ever get a quatripple double?
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quadruple double will be hard to get if wemby doesnt play ball dominant basket ball.
 
Ice009 said:
Spurs may have even won the game if Victor didn't have to go to the bench in the 4th quarter for that 3-4 minutes rest. If he could have played the whole quarter Spurs may have won. He didn't have a great game offensively either and still put a good numbers. I liked a lot of what he did out there on offense, but like Scott said, his defense wasn't really good. The 5 blocks don't tell the story there.

One thing that bothers me is his comments on Jokic not being an MVP/best player discussion. Jokic's offense is so far ahead of other centers/players it's ridiculous. I understand the statement was probably him saying that he values defense when looking at the equation of who are the best player/s in the NBA, but Victor's defense is as far ahead as Jokic's offense is, so if Jokic isn't the MVP with his offense because his defense is far behind, then Victor shouldn't be saying he's the best player when his offensive is way behind his defense.
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If there is a 1 on 1 tournament, I don't think anyone can beat Wemby (as long as he imagine his opponent as Chet).

But in a 5 on 5 game, Wemby is definitely not the best player as he is still too inconsistent and still make bone headed play thinking he is Jamal Crawford dribbling against 2 or more players.
 
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