Draft Atlanta Hawks Pick-Swap Watch Thread

[Mugen]

Back to the Hawks, they should become at least moderately better with the trade. Mccollum has been having a pretty good year and Kispert is a better Kennard.

I just don't see them getting higher than 7th though. I still have them as a play-in team and ending up as an 8th seed so no lottery swap. But if Porzingis misses a significant amount of time then all bets are off tbh.

 

[spursistan]

Bulls (17-20) are freefalling.. Still don't think Hawks (18-21) are outperforming 6th Magic (21-17) or 7th Miami (20-17) or 8th Cavs (21-18) for rest of season..

ATL should be looking in mirror as the 11th Bucks (assuming Giannis stays put) will likely pass them up and they already have the same number of losses (16-21)..They are not beating Giannis in an elimination game.

Still most likely scenario is another 13th/14th pick depending on how the West records shake out. Not too shabby for a swap (10+ jump!)

 

[spursistan]

Not sure how any front office can justify making a move for AD right now.. He's back to his early Pelicans days of exiting every other game with some random injury. This one probably ensures he won't get moved at deadline just by looking at his reaction. Dallas should treat him like a sunk cost from here on out..

https://twitter.com/x/status/2009477184101183771

https://twitter.com/x/status/2009477105365733709

 

[STAT88]

Not sure how any front office can justify making a move for AD right now.. He's back to his early Pelicans days of exiting every other game with some random injury. This one probably ensures he won't get moved at deadline just by looking at his reaction. Dallas should treat him like a sunk cost from here on out..

https://twitter.com/x/status/2009477184101183771

https://twitter.com/x/status/2009477105365733709

this guy is an embarrassment to the male gender

 

[STAT88]

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[dn0774]

Safe to assume Trae's people canvased the league as to who would be willing to pay him a decent contract and Wizards were the best/only bite. You know it's a bad market when the Kangz are like "sorry, pass".

I've seen some worried about CJ McCollum adding value (aka wins) to the Hawks. I would just add that CJ has also been a remarkable tank commander this year and last. I'm interested to see how it plays out.

 

[spursparker9]

Fingers crossed to have CJ McCollum ruin the Hawks like Trae did.

CJ is a smart and play within himself player. He fits in nicely anywhere

 

[Ice009]

Just FYI

https://twitter.com/x/status/2009279146606670261

Why do they have this type of rule? I've never understood it. Is it so you don't keep trading the same players multiple times within the same season?

 

[Vienna]

if the Hawks did trade for AD, I understand a package of Porzingis, Kennard and Risacher would work.
(Mavs want expirings, young player and picks)
DD-NAW-JJ-OO-AD as the starting line up looks quite good on paper. additionally CJ, Kispert, Krejci provide tons of shooting of the bench.
so, in theory this makes the Hawks a PO team and the pick trending south. more reason to think about using the pick in a trade.

 

[Exstatic]

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CJ is a smart and play within himself player. He fits in nicely anywhere

no defense,though. He’s as bad as Trae in that department.

 

[Exstatic]

Why do they have this type of rule? I've never understood it. Is it so you don't keep trading the same players multiple times within the same season?

They can send them out separately to Dallas, or a 3rd or fourth team in a larger trade. They just can’t package either with other players.

 

[LeBowen]

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no defense,though. He’s as bad as Trae in that department.

We're talking about a team trying to make the play-in in the East, they don't need to have 5 positive defenders on the floor.
NAW, Daniels, Risacher, Okongwu are all good perimeter defenders, right now they depend on Porzingis' health, he turns them into a good team.

 

[spursfanfromafar]

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no defense,though. He’s as bad as Trae in that department.

Yep. Right up (or down there) with the likes of Jalen Brunson, Isiah Collier and Kevin Love.

 

[Ice009]

They can send them out separately to Dallas, or a 3rd or fourth team in a larger trade. They just can’t package either with other players.

I still don't understand what the reason for the rule is. I did know you can trade them separately, but what difference does it make by not being able to trade them again together? What is the reason for it?

 

[Exstatic]

I still don't understand what the reason for the rule is. I did know you can trade them separately, but what difference does it make by not being able to trade them again together? What is the reason for it?

I would imagine for stability reasons. Guys want to move, and bring their family with them, and put their kids in school. If you could easily be flipped three or four more times, that would be impossible. They make it difficult, but not impossible to move players more than once. As Pop would say, there more to life than basketball.

 

[Ice009]

I would imagine for stability reasons. Guys want to move, and bring their family with them, and put their kids in school. If you could easily be flipped three or four more times, that would be impossible. They make it difficult, but not impossible to move players more than once. As Pop would say, there more to life than basketball.

OK, I never thought of it that way. That makes a ton of sense. The NBA makes it a little harder to trade then multiple times. I never thought about uprooting families multiple times if they're traded multiple times. I'd say you've got it right.

 

[BatManu20]

Let's fleece the Hawks again tbh. Okongwu would be a huge upgrade at the 4 position for us. He's shooting a career-high 37% from 3 this season on over 5 attempts per.

https://twitter.com/x/status/2009669408021721523

 

[Exstatic]

Let's fleece the Hawks again tbh. Okongwu would be a huge upgrade at the 4 position for us. He's shooting a career-high 37% from 3 this season on over 5 attempts per.

https://twitter.com/x/status/2009669408021721523

Can he play the 4, because it looks like he hardly does. Bbref isn’t always accurate,but they,list 96% at the 5, and 4% at the 4. That’s kind of definitive.

 

[Neuromancer]

Let's fleece the Hawks again tbh. Okongwu would be a huge upgrade at the 4 position for us. He's shooting a career-high 37% from 3 this season on over 5 attempts per.

https://twitter.com/x/status/2009669408021721523

He's an undersized 5 though

 

[Mugen]

Wemby can play the 4 or 5 tbh. Okongwu would fit in just fine, but I doubt the Hawks are trading with the Spurs again for the foreseeable future.

 

[ginobilized]

Technically that's correct if Dallas is willing to waive enough players to create the needed roster spots.

Dallas needs to waive PJ Washington for us

 

[LeBowen]

Can he play the 4, because it looks like he hardly does. Bbref isn’t always accurate,but they,list 96% at the 5, and 4% at the 4. That’s kind of definitive.

He can, but the issue is that Hawks haven't had a legit C in years, just washed Capela and injured Porzingis.

If Okongwu was actually available, I'd offer them to basically undo the Dejounte trade.
Cancel this year's swap and give them back their '27 pick in exchange for our '27 pick back.

 

[PocketMonger]

He can, but the issue is that Hawks haven't had a legit C in years, just washed Capela and injured Porzingis.

If Okongwu was actually available, I'd offer them to basically undo the Dejounte trade.
Cancel this year's swap and give them back their '27 pick in exchange for our '27 pick back.

If Atlanta was smart they wouldn't trade for AD and see what happens with the Pels pick. With Trae gone there's no rush to do anything.

 

[LeBowen]

If Atlanta was smart

There's your problem.

 

[BatManu20]

Like Mugen said, I doubt ATL would make any trade with us right now, but if they would, I'd gladly make the deal LeBowen just suggested above for Okongwu tbh. He can easily play Barnes' role offensively of hitting (mostly corner) 3's (that's already his forte) while being a significant upgrade defensively. Would also give us some much-needed size on our front court — he's 6'10 250 lbs w/ a 7'1 wingspan. Just turned 25 last month so he's just entering his prime now and doesn't need years to develop. He'd be a seamless fit on this roster. No-brainer imo.