Game Thread Spurs (21-7) vs Thunder (25-3) (Tue 12/23/25) [7:30 PM CDT]

If he's not in France and didn't reaggravate the injury then there is no reason he shouldn't play tonight and christmas. And honestly no reason he shouldn't play regular minutes.
 
Sugus said:
Dude, what? Wemby is being injury managed for an injury he suffered, lmao. They're not randomly shutting him down with no injury or cause, all the examples you listed have come after actual, real injuries he's sustained. There's a big difference between "overly cautious in resuming activity after injury" and this "shutting down healthy players to psyche them into believing they're fragile" narrative you're peddling.

And we were all here complaining about Fox being held out, also after an injury, to start the season, so don't tell me it's a "mind games on Wemby" thing, it's clearly the team's medical team behavior/approach. And considering Fox has not re-aggravated his injury after returning.... Nor has Harper after his calf injury.... Nor has Wemby himself re-aggravated his calf while following this schedule.......... Maybe step off the ledge, tbh?
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I'm not saying they're playing mind games with Wemby, I said it could be unwittingly as they're openly acknowledging having no idea what they're doing and the probability that all this is unnecessary is real.

I'm just stating facts that he was doing drills the day after his "injury", there was a video, and himself admitted feeling no pain the day after. Still, he was kept away for weeks and still treated as a porcelain doll.

I also stated facts when mentioning his rookie season bs "injury" and the weeks of min restrictions that followed.

There seems to be a lot of fear and experimentations from the medical staff and I found it weird how their word are being used as gospel when they either don't know or wrong so often.

I do think there's a happy middle to find between precautions and a more "Stoic" approach, as it does impact one's mind in the long run.
 
Spurs Homer said:
Here is another perspective- im not disagreeing with anyone who is in support of "carefully" managing wemby to make sure he is good for the playoffs yada-yada...

just offering up another perspective;

unc Barnes has not missed a game in years (no jinx*) and i am going to guess that in that time- he went thru some bumps,bruises and yes - even some calf strains or calf related issues...

he sucked it up and played the fucking games that he signed a fucking contract to play. I am not suggesting the spurs risk wembys future ot whatever -

but man the fuck up and talk to Barnes and figure out why the man has REFUSED to sit game upon game when he has done the same rigourous off-seasons, in season-training, 82 game regular seasons, playoffs, finals, etc...

the man SUCKED IT UP- MANNED THE FUCK UP and played the motherfuckin games he signed to play for. Zero motherfuckin excuses.

So, vic, you want to be the best player on the planet?
Go consult with your teammate and decide who you want to be.

Rant over,
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This.
 
Spurs Homer said:
Here is another perspective- im not disagreeing with anyone who is in support of "carefully" managing wemby to make sure he is good for the playoffs yada-yada...

just offering up another perspective;

unc Barnes has not missed a game in years (no jinx*) and i am going to guess that in that time- he went thru some bumps,bruises and yes - even some calf strains or calf related issues...

he sucked it up and played the fucking games that he signed a fucking contract to play. I am not suggesting the spurs risk wembys future ot whatever -

but man the fuck up and talk to Barnes and figure out why the man has REFUSED to sit game upon game when he has done the same rigourous off-seasons, in season-training, 82 game regular seasons, playoffs, finals, etc...

the man SUCKED IT UP- MANNED THE FUCK UP and played the motherfuckin games he signed to play for. Zero motherfuckin excuses.

So, vic, you want to be the best player on the planet?
Go consult with your teammate and decide who you want to be.

Rant over,
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Currently, Wemby's expected future earnings are north of a billion dollars.
 
e78 said:
If he's not in France and didn't reaggravate the injury then there is no reason he shouldn't play tonight and christmas. And honestly no reason he shouldn't play regular minutes.
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First statement is correct, second one is questionable as the Spurs doctors dictate when he can go back to regular rotation minutes and we do not know when that is gonna happen. Mitch indicated that this coming of the bench thing will continue for some time so that means he is still on a minutes restriction. As soon as the minutes restriction is gone, he should start again.
 
Guru of Nothing said:
Currently, Wemby's expected future earnings are north of a billion dollars.
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No, no, he needs to MAN UP and RISK HIS CAREER by playing through injuries!!! He's obviously being a LAZY BUM and not even ASKING his TEAMMATE how in the fuck can he stay HEALTHY !!!!!! He never even asked another player???!!!!???!???? Get him off my fucking team SMH
 
Sugus said:
Sorry to say, but this is such a shitty and boomer-ish perspective on injuries and players, it's hard to read. How many NBA players have come forward to speak about being forced to play through injury, and their bodies and careers never being the same? Dirk and Isaiah Thomas easily come to mind, to name a few.

Players aren't more cautious with injuries because they aren't "man enough" to play through them; science has evolved to prove just how idiotic the "man up" concept even is, and sports teams took notice. Wemby doesn't need to talk to Barnes and "figure out" ( :st-lol: ) why he doesn't sit games -- Barnes will never see the wealth of Wemby's Supermax contracts or close to it, and therefore has a very different risk/reward perspective, to where playing through shit is justified for him (not to mention the obvious "different bodies" etc).

You can say "man up" and "motherfuckin" all you want, it doesn't make the body hurt less or you more capable of playing through pain. I take it you've never had any significant injury, maybe never even played basketball competitively? Shit can hurt your body like a true "mothafucka", you ain't playing through a calf injury lol.

At the end of the day, ranting at the TV screen cause the players don't do what you like does have a very boomer feel to it, I guess...
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It is not rocket science.

Barnes is an NBA player no different than wemby. They train, prepare,practice and endure long NBA seasons where anything can happen and it does. Barnes not having the same contract or salary is completely irrelevant.

Kobe used to have the same mentality - that he would have to be in a wheelchair to miss a game (and i hated the pos rapist tbh- but am forced to respect his warrior mentality- RIP)... Barnes has that mentality - as does Mikal Bridges and their consecutive games played is proof before your eyes.

Either you make excuses or you don't and wemby can choose who he wants to be. Of course there are legit injuries but when in doubt - look at Barnes and Bridges and decide if they were just "one in a million lucky freak players"

or if other things contributed to their consecutive games played which span - YEARS AND YEARS.

You have zero idea what pain or injury i have had to endure/work thru/persevere and it is irrelevant anyway.
 
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PanameSpur said:
I'm not saying they're playing mind games with Wemby, I said it could be unwittingly as they're openly acknowledging having no idea what they're doing and the probability that all this is unnecessary is real.
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Sorry, can you quote when and who exactly "acknowledged having no idea what they're doing"? I think I know what you're talking about (and if I do, then you don't), but want to check. Surely the person saying that didn't just say "I have no idea what I'm doing"?

PanameSpur said:
I'm just stating facts that he was doing drills the day after his "injury", there was a video, and himself admitted feeling no pain the day after. Still, he was kept away for weeks and still treated as a porcelain doll.
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That video on Twitter was of a stationary drill, something that hardly if at all involves the calves, mainly used for jumping and feet extension..... The rest of it is your average "injury management protocol". Like lol, "the patient said he felt no pain" is an eyeroll-inducing statement for a professional medical team lmao, it means almost nothing.

PanameSpur said:
I also stated facts when mentioning his rookie season bs "injury" and the weeks of min restrictions that followed.

There seems to be a lot of fear and experimentations from the medical staff and I found it weird how their word are being used as gospel when they either don't know or wrong so often.

I do think there's a happy middle to find between precautions and a more "Stoic" approach, as it does impact one's mind in the long run.
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Well, I stated facts as well when I told you all of his management has come after real injuries, didn't I? So again, this is not about Wemby being "psyched into" anything, but about a debatably overly-cautious medical team handling a human marvel specimen, one that would've been dissected after death for study two hundred years ago?

And again I'll point you to all the instances of the med staff being RIGHT - why are you so quick to claim they "either don't know or wrong so often"? This is not factual AFAIK --- and we actually now know that the biggest "saga" and moment-of-truth for our medical team - the Nephew saga -, they were RIGHT in wanting to have Kawhi learn to manage his pain because his condition was, indeed, degenerative!

You'll have to excuse my call for additional evidence before we begin to take any of your narratives as facts, when the available information entirely goes against that narrative.
 
Spurs Homer said:
It is not rocket science.

Barnes is an NBA player no different than wemby.
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Damn, you begin with a skid, lol. Wemby is factually a very different type of body and player than Barnes in literally every category, from body type, to playing style, fat distribution, ethnic group, age........... How exactly are they alike, besides "NBA players on the same team"? Lmao

Spurs Homer said:
They train, prepare,practice and endure long NBA seasons where anything can happen and it does. Barnes not having the same contract or salary is completely irrelevant.
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No, it's actually quite relevant when you're praising one player for putting their body on the line, while disparaging another for (the perception of!) being reluctant to do the same. Barnes being at the end of his career, and having nowhere near the future earning potential Wemby has, is actually strongly relevant for the discussion.....

Spurs Homer said:
Kobe used to have the same mentality - that he would have to be in a wheelchair to miss a game (and i hated the pos rapist tbh- but am forced to respect his warrior mentality- RIP)... Barnes has that mentality - as does Mikal Bridges and their consecutive games played is proof before your eyes.
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Wasn't the "Mamba Mentality" famously a PR stunt after the rape case to hail Kobe as a mythical figure? You think he's the only player with a "if I'm alive I'm playing" mindset? And where did those players end up? Again, Isaiah Thomas -- how was he rewarded for his actions? What were the consequences? I sure would like for Wemby to be able to walk right after his NBA career...

Spurs Homer said:
Either you make excuses or you don't and wemby can choose who he wants to be. Of course there are legit injuries but when in doubt - look at Barnes and Bridges and decide if they were just "one in a million lucky freak players"

or if other things contributed to their consecutive games played which span - YEARS AND YEARS.

You have zero idea what pain or injury i have had to endure/work thru/persevere and it is irrelevant anyway.
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So, which is it: are there "legit injuries" or can Wemby "choose" to play? Why don't players always "choose" to play - are they stupid?! :st-lol:

Again, the tenacious mindset of NBA players isn't lost on me, but you seem to be stuck 30+ years in the past in your approach to injuries. Hell, players didn't even have to "choose to play" in the past, they were literally forced to get out there by the coach or the Owners, lol.

Eventually they realized that forcing players, and the players immediately breaking down in worse fashion, was a bad ROI as opposed to actually listening to the doctors and letting them rest. There's a lot, quite a lot really, of literature on this subject if you care to inform yourself, sports science has made tremendous advances in recent years.
 
Sugus said:
Damn, you begin with a skid, lol. Wemby is factually a very different type of body and player than Barnes in literally every category, from body type, to playing style, fat distribution, ethnic group, age........... How exactly are they alike, besides "NBA players on the same team"? Lmao


No, it's actually quite relevant when you're praising one player for putting their body on the line, while disparaging another for (the perception of!) being reluctant to do the same. Barnes being at the end of his career, and having nowhere near the future earning potential Wemby has, is actually strongly relevant for the discussion.....


Wasn't the "Mamba Mentality" famously a PR stunt after the rape case to hail Kobe as a mythical figure? You think he's the only player with a "if I'm alive I'm playing" mindset? And where did those players end up? Again, Isaiah Thomas -- how was he rewarded for his actions? What were the consequences? I sure would like for Wemby to be able to walk right after his NBA career...


So, which is it: are there "legit injuries" or can Wemby "choose" to play? Why don't players always "choose" to play - are they stupid?! :st-lol:

Again, the tenacious mindset of NBA players isn't lost on me, but you seem to be stuck 30+ years in the past in your approach to injuries. Hell, players didn't even have to "choose to play" in the past, they were literally forced to get out there by the coach or the Owners, lol.

Eventually they realized that forcing players, and the players immediately breaking down in worse fashion, was a bad ROI as opposed to actually listening to the doctors and letting them rest. There's a lot, quite a lot really, of literature on this subject if you care to inform yourself, sports science has made tremendous advances in recent years.
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Lots of nonsense^
So ill just rebut one thing…

Im not praising barnes while disparaging wemby…
I am observing that wemby is in the league for 2 1/2 years and this “load mgmt” trend is starting to spread in the nba and it is a dangerous road imo

It is evident in your “focus” on “roi, barnes at the end $$$ vs wembys future roi and other fnancial motivations/excuses/weak thinking…again imo

Basketball is basketball…they are not in military combat, or playing rugby, in a caged fight to the death…

It is a basketball court with 10 players and a ball.

Decades upon decades of players have done it and now live normal lives but apparently you think wemby might one day be a paraplegic if he doesnt scientifically subscribe to some new age bubble-wrap and insular floating double-boxed padded spurs uniform!

*edit to add; barnes and bridges are just examples of what a “state of mind” can offer to a young players career…just old school toughness that i feel could benefit wemby and his future*
 
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Fireball said:
First statement is correct, second one is questionable as the Spurs doctors dictate when he can go back to regular rotation minutes and we do not know when that is gonna happen. Mitch indicated that this coming of the bench thing will continue for some time so that means he is still on a minutes restriction. As soon as the minutes restriction is gone, he should start again.
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I believe Mitch actually only stated that Wemby coming off the bench is the plan "until it is not" which is a pretty meaningless statement.
 
Sugus said:
Sorry, can you quote when and who exactly "acknowledged having no idea what they're doing"? I think I know what you're talking about (and if I do, then you don't), but want to check. Surely the person saying that didn't just say "I have no idea what I'm doing"?


That video on Twitter was of a stationary drill, something that hardly if at all involves the calves, mainly used for jumping and feet extension..... The rest of it is your average "injury management protocol". Like lol, "the patient said he felt no pain" is an eyeroll-inducing statement for a professional medical team lmao, it means almost nothing.


Well, I stated facts as well when I told you all of his management has come after real injuries, didn't I? So again, this is not about Wemby being "psyched into" anything, but about a debatably overly-cautious medical team handling a human marvel specimen, one that would've been dissected after death for study two hundred years ago?

And again I'll point you to all the instances of the med staff being RIGHT - why are you so quick to claim they "either don't know or wrong so often"? This is not factual AFAIK --- and we actually now know that the biggest "saga" and moment-of-truth for our medical team - the Nephew saga -, they were RIGHT in wanting to have Kawhi learn to manage his pain because his condition was, indeed, degenerative!

You'll have to excuse my call for additional evidence before we begin to take any of your narratives as facts, when the available information entirely goes against that narrative.
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I'll try to find the quote later but it was confirmed by McDonald on Twitter during an exchange with diff fans, he basically said that the medical staff wasn't denying their overly conservative approach related to their lack of knowledge and recent context of calf injuries.

I'm not making any accusations, I'm just talking about the effect it can have on a person psyche and his confidence when this one doesn't feel any pain but is told that he's still at risk and shouldn't play more than a number of mins picked off the nose. (why 20' and not 15' or 25'? it's ridiculous, either he's at risk or he's not)

I'm not by nature a conspiracy theorist, nor do I doubt science, however I also know that there are many aspects treated scientifically without "scientific proof" and there are a lot of experimentations.

I also insist on the fact that there are no past comparisons, at best some correlations.
 
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