NBA 2025-26 NBA Thread

[OK Computer]

It’s a pretty decent deal if we can get him for Devin, sochan, 14 (Carter) and maybe one more pick, them sign him for 2/$90, but I don’t think PHX will take that deal over the one th ey got from HOU. I felt the suns have always wanted to have a scorer and shot creator in their lineup next to booker, and Jalen green is better at that than Devin.

Also, I’ve never been a huge fan of what Durant brings to the spurs. I want wemby to be that big shot creator, and having Durant would lead to a lineup of fox, wemby and Durant, all three requiring the ball to be their most effective. It’s a problem we are thinking of with Harper and castle now, so imagine adding Durant to that recipe.

I’m not overly upset about it and felt the spurs are better off getting high level role players like the kornhubs of the world. Not in terms of skill set but in terms of the role and ability to work in a team environment without demanding the ball or shots.

The Spurs have enough shot creation now so it’s the other little role player things that should be improved upon. Also, we can create good shots but whether they go in is another matter.

Kornhubs, Champagnies

Keldon might secure that perfect role player title soon, too.

If Champagnie and KJ are for real, the Spurs have done a heck of a job finding complementary role player level talent around their core. It’s a huge plus that they get along too.

 

[BacktoBasics]

Seems like Durant is a malcontent everywhere he goes. He’s constantly unhappy and bitchy.

I wanted no part of him back then and no part of him now regardless of that extension. Which I also don’t want.

 

[Shmurs]

I don’t see much of a throughline between “enforcement” and winning. These guys don’t actually deter anything. Guys are still messing with curry after all these years of a Draymond nut punch hanging over their heads.

the purpose of the role is pride and energy. You want to use them to take control of the narrative of the game when the ball and hoop aren’t cooperating.

Jeremy could do that in theory. We haven’t seen it because there’s a general lack of intensity from opposition against a tanking team. But once wins start to become expected I could picture him being wielded as some kind of weapon.

…just not during crunch time the other 30 minutes a night when he should be on the bench.

 

[Sugus]

I always wondered how would fans rate Sochan if not for his Rodman cosplay. If he looked like your average NBA player.
He'd be just another Stanley Johnson, tbh.

I don’t see much of a throughline between “enforcement” and winning. These guys don’t actually deter anything. Guys are still messing with curry after all these years of a Draymond nut punch hanging over their heads.

the purpose of the role is pride and energy. You want to use them to take control of the narrative of the game when the ball and hoop aren’t cooperating.

Jeremy could do that in theory. We haven’t seen it because there’s a general lack of intensity from opposition against a tanking team. But once wins start to become expected I could picture him being wielded as some kind of weapon.

…just not during crunch time the other 30 minutes a night when he should be on the bench.

The two posts are answered by each other: fans would still rate Sochan highly without his "Rodman cosplay" because of his perceived enforcer attitude... And we have already seen that attitude from Sochan, despite the Spurs tanking, with his Judo takedown of the Morris brother (iirc?) during a game:

Whether he can consistently live up to the "modern enforcer" role is a topic of debate, but he's unarguably played the part already.

 

[spurraider21]

It’s a pretty decent deal if we can get him for Devin, sochan, 14 (Carter) and maybe one more pick, them sign him for 2/$90, but I don’t think PHX will take that deal over the one th ey got from HOU. I felt the suns have always wanted to have a scorer and shot creator in their lineup next to booker, and Jalen green is better at that than Devin.

Also, I’ve never been a huge fan of what Durant brings to the spurs. I want wemby to be that big shot creator, and having Durant would lead to a lineup of fox, wemby and Durant, all three requiring the ball to be their most effective. It’s a problem we are thinking of with Harper and castle now, so imagine adding Durant to that recipe.

I’m not overly upset about it and felt the spurs are better off getting high level role players like the kornhubs of the world. Not in terms of skill set but in terms of the role and ability to work in a team environment without demanding the ball or shots.

The Spurs have enough shot creation now so it’s the other little role player things that should be improved upon. Also, we can create good shots but whether they go in is another matter.

Durant thrived in golden state. Nets were dominant when Durant kyrie and harden were all playing together. Durant was great on OKC alongside ball dominant guys.

He can thrive in any scenario tbh

 

[ace3g]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1980001002502934806

 

[mudyez]

I actually liked Zach for being a tough guy. Him at the same time looking like the pretty face QB jock in a Scream movie, made it just better.

As of now, Sochan and Olynyk probably are the closest thing to being an enforcer...and I'm not sure, we need a James Johnson type, if the whole core brings some toughness with it.

 

[LeBowen]

I actually liked Zach for being a tough guy. Him at the same time looking like the pretty face QB jock in a Scream movie, made it just better.

As of now, Sochan and Olynyk probably are the closest thing to being an enforcer...and I'm not sure, we need a James Johnson type, if the whole core brings some toughness with it.

Collins wasn't a tough guy, he was just a dirty fucker who often retaliated because his opponents kept shitting on him.
I don't like the Olynyk signing because he's a well-known dirty player and the last thing we want is someone retaliating on Wemby because one of our dirty players injured someone.

Tough guy era is over, modern NBA doesn't tolerate anything and enforers are just washed up third stringers that come in to injure someone. Any malicious plays is a flagrant these days, not worth the trouble.

 

[koriwhat]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1979641149737562239

Damn, too bad considering he's a big with a 3. I'd rather him than Biyombo but it might just be my rose colored glasses because I've never seen Potter outside of our preseason games.

 

[ace3g]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1980033841239556493

 

[LeBowen]

Better defender than Jeremy and shot 37.5% from 3pt on 4.6 attempts.

 

[ace3g]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1980046625171988959

 

[Ariel]

Better defender than Jeremy and shot 37.5% from 3pt on 4.6 attempts.

twice the player Jeremy is ATM. Offer him 4 years 40 at most, last year team option. Descending. That's the limit for me, otherwise go to RFA.

 

[Shmurs]

I actually liked Zach for being a tough guy. Him at the same time looking like the pretty face QB jock in a Scream movie, made it just better.

As of now, Sochan and Olynyk probably are the closest thing to being an enforcer...and I'm not sure, we need a James Johnson type, if the whole core brings some toughness with it.

There are zero people in the league afraid of James Johnson even though he could kill them with his bare hands. When he does his “I’m gonna *%!# you up” thing, I wonder if anyone even in the moment gives a shit. What’s the premise - that he’s going to walk up to someone and punch them in the face or put them in some choke hold? When has that ever happened when a bench player jumps a real player? Ever, even once?

Olynyk is honestly one of the best enforcers in the league because he’s big and dirty. Guys like Lou Dort are also effective because they’re dirty but in a quiet way. Mathurin is good because he’s also a little dirty and annoys the shit out of people and can also do damage on the scoreboard.

I think Sochan’s issue is that he’s not good enough for people to take seriously and he’s not particularly strong or imposing. He’s just a bench guy who is harassing better players. It’s not nothing but it has limitations.

 

[drpill]

I don't like the Olynyk signing because he's a well-known dirty player and the last thing we want is someone retaliating on Wemby because one of our dirty players injured someone.

Tough guy era is over, modern NBA doesn't tolerate anything and enforers are just washed up third stringers that come in to injure someone. Any malicious plays is a flagrant these days, not worth the trouble.

Interesting point about Olynyk, I never imagined that happening, I'd hate to see it. Sochan is also pretty unlikeable. I don't mind that being a part of the team's identity to some extent but nobody better touch Wemby.

 

[spurraider21]

Solid deals by Portland. Sharpe could end up a complete steal

 

[k....]

Solid deals by Portland. Sharpe could end up a complete steal

we found rascal on the new site

 

[spurraider21]

we found rascal on the new site

It was honestly really annoying that during this draft cycle i found myself agreeing with rascal quite a bit

 

[ambchang]

Durant thrived in golden state. Nets were dominant when Durant kyrie and harden were all playing together. Durant was great on OKC alongside ball dominant guys.

He can thrive in any scenario tbh

Should’ve clarified, Durant will get his, I’m not sure if he will create extra or getting his by taking from others.

 

[ace3g]

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[ambchang]

I have some reservations about the sharpe deal. I’ve always viewed him as a Jalen green type of player.

 

[spurraider21]

I have some reservations about the sharpe deal. I’ve always viewed him as a Jalen green type of player.

when Jalen Green signed his extension, he was earning 21.7% of the cap

when Devin Vassell signed his extension, he was earning 20.9% of the cap

when Keldon Johnson signed his extension, he was earning 14.7% of the cap

when Shaedon Sharpe signed his extension, he will be earning about 12.1% of the cap

 

[wemvp]

Interesting point about Olynyk, I never imagined that happening, I'd hate to see it. Sochan is also pretty unlikeable. I don't mind that being a part of the team's identity to some extent but nobody better touch Wemby.

Collins wasn't a tough guy, he was just a dirty fucker who often retaliated because his opponents kept shitting on him.
I don't like the Olynyk signing because he's a well-known dirty player and the last thing we want is someone retaliating on Wemby because one of our dirty players injured someone.

Tough guy era is over, modern NBA doesn't tolerate anything and enforers are just washed up third stringers that come in to injure someone. Any malicious plays is a flagrant these days, not worth the trouble.

I seriously doubt any player wants to deal with the fallout of being the guy who cheap shot injured the biggest draw in the league. That's a reputation you dont want, and especially if you're some bench player just wanting to hang in the league as long as possible.

 

[ambchang]

when Jalen Green signed his extension, he was earning 21.7% of the cap

when Devin Vassell signed his extension, he was earning 20.9% of the cap

when Keldon Johnson signed his extension, he was earning 14.7% of the cap

when Shaedon Sharpe signed his extension, he will be earning about 12.1% of the cap

Fair point, although we all would agree green and Vassell are both terrible contracts. Keldon is a slightly overpaid one. Sharpe we will see, you are probably right it could be a steal when you put it this way.

 

[Exstatic]

Didn't realize DJG can do that. Sochan, I thought is more annoying than anything enforcer wise, but, the Spurs haven't been a winning team before so maybe he can fill that role? I've never thought of him as an enforcer, though. He always seemed more talk to me than someone that'd take action if pushed to that point.

He’s not an enforcer, he’s a provocateur. I remember in his rookie season we were playing the Mavs, and during a time out as the teams were crossing to their benches, he reached out and tweaked Luka’s nipple.