Trade Spurs Trade Ideas

scott said:
At what point do we think MEM would be willing to listen to offers on Aldama? I still contend he is the budget Lauri we need... and he's in the first year of a declining 3/52.

He's eligible to be traded starting 1/15.
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I expect them to start considering blowing it up. An expiring and Atlanta 2027 might get it done.
 
That's why I believe a TM3 trade would need to ship Vassell. TM would take his spot (and usage number) and give the line ups more flexibility, because he can take some PF minutes (what DV can't). TM is the more efficient player, especially on lower usage. And I think he is the better defender overall.
 
LeBowen said:
What's your take on Sharpe? His numbers always look good and I think he'd be the Olynyk/Biyombo upgrade we need.

I'd consider a Olynyk (or Sochan) for Clowney/Sharpe trade with us adding that '27 ATL pick because they'll probably get AD and make the playoffs next season with him and the pick they'll get from Pelicans, the East is too weak.
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Dont see any way POR gives up Sharpe and we dont really need him anyways with our guard combos
 
DPGSpurs said:
Dont see any way POR gives up Sharpe and we dont really need him anyways with our guard combos
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Wrong Sharpe.
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I'm talking about this guy as a third string big upgrade since Wemby is unavailable so often.
I don't really watch the Nets, I assume you have more insight since you mad an in-depth post about Clowney.

Basically giving up a FRP for Clowney or Sharpe is too much, but if we can get both, then it might be worth it.
 
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Vienna said:
I think he is under contract till 2029. But beside this, do you see Rockets trade a player to the Spurs?
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He is indeed under contract until 2029 but the last two years of his contract are non-guaranteed.

It's sure Rockets rather trade him to another team but it's only a so-so role player so it could happen under the right circumstances.
 
Bruno said:
He is indeed under contract until 2029 but the last two years of his contract are non-guaranteed.

It's sure Rockets rather trade him to another team but it's only a so-so role player so it could happen under the right circumstances.
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I see. I only saw his PO for 28/29. I didn't even know it's possible to get a player option on a non guaranteed contract. sounds somehow strange.
I think Rockets will try to reduce the tax bill in the first place, so yes, a move that helps in this regard they will do, even if involving the Spurs. (might take a 3rd team, if they don't want to take any salary back)
 
I understand Mo Wagner will be back soon. talk was it might happen within the next week.
so, what will the Magic do, when they find out Wagner is his old self? in this case they are somehow overloaded at C.
(Carter, Bitadze, Wagner, Isaac, Robinson, with Banchero playing some Center minutes as well)
Isaac contract is complicated, they can only play him 19 more games, or his next year contract get's guaranteed. will be difficult to move him, I think they will just cut him, considering they are deep in Lux territory next season.

I would look at Bitadze. they might do Sochan for him, might even add some future compensation.

or, in a bigger picture: what would it take to get Da Silva from them? help them with Isaac? give them Sochan and Picks?
 
Vienna said:
That's why I believe a TM3 trade would need to ship Vassell. TM would take his spot (and usage number) and give the line ups more flexibility, because he can take some PF minutes (what DV can't). TM is the more efficient player, especially on lower usage. And I think he is the better defender overall.
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you also think there are no minutes for a 10th player in the rotation. Maybe you should stop thinking so much, since it doesn't lead to anything logical
Vienna said:
I understand Mo Wagner will be back soon. talk was it might happen within the next week.
so, what will the Magic do, when they find out Wagner is his old self? in this case they are somehow overloaded at C.
(Carter, Bitadze, Wagner, Isaac, Robinson, with Banchero playing some Center minutes as well)
Isaac contract is complicated, they can only play him 19 more games, or his next year contract get's guaranteed. will be difficult to move him, I think they will just cut him, considering they are deep in Lux territory next season.

I would look at Bitadze. they might do Sochan for him, might even add some future compensation.

or, in a bigger picture: what would it take to get Da Silva from them? help them with Isaac? give them Sochan and Picks?
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Why would you trade for him? According to you, there are no minutes for him on this roster :st-lol:
 
RC_Drunkford said:
you also think there are no minutes for a 10th player in the rotation. Maybe you should stop thinking so much, since it doesn't lead to anything logical

Why would you trade for him? According to you, there are no minutes for him on this roster :st-lol:
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what's wrong with you?
 
Vienna said:
I understand Mo Wagner will be back soon. talk was it might happen within the next week.
so, what will the Magic do, when they find out Wagner is his old self? in this case they are somehow overloaded at C.
(Carter, Bitadze, Wagner, Isaac, Robinson, with Banchero playing some Center minutes as well)
Isaac contract is complicated, they can only play him 19 more games, or his next year contract get's guaranteed. will be difficult to move him, I think they will just cut him, considering they are deep in Lux territory next season.

I would look at Bitadze. they might do Sochan for him, might even add some future compensation.

or, in a bigger picture: what would it take to get Da Silva from them? help them with Isaac? give them Sochan and Picks?
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Mr Genius. Could you break down the split of your say 265 minutes you got by getting a rotation player for a non rotation player please?
minutes you need für your guy Isaac you take from who? Barnes? Champ? Keldon? congratulation, you just traded minutes to a less efficient player, who doesn't add any quality you didn't have yet. Great Plan Genius.
 
RC_Drunkford said:
nah what's wrong with you? where are the minutes for Isaac coming from on this roster?
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Jesus. Isaac get's cut. read-think-write. not the other way around.
8M guaranteed money would add a lot more to Magic's next year's tax bill.
a team that helps them avoid this, will ask for a significant return.
da Silva would be the price. it's not that hard to understand, isn't it.

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I see, in general, there are a lot of ideas and desire for players who can generate offence and rebound at the four. The usual suspects like Lauri, MPJ, TMIII, Jollins, and the such. What I think the Spurs should be looking for are finishers and the guys who can do the little things, especially setting solid screens.

So I looked up the best catch and shoot players (Vassell is 5th in the league amongst forwards in points of catch and shoot) and screen setters in the NBA who are forwards and put them in 3 groups - too expensive, no way we can get them in a trade, and gettable ones:

Catch and Shoot:
1) Too expensive - MPJ, Lauri, Jerami Grant, TMIII, Paul George, Anunoby
2) No way we can get him in a trade - Knueppel, Aaron Nesmith, Brandon Miller, Mikal Bridges, Camara, Okongwu, Porzingis, Barrett, Miles Bridges (wife beater),
3) Gettable - Myles Turner (but his rebounding is bad), Naz Reid, Royce O'Neale, Tim Hardaway Jr., Jabari Smith Jr, Bobby Portis (he is crazy), Duncan Robinson, Tari Eason, Noah Clowney, Jaylon Tyson, Hauser, Rui.

Screeners (Kornet is #2)
1) Too expensive - Sabonis, Embiid, Unibrow, Donkey, KAT,
2) No way we can get him in a trade - Hartenstein, Mitch Robinson, Okongwu, Looney,
3) Gettable - Marvin Bagley III, Wendell Carter Jr, Ighodaro, Oscar Tshiebwe, Dwight Powell, Gafford, Isaiah Jackson, Zollins (!!!!), Jaxson Hayes, Goga Bitadze, Myles Turner, Eubanks.

Just combining the two list:
  • Myles Turner is the only one who appears on both lists and can be gettable, but Turner is terrible on the boards and he seems to be always lost.
  • Okongwu appears in both lists but I don't see the Hawks trading him away.
  • Royce O'Neale is interesting but he is more of a wing
  • Always wanted JSJ, but I doubt Houston would deal with us, and his contract is on the rich side for me.
  • Duncan Robinson can shoot and really do very little else.
  • Tari Eason would be great, but again, Houston likely wont get rid of him.
  • Bagley could be our 3rd string center. He gets a bad rep because he was drafted ahead of Luka and is a bust by draft position, but he does a lot of good things. he rebounds, set decent screens. Got stone hands and his shooting ain't the greatest. His defence is passable and is a reasonable rim protector.
  • Ighodaro is absolutely dreadful on offence but he does a lot of dirty work. His defence is great, but his offence is equally bad
 
Vienna said:
Jesus. Isaac get's cut. read-think-write. not the other way around.
8M guaranteed money would add a lot more to Magic's next year's tax bill.
a team that helps them avoid this, will ask for a significant return.
da Silva would be the price. it's not that hard to understand, isn't it.

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you didn't answer the question. Where are the minutes for da Silva coming from?

What would da Silva give you that Champagnie doesn't already provide? He might even be shorter than JC, no matter what the listed numbers tell.
IMO Spurs don't need another 6'6" player, just because he is fake listed at 6'8 or 6'9 (like Sochan is).
 
We should follow the Peyton Watson situation closely.
13/5 on 51/40/74 this season, 3.2 3pta, also has a steal and a block, positive defender.
Since he got a bigger role because of all the injuries, he's been averaging 21ppg and 38% from 3pt on 5 attempts.

I don't think the Nuggets can pay him, he's on an expiring rookie deal.

They'll be at the first apron next summer with just 10 players on the roster, Watson will surely get around ~$15M per year.
 
LeBowen said:
We should follow the Peyton Watson situation closely.
13/5 on 51/40/74 this season, 3.2 3pta, also has a steal and a block, positive defender.
Since he got a bigger role because of all the injuries, he's been averaging 21ppg and 38% from 3pt on 5 attempts.

I don't think the Nuggets can pay him, he's on an expiring rookie deal.

They'll be at the first apron next summer with just 10 players on the roster, Watson will surely get around ~$15M per year.
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Seems like a guy ripe for a S&T as an RFA this summer?
 
Word is MPJ is messing up the tank in Brooklyn, so they want to swap him with Harris in Detroit. If we could get in the middle of that and send Jeremy to the nets it might solve our PF problem.
 
LeBowen said:
We should follow the Peyton Watson situation closely.
13/5 on 51/40/74 this season, 3.2 3pta, also has a steal and a block, positive defender.
Since he got a bigger role because of all the injuries, he's been averaging 21ppg and 38% from 3pt on 5 attempts.

I don't think the Nuggets can pay him, he's on an expiring rookie deal.

They'll be at the first apron next summer with just 10 players on the roster, Watson will surely get around ~$15M per year.
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Watson is going to get a big offer sheet this offseason tbh. That 15mil is low, I could easily see a team like the Lakers giving him 18-20mil tbh.
 
LeBowen said:
Wrong Sharpe.
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I'm talking about this guy as a third string big upgrade since Wemby is unavailable so often.
I don't really watch the Nets, I assume you have more insight since you mad an in-depth post about Clowney.

Basically giving up a FRP for Clowney or Sharpe is too much, but if we can get both, then it might be worth it.
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Ahhh - ok.
 
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