Trade Spurs Trade Ideas

[Ariel]

If Harper starts strong and Castle's shows no improvement, it may not be a bad time to consider what Spurs could get for him as his value is very high coming off a ROY campaign. I'm sure there would be better ideas but, fully aware I might catch some flak for this, some that popped off my head are:

1. To Charlotte for Brandon Miller: His value is probably a bit lower now that he's coming off an injury and he carries some stigma from his former legal issues, but he's a big wing with plenty of talent and shooting, who would fit in perfectly in this roster. If not for this, I'd argue he should be more valuable than Castle, but Charlotte has been aiming for character (Knueppel over Bailey, last year Salaun, etc) and have been linked to Castle in the past, perhaps this could be an opportunity to adjust the roster while acquiring youth and talent in return.
2. To Indiana for Jarace Walker + Aaron Nesmith. Jarace Walker is the kind of all around talent that would be out of reach if he puts it all together, this is his third season and he's been buried a bit in Indiana's depth (Siakam, Nesmith, etc). I have been saying for a while I would not be surprised if he takes a big leap, similar to what Jalen Johnson did. He's big and strong, he's got shooting and playmaking skills, I think he'd complement Wemby very well. Aaron Nesmith is the kind of complementary young vet that the Spurs need at the wing, this would give the Spurs a talented and young duo that fits better the current roster. Another variation of this scenario would include Sochan going to Indiana and a pick going back to the Spurs.

I know we're all attached to Castle, but if the Spurs can improve the fit while not losing on talent, they should consider it. Probably some might have an issue with the targets, but then again people at ST were also coming at me a couple of years ago when I was proposing to move for Deni Avdija, and a year ago when I was proposing to go after Trey Murphy when he was just coming back from injury. And I think both Brandon Miller and Jarace Walker could really pop this year.

 

[OK Computer]

Of the guys I’m hyped for, Castle is at the top of the list.

I don’t think people are ready. Folks think Fox will be Wemby’s Robin this upcoming season, but I think it will be Castle.

Trading him would be a monumental mistake. It would be like giving away Kobe or SGA after their first year. I think Castle has a seriousness to his craft that I have only seen in top 10 players.

 

[Ariel]

Of the guys I’m hyped for, Castle is at the top of the list.

I don’t think people are ready. Folks think Fox will be Wemby’s Robin this upcoming season, but I think it will be Castle.

Trading him would be a monumental mistake. It would be like giving away Kobe or SGA after their first year. I think Castle has a seriousness to his craft that I have only seen in top 10 players.

Perhaps. But I'm also quite worried if the shot doesn't come around and Spurs miss on the chance to put together a winning roster. For the record, I'm mostly spitballing, I definitely don't expect the Spurs to do anything (they don't even when they should, TBH).

 

[bozhemoi]

Of the guys I’m hyped for, Castle is at the top of the list.

I don’t think people are ready. Folks think Fox will be Wemby’s Robin this upcoming season, but I think it will be Castle.

Trading him would be a monumental mistake. It would be like giving away Kobe or SGA after their first year. I think Castle has a seriousness to his craft that I have only seen in top 10 players.

Yup. Castle is going to beast up this year. We already saw what a menace he can be off-ball last year and this year he'll pull even less attention.

 

[DTW]

If Harper starts strong and Castle's shows no improvement, it may not be a bad time to consider what Spurs could get for him as his value is very high coming off a ROY campaign. I'm sure there would be better ideas but, fully aware I might catch some flak for this, some that popped off my head are:

1. To Charlotte for Brandon Miller: His value is probably a bit lower now that he's coming off an injury and he carries some stigma from his former legal issues, but he's a big wing with plenty of talent and shooting, who would fit in perfectly in this roster. If not for this, I'd argue he should be more valuable than Castle, but Charlotte has been aiming for character (Knueppel over Bailey, last year Salaun, etc) and have been linked to Castle in the past, perhaps this could be an opportunity to adjust the roster while acquiring youth and talent in return.
2. To Indiana for Jarace Walker + Aaron Nesmith. Jarace Walker is the kind of all around talent that would be out of reach if he puts it all together, this is his third season and he's been buried a bit in Indiana's depth (Siakam, Nesmith, etc). I have been saying for a while I would not be surprised if he takes a big leap, similar to what Jalen Johnson did. He's big and strong, he's got shooting and playmaking skills, I think he'd complement Wemby very well. Aaron Nesmith is the kind of complementary young vet that the Spurs need at the wing, this would give the Spurs a talented and young duo that fits better the current roster. Another variation of this scenario would include Sochan going to Indiana and a pick going back to the Spurs.

I know we're all attached to Castle, but if the Spurs can improve the fit while not losing on talent, they should consider it. Probably some might have an issue with the targets, but then again people at ST were also coming at me a couple of years ago when I was proposing to move for Deni Avdija, and a year ago when I was proposing to go after Trey Murphy when he was just coming back from injury. And I think both Brandon Miller and Jarace Walker could really pop this year.

I like your thinking, but I'd guess Castle is the most likely of the three ball handlers to stay put long term because Fox and Harper are auditioning to be the offensive engine and although he seems to want to be too, he's probably more so a utility player.

If Harper looks ready to start by the trade deadline, a three team trade where the Heat get Fox, Spurs get Markkanen and Jazz get expiring contracts (they have Rozier, Powell, Fontecchio and maybe Wiggins depending on his player option) and picks from the Heat, could make sense.

Not sure if the Heat can make the finances work in the off season.

 

[LeBowen]

Perhaps. But I'm also quite worried if the shot doesn't come around and Spurs miss on the chance to put together a winning roster. For the record, I'm mostly spitballing, I definitely don't expect the Spurs to do anything (they don't even when they should, TBH).

If we're talking realistic scenarios, I think the only thing that could happen is getting another legit wing at the deadline if we're well over .500 and look like we could do damage in the playoffs.

Considering how Spurs do things, Wemby/Fox/Harper/Castle/Bryant/Kornet should be untouchable because with the Spurs it goes beyond basketball reasons. We're not trading away players on rookie contracts or player that recently joined with the presumption that they'll be important for the franchise. I'll add Champ in there because having him on just $3M this and the next season is ridiculous value and he's not worth much in a potential trade.

Vassell/Barnes/Keldon/Sochan/Olynyk are the players that could be available, depending on how they perform and how the season unfolds.

If we're on a ~50 wins pace (unlikely) at the deadline and friendship crew isn't doing well, I'd offer any combination of those players listed for Markkanen.
Cap situation would be fine for a couple more years, there would be enough time to worry about trading Fox or Markkanen away in two or three years.
If there's a chance to be a legit contdender while Wemby is on his rookie deal, we have to make the move. Again, unlikely, but if opportunity presents itself, there can be no hesitation.

 

[Shmurs]

I’m very very curious is Devin, Jeremy, Keldon, Atl 1st and a few 2nds could have landed Durant. Maybe, maybe not. But seeing how solid things are shaping out to be, plugging him in with a couple vets would have made this an extremely interesting couple years.

 

[Shmurs]

If Harper starts strong and Castle's shows no improvement, it may not be a bad time to consider what Spurs could get for him as his value is very high coming off a ROY campaign. I'm sure there would be better ideas but, fully aware I might catch some flak for this, some that popped off my head are:

1. To Charlotte for Brandon Miller: His value is probably a bit lower now that he's coming off an injury and he carries some stigma from his former legal issues, but he's a big wing with plenty of talent and shooting, who would fit in perfectly in this roster. If not for this, I'd argue he should be more valuable than Castle, but Charlotte has been aiming for character (Knueppel over Bailey, last year Salaun, etc) and have been linked to Castle in the past, perhaps this could be an opportunity to adjust the roster while acquiring youth and talent in return.
2. To Indiana for Jarace Walker + Aaron Nesmith. Jarace Walker is the kind of all around talent that would be out of reach if he puts it all together, this is his third season and he's been buried a bit in Indiana's depth (Siakam, Nesmith, etc). I have been saying for a while I would not be surprised if he takes a big leap, similar to what Jalen Johnson did. He's big and strong, he's got shooting and playmaking skills, I think he'd complement Wemby very well. Aaron Nesmith is the kind of complementary young vet that the Spurs need at the wing, this would give the Spurs a talented and young duo that fits better the current roster. Another variation of this scenario would include Sochan going to Indiana and a pick going back to the Spurs.

I know we're all attached to Castle, but if the Spurs can improve the fit while not losing on talent, they should consider it. Probably some might have an issue with the targets, but then again people at ST were also coming at me a couple of years ago when I was proposing to move for Deni Avdija, and a year ago when I was proposing to go after Trey Murphy when he was just coming back from injury. And I think both Brandon Miller and Jarace Walker could really pop this year.

The thing about this is that the guard spot is perfect at the moment. We have a capable 2nd unit now (and that doesn’t mean Tre jones playing with his food for 23 seconds). Harper could become a Manu-type. Castle could be a great complimentary piece to the starting unit. We’re in desperate need of long wings but I don’t think you give up an advantage with guard depth to make that happen.

especially since we have other things. I think it’s time to empty out the cache and use any pick that’s not ours, find a wing and package 1-3 amigos and get him. I don’t think we have enough to offer for Lauri unfortunately.

 

[RC_Drunkford]

You gotta be smoking rocks if you think about trading Castle. The Spurs are already hyped about Castle‘s improvements and it shows in practice. Don Harris said he put in so much work that he might be the 2nd best player on the team by the end of the year.

The real question is who‘s the starting PF we are targeting in a trade for a Barnes/Sochan/Olynyk combo. One of those 3 will stay, 2 will go. If Keldon and Devin keep playing like they did against Utah, they both ain‘t going nowhere either and we‘re set at the 3. We need a starting 4.

 

[Ariel]

You gotta be smoking rocks if you think about trading Castle. The Spurs are already hyped about Castle‘s improvements and it shows in practice. Don Harris said he put in so much work that he might be the 2nd best player on the team by the end of the year.

The real question is who‘s the starting PF we are targeting in a trade for a Barnes/Sochan/Olynyk combo. One of those 3 will stay, 2 will go. If Keldon and Devin keep playing like they did against Utah, they both ain‘t going nowhere either and we‘re set at the 3. We need a starting 4.

Maybe, but I always get a chuckle when people act shocked at the idea of parting with any player of worth, yet expect others to give up theirs for their leftovers.

I was mentioning Brandon Miller, former no. 2 pick who is a 6'9" wing with one of the most coveted skill sets in the league, Nesmith is a starting SF on a finals team and Jarace Walker was drafted 8th and showed very interesting flashes. Do you think Keldon Johnson, Sochan, Olynyk, Barnes gets you that talent level?

Again, I can totally understand preferring other targets or even standing pat, but if you want something of value you should be prepared to give up something of value. Sometimes I get the feeling people go shopping with glass beads in their pockets.

 

[Paramore]

cant find the general NBA thread, so lemme just post this here >>

 

[RC_Drunkford]

Maybe, but I always get a chuckle when people act shocked at the idea of parting with any player of worth, yet expect others to give up theirs for their leftovers.

I was mentioning Brandon Miller, former no. 2 pick who is a 6'9" wing with one of the most coveted skill sets in the league, Nesmith is a starting SF on a finals team and Jarace Walker was drafted 8th and showed very interesting flashes. Do you think Keldon Johnson, Sochan, Olynyk, Barnes gets you that talent level?

Again, I can totally understand preferring other targets or even standing pat, but if you want something of value you should be prepared to give up something of value. Sometimes I get the feeling people go shopping with glass beads in their pockets.

That‘s why you give up draft picks. We can easily afford to give up another 2-3 future firsts.

Spurs are not gonna trade Castle for a 3 who was involved in a murder case. We don’t even need a star at the 4, just a good 3-and-D player

 

[ambchang]

Ja-ba-ri! Ja-ba-ri! Ja-ba-ri! Ja-ba-ri!

 

[spurraider21]

Maybe, but I always get a chuckle when people act shocked at the idea of parting with any player of worth, yet expect others to give up theirs for their leftovers.

I was mentioning Brandon Miller, former no. 2 pick who is a 6'9" wing with one of the most coveted skill sets in the league, Nesmith is a starting SF on a finals team and Jarace Walker was drafted 8th and showed very interesting flashes. Do you think Keldon Johnson, Sochan, Olynyk, Barnes gets you that talent level?

Again, I can totally understand preferring other targets or even standing pat, but if you want something of value you should be prepared to give up something of value. Sometimes I get the feeling people go shopping with glass beads in their pockets.

Giving 3 trash instead of 2 trash isn’t really improving the offer. You’re not getting Miller without picks

 

[CGD]

cant find the general NBA thread, so lemme just post this here >>

That pass to sharp was world class.

 

[CGD]

So much of this discussion turns on the shot improvement of Castle and Sochan. Not saying they need to be 40% from 3, but if they can't hold the other team honest on that side the Spurs need other solutions next to Wembs. I like Harrison Barnes, but I think this may be the year he starts to slow down (at least enough to justify being the undisputed SF starter), and while Bryant shows a lot of promise hes a ways off.

 

[Vienna]

If Harper starts strong and Castle's shows no improvement, it may not be a bad time to consider what Spurs could get for him as his value is very high coming off a ROY campaign. I'm sure there would be better ideas but, fully aware I might catch some flak for this, some that popped off my head are:

1. To Charlotte for Brandon Miller: His value is probably a bit lower now that he's coming off an injury and he carries some stigma from his former legal issues, but he's a big wing with plenty of talent and shooting, who would fit in perfectly in this roster. If not for this, I'd argue he should be more valuable than Castle, but Charlotte has been aiming for character (Knueppel over Bailey, last year Salaun, etc) and have been linked to Castle in the past, perhaps this could be an opportunity to adjust the roster while acquiring youth and talent in return.
2. To Indiana for Jarace Walker + Aaron Nesmith. Jarace Walker is the kind of all around talent that would be out of reach if he puts it all together, this is his third season and he's been buried a bit in Indiana's depth (Siakam, Nesmith, etc). I have been saying for a while I would not be surprised if he takes a big leap, similar to what Jalen Johnson did. He's big and strong, he's got shooting and playmaking skills, I think he'd complement Wemby very well. Aaron Nesmith is the kind of complementary young vet that the Spurs need at the wing, this would give the Spurs a talented and young duo that fits better the current roster. Another variation of this scenario would include Sochan going to Indiana and a pick going back to the Spurs.

I know we're all attached to Castle, but if the Spurs can improve the fit while not losing on talent, they should consider it. Probably some might have an issue with the targets, but then again people at ST were also coming at me a couple of years ago when I was proposing to move for Deni Avdija, and a year ago when I was proposing to go after Trey Murphy when he was just coming back from injury. And I think both Brandon Miller and Jarace Walker could really pop this year.

Jarace Walker is an interesting idea. Pacers will ask for a FRP, considering their needs there isn't a player from the Spurs they might want. (not named Castle or Harper). maybe a 3rd team that can send a young center their way.

 

[pookenstein]

I'm getting drawn back to a possible Lauri deal. Not necessarily because of Lauri himself, although I think he'd be a perfect fit at PF, but also because a potential trade would open up additional minutes for Castle, Harper and Champagnie. I really like the way Champagnie looked last season and so far in preseason and I'd also be ok with Waters geeting deep bench minutes.

Something like Vassell, Barnes the 2026 pick with Atl (maybe lottery protected) and their own second round pick for Lauri would work on the trade machine. Would that be enough for Utha to do it? They'd safe around 20M in salary after this season when Barnes contract ends.

Vassell, KJ and Sochan plus the Utha 2026 second rounder for Lauri would work as well.

Fox/Castle/Champagnie/Markkanen/Wemby starting with Harper, KJ, Sochan (or Barnes) and Kornet getting the majority bench minutes. This would also open up more playing time for Bryant.

Personally I wouldn't be against (slightly) overpaying Utha for getting a deal like this done. I'm realy high on Champagnie...

 

[Shmurs]

It would take all 3 amigos plus at least 1 first and multiple 2nds.

And that’s only if they’d take amigo currency. It’s more likely they hang up if no castle.

 

[pookenstein]

It would take all 3 amigos plus at least 1 first and multiple 2nds.

And that’s only if they’d take amigo currency. It’s more likely they hang up if no castle.

Hard no on Castle, but I'd be ok with Devin, Jeremy, Keldon a first and a couple of seconds.

 

[scott]

Spurs just simply can’t afford Lauri. That would be 2 max guys with Wemby set to sign a rookie super max next summer. It just won’t work.

 

[RC_Drunkford]

Spurs just simply can’t afford Lauri. That would be 2 max guys with Wemby set to sign a rookie super max next summer. It just won’t work.

it would work for about 2 1/2 years if they are ok with paying the tax in the year Wemby's max kicks in. Short rental to maybe win 1 chip. We need somebody cheaper.

 

[spurraider21]

I'm getting drawn back to a possible Lauri deal. Not necessarily because of Lauri himself, although I think he'd be a perfect fit at PF, but also because a potential trade would open up additional minutes for Castle, Harper and Champagnie. I really like the way Champagnie looked last season and so far in preseason and I'd also be ok with Waters geeting deep bench minutes.

Something like Vassell, Barnes the 2026 pick with Atl (maybe lottery protected) and their own second round pick for Lauri would work on the trade machine. Would that be enough for Utha to do it? They'd safe around 20M in salary after this season when Barnes contract ends.

Vassell, KJ and Sochan plus the Utha 2026 second rounder for Lauri would work as well.

Fox/Castle/Champagnie/Markkanen/Wemby starting with Harper, KJ, Sochan (or Barnes) and Kornet getting the majority bench minutes. This would also open up more playing time for Bryant.

Personally I wouldn't be against (slightly) overpaying Utha for getting a deal like this done. I'm realy high on Champagnie...

3 man guard rotation with Fox/Castle/Harper
3 man big rotation with Wemby/Lauri/Kornet

then divy up the SF minutes between Champagnie, whoever is left between HB and KJ, and eventually Bryant

you have that for 2 seasons until wemby is up for extension, at which point you have to move Fox for $ purposes

 

[O_V]

Vassell 82nd to 88th percentile? When he barely shoots league average from the three? Castle is a work in progress with a ton of potential while Vassell is likely as good as he'll ever get considering this will be his age 25 season. Castle is a playmaker with good defensive tools. Vassell would only work here if he was a sniper from the three point line but instead he's more a poor man's Jerry Stackhouse.

Agree. Vassell has not proven useful in any situation to pass the eye test over Castle. Let's hope someone else overvalues him based on stats.

 

[fafo]

I would say that it would be ideal for the Spurs to move Vassell for a stretch forward to fill the void left by Barnes after this season, but that depends a lot on him having a good year plus what the market for stretch 4s looks like. That position seems to always be the most sought after, and if Barnes walks and Sochan doesn’t improve the Spurs will be looking pretty weak.

If Harper plays anything like he has been lately through the regular season, I think the Spurs would be inclined to see what Vassell can command. I know he wouldn’t be a hot ticket item but I can’t imagine going into the 2026-2027 season still asking which of these guys has to be benched. The fine tuning of the roster may happen soon.