Trade Spurs Trade Ideas

[Exstatic]

What are your ideas for an attainable shooting rebounding big and what would you be willing to give up in a trade like this? In your mind what does a realistic trade for this sort of player look like?

Santi Aldama or Jalen Smith.

 

[mo7888]

Santi Aldama or Jalen Smith.

Doesn't really help rebounding, but keep an eye on Hauser. Celtics said they were under no pressure to get out of the tax, but when you look at it longterm, it makes more sense for them to get under the threshold now.

Spurs- Hauser
Nets- Olynyk + 2nds
Boston- 2nds

 

[Mugen]

Hauser would be an awesome get as well. Not sure if C's will move him though.

 

[Mugen]

Doesn't really help rebounding, but keep an eye on Hauser. Celtics said they were under no pressure to get out of the tax, but when you look at it longterm, it makes more sense for them to get under the threshold now.

Spurs- Hauser
Nets- Olynyk + 2nds
Boston- 2nds

I don't think Boston would move Hauser for only 2nds. They'd probably want a big back in return tbh or Sochan.

 

[mo7888]

I don't think Boston would move Hauser for only 2nds. They'd probably want a big back in return tbh or Sochan.

It just depends if they want to get out of the repeater tax. If they really don't care about the tax they should just keep him, but they'll look back and regret it imo

 

[bluebellmaniac]

I don't think Boston would move Hauser for only 2nds. They'd probably want a big back in return tbh or Sochan.

Sochan + Biyombo could do it.

 

[CGD]

Spurs should be all over Reid/McDaniels if they're available, either of them would be great for us.

Hell yes on McDaniel. Ship has sailed for me on Reid, he's been so-so this year and kinda ass on defense.

MIN: Giannis
SAS: McDaniels
MIL: Randle; Sochan; Kelly; Hawks 27FPR; #36 (SAS via Utah); all the NOLA SRPs; plus whatever pick MIN will send out

 

[Exstatic]

Hell yes on McDaniel. Ship has sailed for me on Reid, he's been so-so this year and kinda ass on defense.

MIN: Giannis
SAS: McDaniels
MIL: Randle; Sochan; Kelly; Hawks 27FPR; #36 (SAS via Utah); all the NOLA SRPs; plus whatever pick MIN will send out

The problem with sending out only ending contracts is that the apron crunch is now sooner, and instead of having to trade only Fox, we’ll also have to ship out one of Castle or Harper, too.

 

[1kangaroo]

It also doesn't mean that it isnt a sign. If you're not interested in the topic then hop on down the trail...

Please this is the stupidest take ever lets deal reality not fantasy land because you hate castle. The Spurs are not trading a guy they think is a core of the future in year 2 while he has helped them get to the #2 spot in the west even with his roller coaster ride. Lets deal in reality not act like brain dead fans and sports commentators. I think Vassell should be traded but I know right now they are not going to trade him before the deadline because we call that reality. They may make a move but it will be around draft picks then the core players salary wise sochan + Olynyk and any spare parts required for salary.

 

[heyheymymy]

I worry about RWIII health wise. Not sure I want to get into that risk unless it's been cleared.

 

[Chinook]

I don't believe the Spurs are currently trying to trade Castle and don't want them to. But he's not their core until he proves it. As of now, his performance makes him a top prospect, which can be used just as easily for trades than developed. I don't want the team to make a trade worthy of moving Castle or Harper this year. But I do think the team should keep an eye on his market, because Steph is lagging behind both Fox and Harper now despite getting more opportunities than either so far this season.

 

[mo7888]

Please this is the stupidest take ever lets deal reality not fantasy land because you hate castle. The Spurs are not trading a guy they think is a core of the future in year 2 while he has helped them get to the #2 spot in the west even with his roller coaster ride. Lets deal in reality not act like brain dead fans and sports commentators. I think Vassell should be traded but I know right now they are not going to trade him before the deadline because we call that reality. They may make a move but it will be around draft picks then the core players salary wise sochan + Olynyk and any spare parts required for salary.

I dont hate Castle, I think he's the second most valuable player on the team. It's not my fault that your reading compression skills aren't adept enough to understand that. So if you wanna be so dense that you can only think about the most basic takes then talk with someone else about that. This is beyond your ability...

 

[1kangaroo]

I dont hate Castle, I think he's the second most valuable player on the team. It's not my fault that your reading compression skills aren't adept enough to understand that. So if you wanna be so dense that you can only think about the most basic takes then talk with someone else about that. This is beyond your ability...

Please like I said brain dead take

 

[BacktoBasics]

I don't believe the Spurs are currently trying to trade Castle and don't want them to. But he's not their core until he proves it. As of now, his performance makes him a top prospect, which can be used just as easily for trades than developed. I don't want the team to make a trade worthy of moving Castle or Harper this year. But I do think the team should keep an eye on his market, because Steph is lagging behind both Fox and Harper now despite getting more opportunities than either so far this season.

How is castle not a core player? The offensive literally runs through him over Fox. I’d say he’s considered core without question.

 

[Ice009]

How is castle not a core player? The offensive literally runs through him over Fox. I’d say he’s considered core without question.

If you ask me, they seem to be viewing his as one of their top two core players based on the amount of usage he's getting. Not sure if they truly believe in him as a PG, or if this is a test that they have him doing to prove he can play PG. My thoughts are, he wants to play PG and his representation have been telling the team that, and maybe the Spurs FO has given him a chance this season to prove it and/or to see if he can do it. That's probably incorrect, but that is what it seems like from the outside looking in. it just doesn't make sense why they're doing what they're doing with Fox and D-Harper so far this season.

 

[UbikRex]

How is castle not a core player? The offensive literally runs through him over Fox. I’d say he’s considered core without question.

The argument is people might be making is that the offense runs better with castle not being the primary and that the flow is better running through fox.

It's tough because spurs are competing for the playoffs and at the same time trying to develop key players.

You want to see Castle be able to get things to click and reach his ceiling.

I think Castle is more a SG than a point guard. And should develop more into that

Let Wemby Harper and Fox run the offense through them.

 

[mo7888]

Please like I said brain dead take

Anyone who's blessedly unburdended by the complications of thought would conclude that...

 

[scott]

If you ask me, they seem to be viewing his as one of their top two core players based on the amount of usage he's getting. Not sure if they truly believe in him as a PG, or if this is a test that they have him doing to prove he can play PG. My thoughts are, he wants to play PG and his representation have been telling the team that, and maybe the Spurs FO has given him a chance this season to prove it and/or to see if he can do it. That's probably incorrect, but that is what it seems like from the outside looking in. it just doesn't make sense why they're doing what they're doing with Fox and D-Harper so far this season.

This doesn't seem realistic at all. The Spurs wouldn't just say "Steph agent's called and asked to play PG, so let's go ahead and do that". The Spurs are going to do whatever the feel is best for them. I don't see how Castle being the primary ball handler is best for the them in the long run, personally, but maybe it's just a development thing or a load management thing early in the season... who knows... but I definitely don't think they are cow-towing to Castle's team.

 

[Ice009]

The reason I say that is because Castle seems to have been banging on about playing PG since before he was drafted. He played a big part in helping turn the Spurs around last season.

I agree that you're probably right that it's not realistic, but in this case, I can see it being a possibility. Maybe he asks for a trade if they didn't agree to play him at PG?

Then couple that with the fact that Chris Paul likely had an agreement to start all season last season, it seems the Spurs are starting to bend. I never would have expected them to do something like that ever, yet it seems like they promised Chris Paul a starting spot all of last season. It was always you gotta earn your spot and nothing is promised, but it seems to me they have made some promises as recently as last season with CP3. If Castle is really adamant of playing PG, maybe they have tried appeasing him. This would have also happened during the off-season when they had no idea if they'd be a good team or not, so maybe the caved and went along with it. Why has Mitch not taken him off the ball with his recent struggles the past month or so when you have a PG you just gave a max contract to?

 

[scott]

I don't believe the Spurs are currently trying to trade Castle and don't want them to. But he's not their core until he proves it. As of now, his performance makes him a top prospect, which can be used just as easily for trades than developed. I don't want the team to make a trade worthy of moving Castle or Harper this year. But I do think the team should keep an eye on his market, because Steph is lagging behind both Fox and Harper now despite getting more opportunities than either so far this season.

What is your take on why the Spurs seem to be prioritizing Castle as the primary ball handler over the other two, when it's clear to most people the offense runs more efficiently in Fox or Harper's hands? Do you think this is some kind of development exercise? That makes sense on the surface level, but on further introspection its still not logical to me... why not use that energy to develop in ways that better suit the strengths of the other pieces? My only explanation is maybe the feel some on-ball time will make him a better secondary playmaker down the road when he switches to his "long term position"?

Just seems like we've been committed to using all three of the guards in the least optimal way possible all season thus far (save for that stretch in December when we looked unstoppable)

 

[scott]

The reason I say that is because Castle seems to have been banging on about playing PG since before he was drafted. He played a big part in helping turn the Spurs around last season.
I agree that you're probably right that it's not realistic, but in this case, I can see it being a possibility. Maybe he asks for a trade if they didn't agree to play him at PG?
Then couple that with the fact that Chris Paul likely had an agreement to start all season last season, it seems the Spurs are starting to bend. I never would have ever expected them to do something like that. It was always you gotta earn your spot and nothing is promised, but it seems to me they have made some promises as recently as last season with Chris Paul.

I feel like the Spurs are the kind of organization who would respond to threats like these from 2nd year players by just trading them. I don't think the Spurs want to do that at all. I think they like Steph a lot and they have some plan for why they are doing this (that doesn't have ego driven conspiracy behind them)... I just can't figure out what they are... but the Spurs are also way smarter than I am.

 

[100%Duncan]

Spurs definitely see Castle as a core player. The offense and defense (POA) literally both run through him. Whether that is right or wrong is another topic.

 

[Ice009]

Maybe it is a development thing. I don't know. If there wasn't a promise made, I don't see why Mitch hasn't taken him off the ball (at least a little bit and lowered his usage) this past month while he's been struggling badly in some of those games.

 

[TBdog]

Castle offense can obviously be replaced, but he is our point of attack defender. We don't have another one.

 

[SpursBills]

The reason I say that is because Castle seems to have been banging on about playing PG since before he was drafted. He played a big part in helping turn the Spurs around last season.

I agree that you're probably right that it's not realistic, but in this case, I can see it being a possibility. Maybe he asks for a trade if they didn't agree to play him at PG?

Then couple that with the fact that Chris Paul likely had an agreement to start all season last season, it seems the Spurs are starting to bend. I never would have expected them to do something like that ever, yet it seems like they promised Chris Paul a starting spot all of last season. It was always you gotta earn your spot and nothing is promised, but it seems to me they have made some promises as recently as last season with CP3. If Castle is really adamant of playing PG, maybe they have tried appeasing him. This would have also happened during the off-season when they had no idea if they'd be a good team or not, so maybe the caved and went along with it. Why has Mitch not taken him off the ball with his recent struggles the past month or so when you have a PG you just gave a max contract to?

I think once the playoffs start, we'll get the answers to some of these questions.

In theory, Mitch can be doing with Castle exactly what Pop was doing with Sochan - force feed him touches to try and develop him in the regular season to try and unlock something for long term benefit. Spurs may still be treating this year as a "development year" with the goal of making the playoffs. They've blasted past that goal so far, so they feel like they have a cushion to experiment, and force feeding Castle and trying to unlock his on-ball creation is one part of the development process. No idea wtf they're doing with Harper's minutes, but if they feel like Harper had a ton of on-ball reps in college, they might try and develop him as an off-ball weapon first, again to have him do something he's not used to to make him a more 'well rounded' player. Personally, I'm not sure why they're not just giving Castle the Dejounte Murray treatment, especially with Mitch's close relationship with Murray and his successful development - have Castle lean into becoming a defensive weapon first, then gradually feed him on-ball touches over time as his jumper improves.

Then once you hit late regular season into the playoffs and the games start mattering, shift a lot more playmaking burden to Fox and dial Castle's on ball usage back to maximize your chances of winning games. Pop teams were famous for having mediocre regular seasons where they'd underperform, then ramping up closer to the playoffs and Mitch may be doing some weird variation of that where he's keeping everyone's minutes down for most of the regular season and slowly ramping up as the season goes on. I don't know, this might be pure cope on my part, we'll see what happens later in the season.