Game Thread Spurs (8-3) vs Warriors (7-6) (Fri 11/14/25) [8:30PM CDT]

The perimeter D really sux. We have also allow Cam Thomas and Trey Murphy to go off for 40+

SGA or Tyreese Maxey gonna go off for 50+ on us tbh
Yup devin booker and others went off on us as well.This team still needs alot of improvement roster wise along with coaching it seems.
 
Curry is so ridiculous lol. Gonna miss Steph heater games more than anybody from this generation. But spurstalk people hated him because he wiggles his shoulders
 
The thing I'm most livid about is that this team has injected life in the zombie Warriors after they looked like they were ready to implode with locker room issues.. Not stepping on their throats Up 17 in first half of Wednesday Game was a huge mistake the team keep repeating all season long. The lack of urgency and killer instinct has unfortunately been the hallmark of Mitch's Spurs this season, more so than in his interim stint..
 
Well, just watched the game. Gut punch loss. Spurs threw away another game, got outplayed in the end. Pretty crushing loss.

I guess I'd better give the Warriors and especially Curry props. Fucking great player and still a solid team, especially their vets.

Spurs, too many mistakes. Victor taking too many jumpers, De'Aaron, not sure as I'm 50/50 on his game. I felt the team didn't get him the ball enough when he was rolling. He bailed them out a few times earlier in the game, and then inferior players kept trying to make plays instead of getting him the ball. He tried to bail them out at the end (I'm not putting the loss on Fox at all). Mr out of bounds Julian Champagnie, no awareness whatsoever whenever his feet are close to the sideline. I know he hit a few shots earlier, but I don't think they should ever have him out there in the closing lineups.

I really want Dylan back badly. I just can't watch half these guys.

The thing I'm most livid about is that this team has injected life in the zombie Warriors after they looked like they were ready to implode with locker room issues.. Not stepping on their throats Up 17 in first half of Wednesday Game was a huge mistake the team keep repeating all season long. The lack of urgency and killer instinct has unfortunately been the hallmark of Mitch's Spurs this season, more so than in his interim stint..
100%. Gave them life and they stepped on the Spurs throats the second game in crunch time and took that one too. Spurs better hope they don't meet in the playoffs as they're going to have supreme confidence on the Spurs' homecourt.
 
Warriors experience does it again. Mitch did the right thing by not playing keldon toward the end and actually trotting Jeremy out there unlike the previous game. Over time, castle will clean up those turnovers and protect the ball better.

Fox is Mr clutch but didn't show it a whole lot in that final minute
 
Fox missed the entire training camp, busy recovering from offseason surgery. Let’s grant him a generous 14 business days before we start throwing shade—unless, of course, patience isn’t your thing. After all, Our US of A thrives on your right to judge early and often. Unless you are a foreigner, then please disregard the last remark.
I don't understand why people are getting on Fox. I agree with you. Geezus. Give him some more time. How about you clowns go out there with no training camp and be thrown in the heat of the battle against insane players like Steph Curry and show me what you can do? Fox bailed the Spurs out numerous possessions. He played bad at the end. How about you get on the players that have been playing all season, and as expected, coming up small in the bigger games (Devin, Keldon, Julian). How about you guys get on those guys. Instead of these guys looking for their own shots, maybe they should have tried to get De'Aaron the ball more when it looked like he was getting a bit of a rhythm.

Since Fox has a 4-year, $229 million contract extension, I think a generous 14 business days will be the very least we can (or must) grant him.

(But I actually do like Fox.)
:st-flag:
100%. Crazy that people are all over him when he's not had a training camp and is thrown in with a team full of low BBIQ players that have been playing all season, that should be in form, yet they can't even score anywhere close to what he has on his rusty/bad games (Keldon, Devin etc.). A game which he bailed them out a few times when plays broke down and they didn't even look to get him going after those bail out plays/shots of his. Yeah, he fucked up at the end, but who was going to step up for the Spurs? They didn't have anyone else to do it. If you want Victor to have the ball in all those situations, may as well trade Fox to Houston so he can win a few rings and Spurs can win zero with Keldon, Devin, Julian and that whole crew.

Boils down to this:: combined 45 millions in salary to get this kind production from the wing spot is not gonna cut it..

Exactly. I don't trust these guys in big games. Not sure how I'll feel in playoff games at all. These guys have been playing all season, so they should be in better form, but as expected, they're playing worse and worse as the season goes on. Don't expect them to step up in the bigger games. I don't want culture if all it does is come with losses. Heat culture actually seems to get wins with less talent. Spurs culture, no such thing. That was mostly TD, Manu, TP, and I know it's not popular to bring up his name, but Kawhi too got the team wins when he was healthy.
 
Last edited:
Curry is so ridiculous lol. Gonna miss Steph heater games more than anybody from this generation. But spurstalk people hated him because he wiggles his shoulders
I have no problem saying how great Curry is, but I do find it strange that he's considered "peak entertainment" in basketball. To me, sharpshooters can never be as entertaining as...any other style of superstar, really. Dunkers, leapers, guys with crazy footwork, even inefficient midrange artists are visually pleasing to the eye. I guess for me it comes down to variety. If you've seen one Curry performance, you've seen them all.
 
I have no problem saying how great Curry is, but I do find it strange that he's considered "peak entertainment" in basketball. To me, sharpshooters can never be as entertaining as...any other style of superstar, really. Dunkers, leapers, guys with crazy footwork, even inefficient midrange artists are visually pleasing to the eye. I guess for me it comes down to variety. If you've seen one Curry performance, you've seen them all.
Mate, shooting is an important part of the game and seeing Curry just do things beyond things, is so entertaining. He is so damn good.
 
I have no problem saying how great Curry is, but I do find it strange that he's considered "peak entertainment" in basketball. To me, sharpshooters can never be as entertaining as...any other style of superstar, really. Dunkers, leapers, guys with crazy footwork, even inefficient midrange artists are visually pleasing to the eye. I guess for me it comes down to variety. If you've seen one Curry performance, you've seen them all.
I disagree. He's fucking amazing to watch. I'd rather watch him when he does this than just about anything.

It just isn't as much fun when he's roasting your team.
 
After a promising start, it feels like we're reverting right back to where we were last season.
3-4 over the last 7 games.
One win against Giddey-less Bulls that should've been a loss if not for Wemby's ridiculous takeover.
The other one against awful Pelicans where we nearly got killed by Murphy, which is a recurring theme when playing elite scorers.
And the only great game against the Rockets.
Two losses where we bent over for Curry and awful displays against undermanned Suns and Lakers.
  • Mitch is showing that a lot of us (myself included) have started trusting him way too early. Poor rotations, no accountability for turnovers, awful sets after time-outs and awful 3pt defense. Sweeney is losing his mind on the bench every single game.
  • Wemby has reverted back into KD-wannabe role after having a great start in a more traditional setup. Him shooting a lot of 3s isn't even that big of an issue, but someone needs to tell him to fucking stop isoing on the perimeter when it rarely leads to anything good.
  • Devin is just a lost cause in the role we're playing him. He'll never be a spot up shooter because his Kobe tendencies always take over. It's year 6, it can't be fixed. Either move him to the bench and give him the ball while Harper is out or try and trade him while we can still maybe find a sucker to take his contract.
  • Keldon's effort is inversely proportional to his basketball IQ. Just an awful player in serious games, good as a spark plug against bad teams, but good teams will just bait him into doing dumb shit. And he's a turnstile on defense. Lost cause if we're to seriously compete.
  • Jeremy actually made improvements to his jumpshot, but the issue is that he's completely lost on offense, legit doesn't know how to play basketball.
  • Castle is the only one who seems to be a steady presence. Had a quiet game last night and still put up 13/9/6. A couple of turnovers were bad, but he's the only one who can be excused for it considering his age and role. He got cooked by Curry, but I'm not sure how much of it is on him when almost every 3pt he gave up was a 1v2 PNR play with no help defense.
  • Champ hit some shots, made some dumb plays, can't complain for $3M a year.
  • Kornet got completely neutralized and I'm not sure what was Mitch thinking by playing him and Wemby together in the second half when it was obvious we can't make use of size advantage on the other end.
  • Fox missed clutch shots, but for me the biggest issue was his passing. 10 assists and 4 turnovers doesn't look that bad, but some of the passes he was attempting to make are just awful and have nothing to do with his familiarity with the team. He also got stopped on the drives way too easily a couple of times, he's supposed to be the best guard paint penetrator in the league. He'll be under a lot of scrutiny over the next few months and rightfully so. We gave him a max deal right away and he better start delivering.
Overall, the same issues still persist.
Questionable coaching, pretty bad wing rotation and Wemby's tendencies to revert back to negative IQ play.
 
Last edited:
it is Castle’s second year, Wemby’s 3rd but he didn’t play half of last season, our rookie is injured, Fox has barely played in 6 months, Kornet is new. We all knew the limitations of the rest (Vassel, KD, Sochan, Champagnie…). Just because we won the first 5 games of the season didn’t mean that we were a contender. This year is a learning year, getting into the playoffs directly is the objective and hopefully go to the 2nd round.

My expectations:
- Castle continues to play like he does. I’m not expecting him to shoot 35% at 3 point
- Fox goes back to 20 points, 6 assists and cutting down his TO, I’m not expecting him to shoot 35% at 3 points
- Wemby to cut down his TOs. I’m not expecting him to stop dribbling like a guard or jacking up threes
- Harper to come back and play like he did the first few games
- I’m not expecting Vassel or Sochan to improve
 
About Curry ... he had only one 40 and a 50+ point game last season. His last time with 40+ points in two consecutive regular season games was in November 2022.

so props to the Spurs for whatever they did to him to make this shit happen. :ROFLMAO:
 
About Curry ... he had only one 40 and a 50+ point game last season. His last time with 40+ points in two consecutive regular season games was in November 2022.

so props to the Spurs for whatever they did to him to make this shit happen. :ROFLMAO:
Curry was clearly prepared for 2 high volume shooting games and when you think about it, he and Kerr definitely saw before the game that the Spurs were bottom 3 teams in defending the 3s.

Fool me once (1st game)... but fool me twice? Fuck you Mitch
 
I counted three instances in which 1 GS player got the offesnive rebound in the midst of four Spurs players around him ... can't make the shit up the Spurs still can't do when it matters
 
I counted three instances in which 1 GS player got the offesnive rebound in the midst of four Spurs players around him ... can't make the shit up the Spurs still can't do when it matters
From the 2 games against GSW. They are simply much faster than us. They miss tons of shots but still get the Off. Rebounds and that is deflating.

Tbh from these 2 games against GSW....I think we are gonna get blown out by 40 pts against OKC :st-lol:
 
Cant believe curry got back to back 40pts against us. Only playing like this against the spurs

We are the worst team at defending the 3 he is the best 3 pts shooter of the league.. no surprise he goes for 40
 
Actually I just rewatch the last shot by Fox and actually Wemby had a chance for a lob. Only Raymond was in front of him but Wemby had good position and he is a foot taller
 
The offense in the first half was terribly discombobulated, and that is mostly on Mitch. Sure, Wemby should know better at this point than to mostly loiter around the perimeter and dribble into traffic there, but if he doesn't, it's on the coach to tell him and fix it. Overall, almost nobody on the team seemed to be able to initiate and execute any kinds of set-plays.
It got better in the second half, so that's something, at least. The whole team, including the coach, seem very prone to reverting back to bad habits, though, and we saw that down the stretch when everyone involved made some bad, sometimes even baffling decisions. Sure, there was some hot shooting by the Warriors: Podz connecting on a really deep three and Payton II (who is shooting 20 % from downtown this season) hitting two threes in the clutch hurts but you can live with that. Our players just have to clean up mistakes like Vassell's terrible foul on Draymond or Fox seemingly forgetting how to play basketball altogether in the last minute and a half. I wonder if the last play was drawn up like that or if Mitch just told them to get the ball to Fox and let him try to come up with something - either way, it doesn'f reflect well on the coach at all.

Two hilariously bad random things:
1) Wemby being guarded by Buddy Hield and not being able to get past him or around him or just doing something to get a good post position for receiving a pass.
2) Sochan bringing the ball up and - utterly predictably - just cluelessly running into a defender parked underneath the Warriors' basket for a charge and a turnover. That should be a "get his ass immediately to the G League" kind of offence.
 
What a game. You gotta give the Warriors and Curry a ton of credit. They’ve built a solid squad around Curry’s gravity and executed down the stretch. Can’t blame officiating this go-around. Yes Pod 3 call was terrible, but we should’ve challenged.

The Warriors are one of the toughest if not THE toughest matchups for us. We are a terrible 3pt defense team. We were last year. Adding Fox Kornet Okynyk Waters isn’t going to change 3pt D this year. Adding Harper will, but he’s in a boot. Bryant would’ve been taken to school, as in like kindergarten.

Blanket statement - we are going through a ton of good growing pains. Too many to list across Mitch and the players, but feels like we’ve covered them on this thread.

HOWEVER, there are some callouts I want to make that I feel are unacceptable.

Mitch - how does it take 3 HALVES to figure out we shouldn’t be forcing French Vanilla? We all get the concept of those two. But if there ever was a team and player to NOT play them together it’s the Warriors and Curry. I’m not a Sochan Stan, but he is a mobile defensive wing to be used in certain situations. These last two games were them.

Sochan - I thought he played well. Yes he had a bad turnover and botched dunk, but he also played above average D on Butler when we needed him, hit a 3, and made a couple smart plays + easy dunk. He’s played 87 min TOTAL this season, including last night. Y’all remember last year when he was crushing on D and making cuts, passes, and back-downs on O? He can be a valuable tool on this team if we give him sufficient minutes to get back into his groove. Again, not a Sochan Stan, but I do think he needs more minutes so he’s ready when called upon.

Fox - back to the callouts. His D on Curry was absolutely unacceptable. Meandering, no energy, no effort. My brain was short circuiting. No he wasn’t tired. I’m chalking up his offensive struggles including lack of penetration to rust. If it’s not rust, we’re in big trouble, because without the penetration he’s just another scorer. Not a max player who alters the geometry.

Victor - encouraging stuff in the 2nd half. He finishes with 26/12/4/3 with 3 TO and 1 PF on pure talent. He could do so much more if the coaching staff (and HE) give him better starting position. It was excruciating watching the Warriors deny him the ball, even beyond the 3pt line. What are we doing?? Lots of words have been typed on this topic - but at the end of the day, Victor needs to learn to establish + demand the ball in the paint.

Champ / Vassell - it’s funny, these two players are so alike. Streaky shooters who can save us when we’re down, but can also kill us (is someone working with Champ on his OOB issues?? For the love of god). What’s not funny? One makes $27M, the other makes $3M.

Rapid fire - KJ was due for a bad game, but our coaching staff didn’t help him much either. Castle doing the lords work but he needed help - this was a game we really could’ve used Harper’s perimeter D and on-ball penetration on O. Kornet looked better defending and rebounding down low, but again, coaching staff.

All in all, a team and player designed to murder us. And they did. Not expecting similar results against good teams in the future (HOU game as example). Lots to grow from, but also a few red flags to keep a watchful eye on.
 
I agree that Fox is just coming back and we can give him some time before expecting him to be at his best.

But then maybe we shouldn't give him the ball with the game on the line then, right now. He had a realistic window into a Wemby halley-oop on that play.
 
Back
Top