Trade Spurs Trade Ideas

[Ariel]

A lot of those contracts lower than his increase in salary every year. This is the point y’all don’t seem to understand. Vassell‘s contract dips and otherwise stays the same, so he will slide down the payroll list anyway.

Vassell's contract represents 17.5%, 15.9%, 13.2% and 13.1% of the cap each year, which would make him the 65th, 78th, 89th and 89th best paid player in the league respectively. So not sure what's your point when my argument holds even accounting for what you point out (which every poster here probably knows, BTW)
https://www.spotrac.com/nba/rankings/player/_/year/2025/sort/cap_total_league_pct

 

[Exstatic]

Agree mostly.
Although the team might take a bit of a rebounding hit once fox is back, as you'll see less minutes for castle/champ/ Barnes who are better rebounders than fox

Barnes is a pretty poor rebounder. His career avg. is 4.8. Fox’s is 3.9. You don’t lose much with a direct substitution.

 

[scott]

sochan is bench depth?

Bench depth that is happy to play 15 min/game, and even only occasionally. Not bench depth that probably thinks they should be starting (and some fans think should be starting).

I think you underestimate the value of his hustle and general energy. It’s been awhile since he’s been on the court. You can’t flip him for two rotation players so I’m not sure you’d be gaining depth.

It’s super encouraging to see our guys embrace their roles and if Sochan shows the same willingness to get in where he fits in. Then I think he’ll show some real value.

I completely understand the deficiencies but this roster is finally at a place where a guy like him can show some value without having to show too much.

Just be a good connector, capitalize on hustle momentum and play good defense.

These things are not inherent in run of the mill bottom feeding contracts.

Everyone here seems to want to come off the power of friendship but two out of the three are rounding out this roster in ways we haven’t seen in some time.

We are not going to ring with a temu contract bench. We need guys who can step up when others are out too.

I think we’d be making a mistake gutting our team for contract reasons. Unless it’s a significant upgrade we should ride this out for awhile.

I don't think I underestimate anything. I think Jeremy's best role would be as a sporadic hustle player. Like I said above, the occasional 15 mpg, but not an every game rotation player.

However, I don't think he'll be happy with that, and I don't think a significant portion of the fanbase will be either. If that roster spot is going to be used by a role player, I'd honestly just rather it be one of a different archetype. Haywood Highsmith is doing nothing for BKN (is he hurt?) give me someone like him.

You say we aren't going to run with a temu contract bench... I also don't think we're going to ring with temu Dennis Rodman. Actually we might if he's sitting next to Bismack waving a towel, but not if he's playing a real role on the team.

As a hater I'll say that if Devin can keep playing on this level his contract won't be an issue.
But only if he continues being engaged on defense and doesn't disappear on offense.

17ppg and 40% from 3pt on 6 attempts is worth 25-30 a year if the player isn't a negative on defense.

I disagree, his contract will be an issue no matter how he performs, because he's going to be the 4th/5th option in a starting lineup or a 6th man. The only scenario where his contact will make sense is if he's the team's 3rd best player... which will mean something went horribly wrong with two or more of Fox/Harper/Castle.

Devin is great so far this season, I've actually graded him higher than the community through 5 games (4.40 vs 3.94). His contract is fine for the next two years, but the last two years of his deal it becomes quite problematic, no matter how we slice it. This isn't even necessarily Devin's fault or his contract's fault, it's because since Devin signed that deal we've added 3 players behind Wemby who are/project to be better than him and will need to get paid.

 

[LeBowen]

I disagree, his contract will be an issue no matter how he performs, because he's going to be the 4th/5th option in a starting lineup or a 6th man. The only scenario where his contact will make sense is if he's the team's 3rd best player... which will mean something went horribly wrong with two or more of Fox/Harper/Castle.

Devin is great so far this season, I've actually graded him higher than the community through 5 games (4.40 vs 3.94). His contract is fine for the next two years, but the last two years of his deal it becomes quite problematic, no matter how we slice it. This isn't even necessarily Devin's fault or his contract's fault, it's because since Devin signed that deal we've added 3 players behind Wemby who are/project to be better than him and will need to get paid.

It won't be an issue in a sense that it won't be a negative asset.
If Devin can continue playing like this, we'll have no issues moving him if needed because of cap situation.

If he doesn't and goes back to his usual level, we'll have to salary dump him and pay for it.

 

[Nike.]

First time poster, lurked the old site since 04ish.

I agree that Vassell should be the only player worth trading in the near future (Sochan obv if they don't plan on extending him). Any wing that could start or at the least get minutes that expires after next season alongside KJ would work.

I'm big on Andrew Wiggins and De'Andre Hunter. Miami seems to like Wiggins, though. Cavs fanbase has been debating whether to have Hunter come off the bench in favor of Struss for more offense. They also don't know how they'll be able to extend Hunter which is a problem we'd inherit. But he could be getable if they run into apron issues in the next year.

Trey Murphy I don't think makes sense anymore. Doesn't help the cap issue in a few years and actually makes more than Vassell when it matters.

This seasons version of Patrick Williams I like and would consider a swap, especially if Chicago added any kind of draft compensation. How much production do the Spurs lose with Williams out there instead of Vassell? Same years with less money.

I think Nic Claxton is worth looking at if you think he can rotate to the 4. Can guard every position except for big centers which would be Wemby's assignment anyway. Fast and athletic in the fast break, always crashes the boards. Depth insurance in case Wemby/Kornet miss any time. He was top10 in the league for rebounds and blocks a few years ago, his numbers dropped last season with lower back issues that's since healed apparently. Defensively the Spurs would reach a different tier with Claxton over Barnes. A better/taller version of Sochan. Offensively he can't shoot and has a low FT percentage so that would be the easy reason to say no. That said, the fanbase is ready to move on from him since they brought him back just to trade down the road anyway and Vassell would still be producing for them by the time they finish their tank era. At his declining salary, I think Claxton is worth considering (even if it's ultimately a no).

It's probably best to let the season play out. We haven't even seen the team fully healthy. A first round exit in the playoffs will better expose the teams weaknesses (likely shooting) for the front office. Maybe Vassell raises his stock for the summer and can bring a better return when there is a better market.

 

[scott]

It won't be an issue in a sense that it won't be a negative asset.
If Devin can continue playing like this, we'll have no issues moving him if needed because of cap situation.

If he doesn't and goes back to his usual level, we'll have to salary dump him and pay for it.

Okay yeah, I agree with that. But yeah, after two years that deal will need to be moved one way or another. We won't be able to have one guy making $27MM with Fox and Wemby on Max deals and Castle on whatever his extension will be with Dylan's looming the following summer. We'll need to turn Devin's salary into 2+ players. Nothing against Devin, that's just the way things have developed.

 

[CGD]

I don’t ever want to hear MPJ and trade talk again. This guy is constantly injured and on top of that a complete bonehead.

Rui would be a nice fit here.

I just wish Rui wasn’t complete ass on D

 

[Exstatic]

It won't be an issue in a sense that it won't be a negative asset.
If Devin can continue playing like this, we'll have no issues moving him if needed because of cap situation.

If he doesn't and goes back to his usual level, we'll have to salary dump him and pay for it.

No one on the top 100 list will need to be salary dumped. It’s also a pre-season list, so it was not based on this years performance.

 

[DTW]

I honestly think the odds of any kind of meaningful trade are like 5%. The players most of you want are stars, and we already have THE star, and their contracts would destroy our depth.

Patrick Williams is an overpaid version of Keldon.

I'd say a younger Barnes.

The logic would be: They can pay probably $25-30 million annually to re-sign Barnes and Sochan or $18 million to Williams and kill two birds with one stone.

I agree any trade is highly unlikely, but this is the type I could see if Sochan still can't shoot and Williams stays healthy and playing solid.

 

[Shmurs]

Vassell's contract represents 17.5%, 15.9%, 13.2% and 13.1% of the cap each year, which would make him the 65th, 78th, 89th and 89th best paid player in the league respectively. So not sure what's your point when my argument holds even accounting for what you point out (which every poster here probably knows, BTW)
https://www.spotrac.com/nba/rankings/player/_/year/2025/sort/cap_total_league_pct

4 years from now he will be the 120-140th best player, though. We’re seeing he’s not nearly as good as the high end rookie taleny. Theres going to be 4-5 of those every year. Hes overpaid by a moderate amount now and will continue to be overpaid by a moderate amount.

This is the issue with that calculus. You act like the percentages are fixed but nothing else is. It’s just a bad contract - even right now with how he’s playing.

 

[CGD]

I think the goal here is to bridge the time until Carter Bryant can become the full time starter. HB is a fine bridge until then. Question is whether it’s a year thing or 3 year thing.

The more interesting Qs for me all involve Sochan tbh.