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I’m pretty sure every team he has played on has said he doesn’t really care about basketball. There’s no reason for him to be this bad a player other than the fact that he got paid his millions and just checked out.
To be fair, he was always upfront about what he cares:
The forecasts seemingly all project Deandre Ayton to develop into an NBA star.

But the 7-foot-1 center who could go No. 1 overall in Thursday's draft isn't getting too far ahead of himself.

His definition of NBA success is not having his rookie contract be his last.

"Definitely getting to my second contract -- that's my success," Ayton told reporters Wednesday during a media availability session in New York.
 
Just your reminder that when the Spurs picked Nunez in the 24 draft 2nd round, Ajay Mitchell and Jaylen Wells were both available still
and it was one pick after we traded the Furphy pick. also dealt away #33 pick in 2023 only to take Cissoko who wasn't 2-way ineligible later in the round

tre jones was a resounding success as a second round pick in 2020, but prior to that, our last good second rounder was DeJuan Blair in 2009

lately its just felt like MATFO dont treat second rounders as a legitimate path to improve the team
 
and it was one pick after we traded the Furphy pick. also dealt away #33 pick in 2023 only to take Cissoko who wasn't 2-way ineligible later in the round

tre jones was a resounding success as a second round pick in 2020, but prior to that, our last good second rounder was DeJuan Blair in 2009

lately its just felt like MATFO dont treat second rounders as a legitimate path to improve the team
Resounding success for Tre sounds like a stretch, yes he was better than you'd expect out of a player drafted at his position, but also you can get players like that in free agency or by trading a pick like the one used on him, so I'd reserve that tag for players you need real assets to get. I haven't taken the time to do this research, but I'd say this side of Manu Spurs may be among the worst 2nd round drafting teams in the league by quite a bit.
 
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Resounding success for Tre sounds like a stretch, yes he was better than you'd expect out of a player drafted at his position, but also you can get players like that in free agency or trading for a pick like the one you used on him, so I'd reserve that tag for players you need real assets to get. I haven't taken the time to do this, but I'd say this side of Manu Spurs may be among the worst 2nd round drafting teams in the league by quite a bit.
i mean of course there are Jokic/Manu ridiculous 2nd round outcomes, but nah, a SRP becoming an actual rotation player by year 2, signing a second contract with the team, and starting in nearly half of his games here, thats a very successful outcome for a SRP. most of them hang around for 1-2 years then vanish. Wieskamp, Cissoko, Ingram, Quindarry, Metu, Blossomgame, Lalanne, etc

i guess there are levels to it, guys like Nembhard clearly better outcomes than Tre, so maybe "resounding success" should be saved for guys like that. buy anywhere outside the lottery, Tre's outcome would be considered solid to good. for a mid-second rounder though, he outdid any expectations imo
 
It was honestly really annoying that during this draft cycle i found myself agreeing with rascal quite a bit
rascal has been on point on the draft for years. He wanted Castle badly back when Topic and Cody Williams were looking like top 3 picks in late 2023 for example.
 
i mean of course there are Jokic/Manu ridiculous 2nd round outcomes, but nah, a SRP becoming an actual rotation player by year 2, signing a second contract with the team, and starting in nearly half of his games here, thats a very successful outcome for a SRP. most of them hang around for 1-2 years then vanish. Wieskamp, Cissoko, Ingram, Quindarry, Metu, Blossomgame, Lalanne, etc
That's only one way of using that pick, the others would be trading it for a vet or just roll it over. If you think trading a similar pick for a player who'd give you similar production for a few years is a resounding success, then yes you can say that. I think that's a bit of a stretch, and you're going to see a few 2nd rounders better (or more valuable) than Tre in just about every class. And I don't mean Jokic, Manu, Brunson, Middleton, Draymond Green, etc. Plenty of role players on championship teams were 2nd rounders or undrafted, all way better than Tre, just look at OKC's roster... If Tre is a resounding success, you'll run out of words to describe those.
 
rascal has been on point on the draft for years. He wanted Castle badly back when Topic and Cody Williams were looking like top 3 picks in late 2023 for example.
Yeah, he was in way earlier than I was, most of us came around after the NCAA tournament and the combine where he measured like a wing, up to that point I probably would have gone Risacher or Buzelis at 4 (whoever was available) and lots of people wanted Sheppard there.
 
rascal has been on point on the draft for years. He wanted Castle badly back when Topic and Cody Williams were looking like top 3 picks in late 2023 for example.
anyone pushing for cody williams with the 3rd pick clearly wasn't watching him play.
 
btw, sheppard was getting cooked on the defensive side of the ball; he's gonna get devoured by bigger guards.
 
btw, sheppard was getting cooked on the defensive side of the ball; he's gonna get devoured by bigger guards.
Sheppard's defense was always overrated, he's smart with good hands and gambles a lot, so he'll rack up counting stats, but got cooked routinely in college as well, also had trouble creating space and getting his shot off, and I got dumped on for doubting how he'd translate and saying that it looked like he was optimizing for counting stats.
 
btw, sheppard was getting cooked on the defensive side of the ball; he's gonna get devoured by bigger guards.
I think we should judge every young player's career by his first game in the rotation. Definitely crow about how right our predictions were when confirmed by a single game against the defending NBA champs.
 
I think we should judge every young player's career by his first game in the rotation. Definitely crow about how right our predictions were when confirmed by a single game against the defending NBA champs.
he did get cooked. that's a fact. he will get cooked on defense consistently. that's a pretty likely forecast.
 
Conley is old and has been steadily declining, but just another sign minnesota may be primed to take a step back this year after losing NAW in free agency as well. they are optimistic terrance shannon can step into a bigger role, but he's more of a pure scorer and not as good a defender as NAW. dillingham may play more as well, but conley had been a mistake free player and capable defender.

 
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dillingham is going to create the same problem that sheppard will with houston. how to you manage the need to get a scorer on the court but make up for that guard'd defensive weaknesses? there are going to be some gargantuan lineups in the west.
 
I like the return of the LOB trophy icon on center court of the finals. Need something to set those games apart from everything else. Makes it special
 
he did get cooked. that's a fact. he will get cooked on defense consistently. that's a pretty likely forecast.
Well your sample size can't be beat. What a loss for NBA teams that they are missing out on you as a scout.
 
Dom Barlow starting for PHI opening night
 
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This year there's a big opportunity ahead for Barlow in Philly given their roster construction and health issues, hope he capitalizes on it.
 
TOR pushing ATL's shit in. Cam Boozer here we come!
 
Nah man this the Dybantsa train
You know what will really happen is we'll luck into the #1 pick and Peterson will separate himself as the clearcut #1 and we'll "have" to take him... because point guards.
 
You know what will really happen is we'll luck into the #1 pick and Peterson will separate himself as the clearcut #1 and we'll "have" to take him... because point guards.
I like the way you think man
 
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