Player The unfortunately low-ceilinged Shaolin monastery of Victor Wembanyama

[DAF86]

If I'm P,MATFO I'm pitching this to Wemby:

"Here you have, a blank check. If you want the Max, you have it. But if you are willing to leave some money on the table, we'll do everything in our power to field the best roster possible to win as many championships as possible".

 

[Mugen]

If I'm P,MATFO I'm pitching this to Wemby:

"Here you have, a blank check. If you want the Max, you have it. But if you are willing to leave some money on the table, we'll do everything in our power to field the best roster possible to win as many championships as possible".

No thanks tbh. I'm not asking our franchise to take a pay cut before he even hits his prime. BWrong can figure it out.

 

[RC_Drunkford]

https://twitter.com/x/status/2024557067294642499

If I'm P,MATFO I'm pitching this to Wemby:

"Here you have, a blank check. If you want the Max, you have it. But if you are willing to leave some money on the table, we'll do everything in our power to field the best roster possible to win as many championships as possible".

That'll be the dumbest shit ever. Wemby for 252/5 is a bargain, especially if you consider that the Celtics will pay Jaylen Brown 57/61/64. Shai extended for 273/4. Even Bam will earn more per year.

That's the supermax which Wemby obviously ain't eligible for yet, which makes his contract look amazing in comparison.

 

[scott]

No thanks tbh. I'm not asking our franchise to take a pay cut before he even hits his prime. BWrong can figure it out.

Agreed. If Wemby brings it up, I'm all ears... but I'm not going to risk insulting a Top 5 player by suggesting he take a discount (and frankly we'll already get a discount by this only being a 25/30 max instead of a 35% max... bargain contract for Wemby, tbh)

 

[DAF86]

No thanks tbh. I'm not asking our franchise to take a pay cut before he even hits his prime. BWrong can figure it out.

Meh, you wouldn't be asking him, you would be just tasting the waters. Wemby seems like a guy that would be willing to sacrifice money in ex-change for a more competitive team. It would be dumb not to explore the oportunity at least.

 

[Mugen]

Meh, you wouldn't be asking him, you would be just tasting the waters. Wemby seems like a guy that would be willing to sacrifice money in ex-change for a more competitive team. It would be dumb not to explore the oportunity at least.

Like @scott said, if he came to MATFO with that idea then great. But I'm not testing shit with him. Especially not after the Nephew debacle.

Even an insinuation of a pay cut could be taken as an insult and I wouldn't blame him tbh. He's frankly grossly underpaid if anything.

 

[spurraider21]

Agreed. If Wemby brings it up, I'm all ears... but I'm not going to risk insulting a Top 5 player by suggesting he take a discount (and frankly we'll already get a discount by this only being a 25/30 max instead of a 35% max... bargain contract for Wemby, tbh)

yeah, its year 3 and wemby's impact already is in the same tier as the legit 35% guys, and we are 6 years away from him making that. this is not the time to get cute with your omegastar

 

[Sugus]

Any paycut offers must come after the first Max contract, imo. Give him the first $250M that changes his life forever, then when he's not only set for life but also much older and with a better grasp of how to win in the NBA, you can pitch him that "discount" idea.

There is not a member on this forum that would take anything less than the Max if they were in Vic's position, tbh. It's deranged. Wemby knows his worth, back up the Brinks truck

 

[RC_Drunkford]

will most likely be 303 million, unless he plays less than 65 games

https://twitter.com/x/status/2024560065412550755

 

[DAF86]

Like @scott said, if he came to MATFO with that idea then great. But I'm not testing shit with him. Especially not after the Nephew debacle.

Even an insinuation of a pay cut could be taken as an insult and I wouldn't blame him tbh. He's frankly grossly underpaid if anything.

Meh, If you phrase it like I did, I don't see how Wemby could possibly feel offended. But I guess you are right, there's no reason to be asking for paycuts this early.

 

[Sugus]

will most likely be 303 million, unless he plays less than 65 games

https://twitter.com/x/status/2024560065412550755

Can't believe they didn't address the Supermax contract bullshit in the last CBA renewal.

Making the Supermax count the same as a normal Max towards the cap hold was easy as pie, a single clause amendment would've done it. Now it continues to punish small-market teams who draft their superstar and pay to keep them around, the opposite of what the NBA should want for its product.

Guess the players were too concerned with dropping the marijuana testing to care about anything else

 

[Ice009]

as stated, its the max extension

its not a surprise, and barely qualifies as news tbh

Crap, sorry, didn't read the part under where it said "max." I just saw the number and it seemed kind of low.

 

[scott]

Can't believe they didn't address the Supermax contract bullshit in the last CBA renewal.

Making the Supermax count the same as a normal Max towards the cap hold was easy as pie, a single clause amendment would've done it. Now it continues to punish small-market teams who draft their superstar and pay to keep them around, the opposite of what the NBA should want for its product.

Guess the players were too concerned with dropping the marijuana testing to care about anything else

I think we need to keep in mind that the caps, tax thresholds, aprons, etc. are just as much about saving the owners money as they are about competitiveness.

By allowing the supermax delta to not count towards the those things - it will just free up the owners to spend more... and they don't want that.

(For the record, I agree they SHOULD be excluded... but I think that is the likely rationale for why they aren't. I also think that's why we haven't seen exclusions for homegrown players or other creative ideas that sound good from a competitive standpoint)

 

[Sugus]

I think we need to keep in mind that the caps, tax thresholds, aprons, etc. are just as much about saving the owners money as they are about competitiveness.

By allowing the supermax delta to not count towards the those things - it will just free up the owners to spend more... and they don't want that.

(For the record, I agree they SHOULD be excluded... but I think that is the likely rationale for why they aren't. I also think that's why we haven't seen exclusions for homegrown players or other creative ideas that sound good from a competitive standpoint)

That's understandable, especially considering these changes require a large majority to be passed.

But what surprises me is that we haven't heard any push on it from the players themselves - which do stand to gain a lot from something like that. Difference between the Max and Supermax is "only" 5% of the cap iirc; but that's a lot of money for the bench players to get distributed towards. Same idea as the Play-In Tournament being a big incentive for the role-players than it is for the stars.

Just crazy that there seems to have been no consideration, no reports, nothing. But to your credit - the Second Apron stuff absolutely feels like a way to strap teams of the ability to spend "Warriors level money" on their teams. As always, follow the money...

 

[wEmBoY]

Meh, you wouldn't be asking him, you would be just tasting the waters. Wemby seems like a guy that would be willing to sacrifice money in ex-change for a more competitive team. It would be dumb not to explore the oportunity at least.

Wemby is mot tim duncan. Also wemby is young and he needs the money first especially he’s not even on his prime. He needs supermax contract first.

 

[spurraider21]

Wemby is mot tim duncan. Also wemby is young and he needs the money first especially he’s not even on his prime. He needs supermax contract first.

Duncan also didnt take less than the max until fairly late into his career. he signed a then-max deal of 7 years 122 mil in 2003. was bid timing for him with CBAs. KG had signed for 6/126 back in 1997.

it was after that 7 year deal timmy started taking less. that deal began in 08/09 (the extension replaced the last year of the other deal as well), by which point timmy was past his prime already

 

[brazil]

If there is a time for victor to take a max contract it is now tbh… he will have another window later if he is willing to take a pay cut to keep spurs core with Harper and castle

 

[kxs783]

After that health scare, I'm getting every last penny if I'm Wemby. No telling what happens in his career over the years, so you take all you can get each contract. Also reports state that the Spurs team value could have exceeded an extra billion dollars the moment he was drafted. It'll be an insult to ask him to take less.

 

[100%Duncan]

Fuck that discount talk

 

[spursistan]

Wemby is one 'scoring tear' away from actually being in Top 2 MVP conversation.. Spurs record & seed put him there by default; he just need to up that PPG. I wonder if he might start to sniff the possibility of being the youngest MVP winner ever?

 

[Ariel]

Wemby is one 'scoring tear' away from actually being in Top 2 MVP conversation.. Spurs record & seed put him there by default; he just need to up that PPG. I wonder if he might start to sniff the possibility of being the youngest MVP winner ever?

It would have to be this season, maybe if Spurs get the #1 overall record and SGA / Jokic are hurt, otherwise it's an uphill battle

 

[CGD]

Sengun blows

KD was right?

 

[BatManu20]

https://twitter.com/x/status/2024721957359370611

 

[ace3g]

https://twitter.com/x/status/2024840014576636195

 

[frenchfred]

Any paycut offers must come after the first Max contract, imo. Give him the first $250M that changes his life forever, then when he's not only set for life but also much older and with a better grasp of how to win in the NBA, you can pitch him that "discount" idea.

There is not a member on this forum that would take anything less than the Max if they were in Vic's position, tbh. It's deranged. Wemby knows his worth, back up the Brinks truck

I would definitely take 200 millions over 250 millions to have better players around me, even 150. People just don't realize how much money that is and that is before any sponsoring contracts. I'd rather have my name remembered because I won more titles than die with 200 millions in my bank account. You can live off the interests EASILY (meaning having a luxurious life) for the rest of your life