Game Thread Spurs (25-10) @ Grizzlies (15-20) (Tue 01/06/2026) [7:00 PM CST]

tearsofmorningdew said:
I really want to know the sports science behind this arbitrary minutes restriction. That hyperextension (and a lot of other injuries) are freak accidents & not preventable with lower minutes
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Maybe it’s like one of those 90s action movies like Speed with Sandra Bullock. But instead of the Bus going over a certain speed, if Wemby plays more than 21 minutes, even by a second, Project Marvel gets cancelled.
 
tearsofmorningdew said:
I really want to know the sports science behind this arbitrary minutes restriction. That hyperextension (and a lot of other injuries) are freak accidents & not preventable with lower minutes
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its nonsense. theres no academic journal with some table printed out about what recovery timeline after what grade of injury allows how many in-game minutes of a professional sport.

its vibes based. usually it makes sense to ease someone in after an extended absence just to get their head right, get their cardio up, and just have them test/feel about their body and see how it reacts after exertion

but these hard rules days/weeks later are ridiculous
 
I think all these min restriction bullshit started after Thibs ruined D-Rose career by giving him too many mins.

But in reality, I think it is the playing style and wrong landing technique of D-Rose that caused his own injuries.
 
Did Barnes get the clap from a stripper in Vegas or something? I know he is a family man but HB needs to let whatever apparently happened in Vegas stay in Vegas.
 
spursparker9 said:
I think all these min restriction bullshit started after Thibs ruined D-Rose career by giving him too many mins.

But in reality, I think it is the playing style and wrong landing technique of D-Rose that caused his own injuries.
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I was just thinking this same thing today. How I remember watching Rose go down in pointless garbage time and was never the same again. It's definitely a balance, just like in Speed: Mitch would get roasted if he pulls Wemby early leading to an L but if wemby stays in and got significantly hurt everyone would also roast that saying Mitch blew postseason potential on a pointless game in Jan. I'll also add that I had a theory that DRose ate a lot of hard candy in his diet. It was apparently an excessive amount. I always thought the sugary candy and soda let to shitty tissue and ligaments and then his explosive style was just too much on top.
 
Low management after a twist without consequences does not seem to me to be a matter of science, but rather a misunderstanding of the difference between danger and risk or a matter of insurance.

Injuries in basketball are like car accidents. Playing is dangerous. This danger is structural and is not related to the player's condition. Limiting playing time does not eliminate the danger, it only reduces the amount of time spent exposed to that danger. Risk, on the other hand, is specific to each player and situation. Victor is at greater risk because of his physique, speed, and playing style (high-risk play near the basket). This risk will not change whether he plays a lot or a few minutes. At most, we can assume that the risk increases with fatigue.

Either he is fit after a twist and plays without restriction, or he is not and is allowed to recover without playing. Individual risk is only affected in the event of muscle injury, scarring, and poor cardio.

You're driving down the road, you hit a sign, and your rearview mirror gets damaged. Either you replace it because it's broken, or you put it back in place. But limiting your time on the road will not affect the risk of you hitting another sign. Your rearview mirror is not “at risk” and is not subject to greater danger because it was hit. Unless there are seasons when wild signs cross the roads...

Once recovered, Victor is subject to the same dangers as anyone else, and he is subject to specific risks related to his body and his playing style. Playing time does not impact this risk.

But it's not all about science. Sometimes it's insurance companies that require extra precautions. Because insurance companies often don't care about science or logic. If you have two accidents in the same month, they won't cut you any slack and will increase your premiums if your arguments don't convince them.

So either the Spurs have a medical staff that doesn't follow science (it's possible, there are practitioners who do crazy things like osteopathy or cupping, practices that are popular in France, and a well-known French physical therapist works with NBA players for instance), or it's capitalism (through insurance companies) that's to blame.

I lost a game once because of insurance. Yes, sir. I'm not the one to blame.
 
If Jeremy gives you 5 good minutes in the 3rd, it’s not a sign that he’s going to just be awesome for the rest of the game and you should just roll with him.

Take the good minutes, pat him on the head and put grown ups in when the stakes get real. Thinking there’s some kind of momentum going on that will somehow fix his jumper in crunch time is silly. He’s 100% unplayable in final possessions. We already know this. We’ve had multiple games where the other team dares us to have him take the big shot. And then we give them exactly what they ask for. Super.
 
The most embarrassing loss of the season, and not only because it was against the crippled Grizzlies.

2 timeouts left, down by 1, off of 2 missed MEM FTs, 14 seconds left, with Jeremy on the court. Take the timeout, sub in a shooter or even 2 with Luke off, and draw up a play on our end of the court. If it fails, foul, timeout, and try again for at WORST a game-tying 3. Instead we just run it. Fox gets clobbered because MEM knows he’s taking the shot. Atrocious decision by Mitch.

To be clear, I thought Jeremy played great. Mitch failed him and the team.

We played down to the competition and didn’t take them seriously, across the board.

More embarrassments include:

Castle recklessly collecting fouls, single-handedly trying to steal his way to a W. Instead gave them the W with 6 fouls, 5 TOs, and 5/14 shooting. Is no one on the coaching staff sitting him down in film sessions and telling him he is 1000% gifted enough to play at-home D and still wreck shop? He doesn’t need to be so recklessly aggressive to leverage his skill set and majorly impact winning.

Mitch managing Vic’s minutes to where he has to sit the final 3 min of the game. That can easily be planned ahead of time…was that the plan??

Not taking advantage of the waterfall of MEM TOs in the first half, at all. Fox taking too many tough 3s when we’re already on a team brickfest outside of Vic and Champ. Drive to the basket.

It wasn’t all bad, in fact a lot of good (Vic, Champ, KJ, Sochan, McLaughlin). But some truly embarrassing errors last night.
 
Another embarassing loss. Is the plan that Vic also plays against the Lakers? then rather let him finish the game, get the W and sit him tonight.
Also I wish the guys would stop shooting threes when it is clear they are not falling.
I can continue to hate on Castle because ... well he sucks.
 
All the Players Get a C.
Why?
They battled back in a “who cares” game against a “who cares” opponent. Wemby gets an A because, while literally being shackled by the outdated TOSB medical philosophy of the apparently all-powerful Spurs voodoo doctors, he still managed to score 30 points in just 21 minutes.

Mitch Gets an F.
Why
- A solid 9-man rotation was established without Wemby.
- The team performed better with this nine-man rotation, excluding Sochan and Carter Bryant.
- Coaches dream of even 8-man rotations,
- This rotation was highly effective, defeating OKC, who have now lost 5 of their last 10 games, 3 to this team. ESPECIALLY WITH WEMBY
- Despite success, THIS DOWNSY BABBY abandon the rotation.
- Then Blames FAILURE on the team with Statements such as “We aren’t following the process”
- Coaches without playing experience at the highest level may lack a feel for game rhythm and flow. AKA SIMULATOR COACHES like MITCH and POP
- Ask yourself, how many of these Coaches on THIS Asshole's staff have played IN THE SHOW?

Despite some huge red flags last year during his emergency tour of duty when Pop almost died, which led to Pop’s retirement, I came in with the mindset to wipe the slate clean and give this Mitch guy a chance.
By design or happenstance, the Spurs found a solid team chemistry with an 8-9 man rotation. Then this coach decides to pull the ultimate move and start messing with the formula. It’s like when Coke came out with New Coke, only worse. If he manages to mess things up against the Lakers by making the inexplicable decision not to put the guy who scored 31 points in 21 minutes back in the game with one minute left, he has to go. He won’t, but we’ll just be fooling ourselves with massive levels of autsim to avoid reaching that conclusion.

I mean, Wemby can Do THIS before the game but this guy wouldn't put him back in with 1 minute left to preserve a win.
"MAKE IT MAKE SENSE". You can't.

From Crusty with LOVE
 
24/76 from 3 the last 2 games. If we can't turn that around in the league today this team is going nowhere.. I am waiting for them to get HOT from the 3.. Still waiting..
 
Limguoguolo said:
So either the Spurs have a medical staff that doesn't follow science (it's possible, there are practitioners who do crazy things like osteopathy or cupping, practices that are popular in France, and a well-known French physical therapist works with NBA players for instance), or it's capitalism (through insurance companies) that's to blame.

I lost a game once because of insurance. Yes, sir. I'm not the one to blame.
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You know when a random thought leads you to a wildly improbable conclusion, and you kinda go "huh, that can't be right" and move on from it? This should've been one of those times.

If your conclusions are that either the high-end medical professionals don't follow or know their field's "science", or that dark and mysterious external forces are shadow-puppetting things around, maybe it's time to take a step back and re-assess, tbh.

A basic Occam's Razor would tell you that the medical team being privy to detailed and sensitive information not known by the public is the better guess. But that's not nearly as fun to muse about, is it? :st-wink:
 
CrustyCoastBendFan said:
I mean, Wemby can Do THIS before the game but this guy wouldn't put him back in with 1 minute left to preserve a win.
"MAKE IT MAKE SENSE". You can't.

From Crusty with LOVE
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Why couldn't you? It's easy - the medical team has provided an assessment to the coaching staff, who holds the belief that regular season wins are not as important as their franchise player's long-term health and injury prevention. Therefore they strictly adhere to minutes restrictions at the cost of winnable end-of-game scenarios.

You can disagree with their assessment, but you can perfectly "make it make sense". It only takes a perspective other than your fanatic (and understandable) one.

Also, jumping on one knee for a kick is not nearly as strain-inducing as you're painting it with the video, it's lateral forces he needs to be wary about, FWIW.
 
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