Bingo. And the exact same thing can be said about Fox. Do we want him taking 20 shots and averaging 27ppg and losing in Rd 1 or 2 because "he's a max player" - or do we want him playing the unselfish ball he has been and our team to be more successful? I'll take the latter.
Well said. In fact I will go one step further and say that Wemby might be soon be called the best defensive player ever in the NBA. Except that he will be called so while being a 95-96%ile offensive player. The closest to such excellence on both ends of the floor in recent years was Duncan and lately, Giannis. And Wemby is even better than these two on defense.
Let me ask you this. How come all these alltime greats like jordan, lebron, bird, magic, shaq,kareem, Duncan(first half of his career) etc. or even modern era greats jokic, giannis and shai(31ppg this season)was able put up alltime greats stats, playing atleast 34mpg and winning MVP’s was able to win a championship? You think and act like the only way to win a championship is to play the bs so called spurs way? Fact is Spurs unselfish baskeball or spurs way or a team that cant produce MVP type of player or the inventor of load management, was able to produce only 1 championship and that was 2014. 99,03,05 and 07 titles are from Duncan carrying the team and playing an elite level of offense and defense. It looks like you are a new bandwagon spurs fan and doesnt know the history of duncan spurs especially from 98 to 05.
I am in my 40s brother. So I am hardly a new fan. I was posting on the old Spurstalk back in 2005. Tim Duncan is probably my favorite athlete of all time. Not all of those players put up ridiculous scoring numbers, Tim Duncan in particular we know his highest scoring average was 25 in 2002. Tim Duncan definitely carried a huge load in 2003 but starting in 2005 that’s when a lot of the help really came in. It became a big 3. Manu was huge in the 2005 playoffs and the NBA finals. Now it’s tough to compare different times and eras. Right now we have a high level of talent and the upside looks amazing on this team. That could change we will see? Maybe Victor is gonna have to carry a lot more of the load than we anticipate. If you’re worried about him getting in any sort of GOAT conversation don’t. The media is never absolutely never taking that away from Michael Jordan. So that’s off the table. If this man can be anything in the realm of what Tim Duncan was in terms of accolades and most importantly championships, we all should be doing fucking cartwheels.
You diidnt answer my question. Tbh
have you seen Shai, Joker and Gianni’s’ stats from the first three seasons?
Yes, I did definitively. Read it again if you want. I’m done.
Yep and In terms of scoring average, there was literally only one player in history that had a massive scoring average and won a bunch of championships and that’s Michael Jordan. And even he had to take his foot off the gas somewhat once the team dynamic became so important. I don’t see Victor consistently averaging 30 points and the Spurs consistently winning championships. Because that would mean he’s getting very little help whatsoever.
Have you seen lebron, jordan, duncan stats for the first three seasons?
Screw it I’ll jump back in. Tim Duncan‘s highest scoring average was 25 points so what are you talking about?
But he was 5th in scoring that year. While wemby is what 19th-20th?
Nah you didnt. Tbh
Which is why it’s very difficult to compare players that played in much different ERAS. You are always so obsessed with what his stats are. Is that a fantasy basketball thing or just a personal issue you have with him? If the team is winning, I really don’t give a shit about him scoring 30 points a game. Would you rather he score 30 and be just a decent defensive big?
If he comes out on Sunday and drops 35 and 15, it’s a non-issue. But if that 35 and 15 comes in a loss, I don’t want it.
It only neans wemby is not on the same level offensively as duncan even if they have the same ppg. Duncan was 5th in scoring when he averaged 25 and 7th when he averaged 23.7. While wemby is 19-20th?
And most other seasons, TD was right around 20 or below 20. It’s meaningless. What are we talking about here like 2 field goals a game difference that you are unhappy about? So if he was getting 28 or 29 a game you are good?
Tbh the Spurs almost never lose when Wemby has games like that. Wemby's top 13 games of the season (as measured by GameScore) were all Ws for the Spurs. The only time we lost when he had an MVP-level stat line was when he had a 30-piece triple double against the Warriors (when Curry had that vintage performance).
They have Won 11 straight when he was dominant, and when he was not dominant in this run.
Man we’re talking about early yeara of duncan especially when load management was not yet implemented.Yes ofcourse ill be happy if wemby is averging 28-29ppg i wish itll happen. But its highly unlikely because of BS load management. You understand?
I never didn’t understand. I just don’t agree with your complaints. Try and enjoy the rest of the season is all I can tell you. Who knows what the future holds?
See you diidnt answer my first question. Again i ll ask you. How come jordan,lebron ,duncan, bird magic, kareem or modern supeestars like jokic giannis shai put up all rime great stats,. Being elite offensively , winning multiple mvp’s Was able to win a championship? Or even win mvp’s and cahmpionship in the same year?
