Player The unfortunately low-ceilinged Shaolin monastery of Victor Wembanyama

[Em-City]

You forgot the best part... TD21 alleges he forgot that ever "retired" (but yet somehow he had the wherewithall to make an "I'm back" post despite claiming he did not know that he retired...)

is he still back, or has he retired again?

 

[MannyIG]

I’m going to keep saying it again and again. The 65 game rule is idiotic. Honestly, Wemby should sit out the Brooklyn game, but because of the rule he can’t.

As someone who just got to my room from the Brooklyn game, fuck this mess. I traveled to NYC for these games, and the 65 game rule is serving its intended purpose. Wemby is fucking young you guys. He needs to play. He didn't over extend himself at all.

We all want Wemby to win the awards. But we should all want him to play more than 65 games too. That shit is important and I refuse to think the rule is bad just because its effecting Wemby.

 

[MannyIG]

It's extremely discouraging to see Wemby following up his first game in 2 months with playoffs-level minutes load and physicality with 2 duds and the worst part he came off soft complaining about lack sleep and rest during ASB. This is why i have been warning about overdoing the load management thing..Wemby's clearly lost the conditioning he's built up over the summer ..

We should probably not be surprised if Wemby wilts in the playoffs as a series goes longer and the extra minutes of physical play take their toll..

Honestly posts like this should be almost ban worthy.

 

[MannyIG]

I suspect that the last two games have been the defenses selling out on Wemby and just figuring that they will live or die based on the shooters but I want to double check. It's also why Castle has way more space to operate. Tonight Wemby had virtually no space on offense except for a lob or two. The Spurs force the issue a couple of times - including Wemby - and it usually ends badly, but other times when they just take whats available they really thrived.

I do also think Wemby's effort was fairly low on offense tonight, but they also didn't need it to be higher. Was a perfect play to sit him on after that block too.

 

[spursistan]

Honestly posts like this should be almost ban worthy.

You seem to have a fundamental problem with the ideal of freedom of expression or thought. Why do you relish playing the role of forum policeman? Expressing a different basketball opinion in civil manner is not sacrilege. It shouldn't be this difficult to understand this very basic concept unless you are posting from North Korea.

 

[MannyIG]

You seem to have a fundamental problem with the ideal of freedom of expression or thought. Why do you relish playing the role of forum policeman? Expressing a different basketball opinion in civil manner is not sacrilege. It shouldn't be this difficult to understand this very basic concept unless you are posting from North Korea.

Dude I support the right of a crazy preacher to stand on a street corner and tell everyone they are going to hell because Wemby had a bad shooting night without the government getting involved but that doesn't mean I really want to listen to that nonsense myself. I don't invite that person into my home, I generally don't engage with them, I generally avoid them as much as possible, but I will also shame the fuck out of them for being so idiotic. Do I call the cops on them? No. Does calling an idiot an idiot make me a policeman? That's lol.

The next time I shoot of so much as DM to anyone who can actually ban someone on this site - or any other for that matter - asking them to be banned will be the first. But I am going to treat utterly stupid posts with the derision that I belive they deserve. Your post was REALLY bad and there is nothing from it worthy of discussion, IMO. There's nothing uncivil about my post. I didn't call for your beheading. I didn't call for you to read an essay on the way Slovenians feel about money. I made a pretty obvious joke.

But seriously, keep making stupid posts and I'm gonna talk to the authorities about having you banned.

 

[MannyIG]

It's extremely discouraging to see Wemby following up his first game in 2 months with playoffs-level minutes load and physicality with 2 duds and the worst part he came off soft complaining about lack sleep and rest during ASB. This is why i have been warning about overdoing the load management thing..Wemby's clearly lost the conditioning he's built up over the summer ..

We should probably not be surprised if Wemby wilts in the playoffs as a series goes longer and the extra minutes of physical play take their toll..

Like seriously, what conversation is supposed to come from this? The Spurs have won 11 in a row, inthe middle of the RRT and Wemby is playing fucking amazing but because he didn't score a shit ton of points the last two games you're discouraged? You're crying because the Michelin Award winning restaurant you're at didn't bring you the right color napkin for fucks sake.

 

[timtonymanu]

Tbh spursistan is cool and has good takes. But calling Wemby a soft baby is hardly civil which was said in the game thread. Sometimes the handwringing is excessive and it's really unnecessary at times to the point where I just rather block out that BS too.

 

[spursistan]

Tbh spursistan is cool and has good takes. But calling Wemby a soft baby is hardly civil which was said in the game thread. Sometimes the handwringing is excessive and it's really unnecessary at times to the point where I just rather block out that BS too.

I don't want to derail this thread further especially when that poster loves to act like forum cop, but i've been on record saying that i'm going to be hard on Wemby holding him to the highest standards of franchise player for obvious reasons. Complaining about lack of sleep for a lackluster offensive performance? really? Duncan said he barely slept the two nights after 6 (the mother of all heartbreaks) and came back 48 hours later with 24/12 at age 37. Wemby looked so weak with that comment, tbh You got neutralized on O, and that happened often against good defensive teams and not so good ones. You are not elite offensive player yet, and that's okay. It has nothing to do with you not tucked into bed 2-3 hours earlier..

 

[wEmBoY]

I don't want to derail this thread further especially when that poster loves to act like forum cop, but i've been on record saying that i'm going to be hard on Wemby holding him to the highest standards of franchise player for obvious reasons. Complaining about lack of sleep for a lackluster offensive performance? really? Duncan said he barely slept the two nights after 6 (the mother of all heartbreaks) and came back 48 hours later with 24/12 at age 37. Wemby looked so weak with that comment, tbh You got neutralized on O, and that happened often against good defensive teams and not so good ones. You are not elite offensive player yet, and that's okay. It has nothing to do with you not tucked into bed 2-3 hours earlier..

I remember kobe said he was waking up 4am and going to practice at 6am everyday just to train and work hard to get better.

 

[Dbreiden83080]

I don't want to derail this thread further especially when that poster loves to act like forum cop, but i've been on record saying that i'm going to be hard on Wemby holding him to the highest standards of franchise player for obvious reasons. Complaining about lack of sleep for a lackluster offensive performance? really? Duncan said he barely slept the two nights after 6 (the mother of all heartbreaks) and came back 48 hours later with 24/12 at age 37. Wemby looked so weak with that comment, tbh You got neutralized on O, and that happened often against good defensive teams and not so good ones. You are not elite offensive player yet, and that's okay. It has nothing to do with you not tucked into bed 2-3 hours earlier..

You know Victor may never be somebody that is averaging 30 points and 15 rebounds every single season. But the good news is right now we have such a good and talented team that he doesn’t have to do that. If those pieces stay healthy, they should remain integral parts to the team’s success. The fact that Wemby is such a monumental game changer defensively is the best possible news. If he was simply a one-way player like a Luka Dončić, our chances at championships would be severely limited. We all know even for the time he played in Tim Duncan wasn’t putting up monster numbers every year. But because of his versatility, his leadership, his unselfishness, we won and we won a lot. I’m hoping for a similar result.

 

[frenchfred]

I don't want to derail this thread further especially when that poster loves to act like forum cop, but i've been on record saying that i'm going to be hard on Wemby holding him to the highest standards of franchise player for obvious reasons. Complaining about lack of sleep for a lackluster offensive performance? really? Duncan said he barely slept the two nights after 6 (the mother of all heartbreaks) and came back 48 hours later with 24/12 at age 37. Wemby looked so weak with that comment, tbh You got neutralized on O, and that happened often against good defensive teams and not so good ones. You are not elite offensive player yet, and that's okay. It has nothing to do with you not tucked into bed 2-3 hours earlier..

are you 7'6? Probably not. Wemby has a huge body, which is great for blocking shots but also comes with its lot of problems. Really tall people can be tired more quickly, Wemby is actually an exception in basketball especially in today's NBA where running is more important. Then, if he is somebody who doesn't sleep easily, that adds to the problem. Personally, it takes me days to get used to a new bed, I don't sleep in planes either so when I travel I'm usually exhausted for few days. We m ight have come to the realization that Wemby will have these issues for the rest of his career. He might never be available 82 games playing 35 minutes.

 

[Ariel]

Given the concerns voiced in the recent game thread about Wemby's physical state, I was wondering if anyone knew if he actually had the surgery to solve the underlying issue that caused the clot (thoracic outlet decompression), since Wemby seemed to avoid giving concrete answers:

At the 4:43 mark:

• Brian Windhorst: "Victor Wembanyama had surgery to get rid of the blood clot."
• Michael C. Wright: "He's not telling us that. We definitely point-blank asked him during the end-of-season interviews, and he wouldn't say whether or not he had surgery."
• Brian Windhorst: "Well, I'll leave that alone for now, but I thought he had surgery to like fix the rib or something. But OK, I'm not gonna step in anything that I can't step out of, so I'll just leave it alone with that."

With the help of @dn0774 who pointed to Kevin Hart's interview:

It seems he definitely did:

Just in case anyone had the same doubt and doesn't check game threads.

 

[100%Duncan]

Given the concerns voiced in the recent game thread about Wemby's physical state, I was wondering if anyone knew if he actually had the surgery to solve the underlying issue that caused the clot, since Wemby seemed to avoid giving concrete answers:

• Brian Windhorst: "Victor Wembanyama had surgery to get rid of the blood clot."
• Michael C. Wright: "He's not telling us that. We definitely point-blank asked him during the end-of-season interviews, and he wouldn't say whether or not he had surgery."
• Brian Windhorst: "Well, I'll leave that alone for now, but I thought he had surgery ("thoracic outlet decompression") to like fix the rib or something. But OK, I'm not gonna step in anything that I can't step out of, so I'll just leave it alone with that."

With the help of @dn0774 who pointed to Kevin Hart's interview:

It seems he definitely did:

Just in case anyone had the same doubt and doesn't check game threads.

Now if we can just verify if he had that scar before…

 

[brazil]

You know Victor may never be somebody that is averaging 30 points and 15 rebounds every single season. But the good news is right now we have such a good and talented team that he doesn’t have to do that. If those pieces stay healthy, they should remain integral parts to the team’s success. The fact that Wemby is such a monumental game changer defensively is the best possible news. If he was simply a one-way player like a Luka Dončić, our chances at championships would be severely limited. We all know even for the time he played in Tim Duncan wasn’t putting up monster numbers every year. But because of his versatility, his leadership, his unselfishness, we won and we won a lot. I’m hoping for a similar result.

I think it is quite clear that his offense slump is related to a physical toll. In a perfect world Spurs would shut him down a couple of games to breath out a bit. Now Victor seemed to have done a clear choice the past few games about where to spend his energy, his offense decline coincides with a clear defense intensity increase whereas it was clearly more balanced before. The amazing thing about that is two fold: one the final impact is the same (win and on/off stats) and two it shows once again where Victor priorities are and they are not on individual offensive stats, team and win come first. We are blessed to have this kid in our franchise.

 

[Dbreiden83080]

I think it is quite clear that his offense slump is related to a physical toll. In a perfect world Spurs would shut him down a couple of games to breath out a bit. Now Victor seemed to have done a clear choice the past few games about where to spend his energy, his offense decline coincides with a clear defense intensity increase whereas it was clearly more balanced before. The amazing thing about that is two fold: one the final impact is the same (win and on/off stats) and two it shows once again where Victor priorities are and they are not on individual offensive stats, team and win come first. We are blessed to have this kid in our franchise.

I’m with you.

 

[CGD]

Any Wemby chess pics yet lol

 

[spursfanlikeyou]

Wemby is never going to average 30 points a game and we won't ever need him to do so.

There is too much offensive talent on this team to have one person waste a ton of energy scoring the ball. Once in a while sure, however if he averages 20 for the rest of this career but is grabbing 12-15 boards, 2-3 blocks and altering about 5-10 shots per game, THAT is exactly what this teams focus should be on.

At the end of the day we can say he's young, etc. all we want. The kid is 7'5 maybe 7'6. You don't put someone in a position that aside from everything he does, add in another 30 point average. The Spurs are playing the long game, there's a reason why they haven't gotten a stud PF yet and never may. Surround him with shooters and spread the scoring between 5-6 players, exactly what is happening.

P.S., can't wait to win the ring this year.

Cheers.

 

[ambchang]

It’s not a bad thing for Wemby to struggle (and I use the term lightly) through a few games due to fatigue. NBA seasons are known for being a marathon and the best of the best players will still find a way to slog through those games where energy levels are low and the shots just aren’t falling. Wemby will always had his defence to anchor the entire team, so he can work on a variety of go to shots with his height, agility and quickness. Mid range jumpers, hook shots, some back to the basket turnarounds, pick and roll lobs are all shots that could be theoretically unstoppable so he is not short on options.

The admiral really never had that shot when driving lanes were taken from him and his elbow jumpers weren’t falling. There aren’t many players who had a few absolutely unstoppable moves that are money in the bank. Duncan and Hakeem had a variety of moves they can go to, Jordan had the turnaround and the refs, Shaq was just unstoppable, shai has a huge bag, Kobe had his lineup of big man to rebound his misses and Dirk had than one legged fadeaway that lasted a few seasons. I can argue LeBron never had that shot as great as he was. There really were only a handful of players who can simply carry a team on offense every single night and we were lucky Duncan was one of them.

 

[spursparker9]

Victor Wembanyama is on a sad trajectory to become the next Ralph Sampson

There are far too many similarities between Wembanyama and Sampson to ignore.

sports.yahoo.com

 

[XenoThirteen]

Victor Wembanyama is on a sad trajectory to become the next Ralph Sampson

There are far too many similarities between Wembanyama and Sampson to ignore.

sports.yahoo.com

Terrible clickbait article. Wemby had a freak medical issue last year and this year he had a strain that the team has been babying him over. He's had a relatively normal career injury-wise so far. Bumps and bruises are a part of the game.

 

[Coyote2!]

Wemby, last night, hopefully:

 

[Kick-Stand]

Victor Wembanyama is on a sad trajectory to become the next Ralph Sampson

There are far too many similarities between Wembanyama and Sampson to ignore.

sports.yahoo.com

I'm so sick of the Sampson comparison. The only comparison between them is they're both tall and slim. Sampson was a good defender but was nowhere close to the defensive player Wemby was even rookie year much less now. Sampson's best year shotblocking he averaged 2.4 a game as a 23 year-old rookie in an era where everyone played in the post (which is how stone footed Mark Eaton averaged 4.3 a game that year). Meanwhile Wemby is having his worst year for blocks with 2.8 a game in an era where everyone shoots the three and players just don't even attempt shots in the paint when Wemby is there a lot of the time. Sampson good defender, probably top 10-20% of the league at the time. Wemby is a defender like we have never seen before who routinely guards two players at once, even if they're both allstars (e.g. Cade and Duren the other night). Plus Wemby's blocks aren't the swat in the stands variety usually. They're often tip blocks so he can grab the rebound, which is something I have only ever seen done outside of Wemby by Bill Russell. Or he loves to swat shots off the glass which often lead to transition points. Or my favorites when he slams the ball straight into the floor and then catches it on the bounce.

 

[Dbreiden83080]

Wemby is never going to average 30 points a game and we won't ever need him to do so.

There is too much offensive talent on this team to have one person waste a ton of energy scoring the ball. Once in a while sure, however if he averages 20 for the rest of this career but is grabbing 12-15 boards, 2-3 blocks and altering about 5-10 shots per game, THAT is exactly what this teams focus should be on.

At the end of the day we can say he's young, etc. all we want. The kid is 7'5 maybe 7'6. You don't put someone in a position that aside from everything he does, add in another 30 point average. The Spurs are playing the long game, there's a reason why they haven't gotten a stud PF yet and never may. Surround him with shooters and spread the scoring between 5-6 players, exactly what is happening.

P.S., can't wait to win the ring this year.

Cheers.

I think this is probably correct.. At the end of the day what do we want? A Wemby that averages 30 and we lose in the 1st or 2nd round yearly or he averages 23-25 with insane levels of defensive dominance which along with Steph, Harper etc could mean rings? Pretty easy decision..

 

[Dbreiden83080]

Victor Wembanyama is on a sad trajectory to become the next Ralph Sampson

There are far too many similarities between Wembanyama and Sampson to ignore.

sports.yahoo.com

Spurs are rolling hottest team in the NBA perfect time for a troll article. What a clown..