Game Thread Spurs (5-0) @ Suns (2-4) (Sun 11/02/25) [7:00PM CDT]

- damn that looked like low energy blood cloth Wemby tbh ... he could not do anything against a bunch of nobodies
- Harper was the only positive until he got injured ... calf thingies suck
- Castle was solid but could not stop Booker as I envisioned
- Luka will light up the Spurs so bad on Wednesday ... they will think its Christmas already
 
Wemby_Island said:
Man - i have my worries about Wemby.

In lot of plays Wemby was not even able to cross the half court from O to D.

He seemed gassed today :(
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He has his part obviously but the real worrisome part isn't about him but the roster. (and the inexperienced coach)

He's going to get doubled or more almost every game and 2 bigs lineups are going to become common.

We don't have the personnel to face that, Kornet is not enough to be backup and associated with Vic, Olynick isn't the solution either.

We don't have reliable shooters nor solid wings to spread enough to limit the paint being packed.

It can get a lot worse now that there's a fear factor with all the fuss the media are doing about Wemby.
 
only caught parts of it live. really tough to watch games on weekends.

i think this team definitely needed a "kick in the teeth" game, but i was just hoping it would come from a better team than Phoenix. im not mad at all about having a 5-0 start, but the media was waxing poetic about wemby and the team, and frankly, most of the wins were not clean. pelicans took us to OT and we needed a Harper-led comeback to even survive that. nets came back and even took a late lead. raptors game was fairly clean but even they came back from more than down 10 to within 8 with more than 5 to go. miami game was tough, and while we did take a big lead in the 3rd, they came back and took a lead in the 4th. celebrating the miami win like they closed a playoff series, both with Vic's extreme emotion after wiggins foul and then addressing the crowd... bush league

here, phoenix controlled the game from start to finish and it was never really competitive other than one nice run led by Harper. really ugly game and the only guy who showed up was Castle, at least offensively. worst games of the season from each of Wemby, Vassell, and Champagnie. somehow we were only a -3 in Vic's minutes and he wasnt even good.

aside from being a reality check for the team, that was just another reminder that Fox is going to be a huge part of the team to provide a legitimate and consistent scoring punch on a nightly basis

of course the biggest story by far is Harper's injury. being snap ruled out and being in crutches and a boot really doesn't bode well for anything resembling a near future return. i'd guess at least 2-3 months. hope im wrong.
 
scott said:
WTF, they just announced the Spurs are going to be running busses from Austin for $25 for home games… is San Antonio really unable to sell out the arena? Maybe they don’t deserve a team.
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Is that what Sean was talking about. I heard him say something about buses, but I wasn't really listening. I commented about those empty seats last week. If this is true, SA doesn't deserve an NBA team.

Mugen said:
Anybody in the we should trade Fox within the next 2 years camp should be forced to watch this game on repeat tbh.
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Fox might actually ask to be traded before then if the Spurs aren't a contender. I don't see him wanting to stick around if the Spurs don't build a contending team in the next two years. He's getting up there in age.
Fireball said:
- damn that looked like low energy blood cloth Wemby tbh ... he could not do anything against a bunch of nobodies
- Harper was the only positive until he got injured ... calf thingies suck
- Castle was solid but could not stop Booker as I envisioned
- Luka will light up the Spurs so bad on Wednesday ... they will think its Christmas already
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Terrible game, Victor did not look good. I hope he's alright physically. I also hope they didn't just come up with a blueprint on how to defend the Spurs and him with this game.

I thought Steph played a solid overall game. He did not quit when the game looked to be over. Kept fighting. Dylan played great up until what happened to him which sucks even more that he's now out for who knows how long.

PanameSpur said:
He has his part obviously but the real worrisome part isn't about him but the roster. (and the inexperienced coach)

He's going to get doubled or more almost every game and 2 bigs lineups are going to become common.

We don't have the personnel to face that, Kornet is not enough to be backup and associated with Vic, Olynick isn't the solution either.

We don't have reliable shooters nor solid wings to spread enough to limit the paint being packed.

It can get a lot worse now that there's a fear factor with all the fuss the media are doing about Wemby.
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I hope the Spurs haven't been exposed. I knew not having shooters was likely to bite them in the ass. I couldn't stand watching Vassell out there jacking up shot after shot when the game was up for grabs and missing most of them. No backup centers really made me want Sochan back as I'd rather he play center than to see Bismack out there again. Not looking forward to the Lakers and Rockets games now. If none of the other guys are back, this could be embarrassing if they play anywhere close to this again. I don't think they have the personnel to play better, though. Harper out is going to hurt a lot.
 
The old "Oh no, someone just breached the three point line, so I've got to rotate over to help and leave my man completely open" defense reared its ugly head again in this game.
Wemby looked weirdly flat in every regard. Hopefully that was just a one-off thing for him. Overall, our guys just seemed slow and sluggish compared to a Suns team that looked sharp and ready to play. Even so, the game might have gone differently if our shooters hadn't missed so many decent looks from downtown. I mean, it's not a good sign when Castle is basically your best shooter in a game ...
 
LeBowen said:
What the fuck is that from McL?
He's supposed to be a good shooter, he had two horrible bricks and an airball from wide open shots.
I could've had the same contribution if I was out there in his place.
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Tre Jones is shooting something like 60% from three point range (not including last night's Bulls game, and on low volume). Overall, I think since he's been with the Bulls, for whatever reason, he's shot way better than when he was with the Spurs.

The Ballsbreakers said:
If Vic had Castle's mindset and drive he'd be downright impossible to stop.
Sadly he seems a tad like Boris Diaw at times.
Just... nonchalant (but pronounced like the way the French do).
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It's looking like fatigue to me, but I'm not sure. I don't like the way he's looked the past couple of games. I hope it's nothing to worry about on the physical side.

LeBowen said:
Agreed.

We can talk about them not finding Wemby early on, but he got the ball plenty of times and just got pushed out of position every time.
But then again, I hoped we have enough firepower even when Wemby struggles, but Devin has done absolutely nothing as the supposed second best scorer in the lineup.

Harper was the only one deserving of a passing grade tonight.
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Pretty good summary of what happened. Not sure if the Spurs should try and trade Vassell. I was all for trying to keep this group together for a full season, but I'm not sure if the Spurs should pass up an opportunity to trade some of these guys if there is a decent offer. It seems they're trying to follow the OKC model, problem is, none of these guys they're wanting to keep have shown they could be anywhere near as good as their OKC counterparts. Not sure who you'd compare Devin, Julian, Harrison to on OKC, but I'd likely take OKC's counterpart without even thinking about it for a second.
 
if it was just regular old fatigue from Vic, that’s a wrap on this team doing anything and him being a meaningful pro player.

6 games in with a lot of rest and a 21 year old body means you don’t look like you just ran a marathon at the end of the first quarter. He’s either screwed up, health-wise or this is a whole different thing than we thought over the last week.

The whole team looked functionally retarded so I don’t know if they had a fire alarm at the hotel or the big bad PA system in Phoenix scared them or who knows.
 
All that matters is Harper's health. The only spark along with Steph who played hard at least. Wemby obviously was off,
 
John B said:
One lost and all the bitches came out :ROFLMAO:
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Have you been watching the games? The Spurs aren't exactly playing good teams and they also haven't been playing well, and to top all that off, one of our current 3 best players (Dylan Harper) looks like he might be out for a while with a serious injury. He was also looking like the best player on the court for the Spurs in the Suns game. It's not exactly looking good.


Shmurs said:
if it was just regular old fatigue from Vic, that’s a wrap on this team doing anything and him being a meaningful pro player.

6 games in with a lot of rest and a 21 year old body means you don’t look like you just ran a marathon at the end of the first quarter. He’s either screwed up, health-wise or this is a whole different thing than we thought over the last week.

The whole team looked functionally retarded so I don’t know if they had a fire alarm at the hotel or the big bad PA system in Phoenix scared them or who knows.
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If it's fatigue (especially after having two days off), you could be right that it doesn't bode well moving forward. When the Spurs came super close to getting the number 1 pick, it's one reason I really wanted Cooper Flagg. I wasn't sure about the DVT and all that going forward, and I thought if the Spurs were able to get Cooper, he can be the franchise guy moving forward if Victor's health doesn't hold up. Dylan's looking great too as a possible franchise guy, but I also don't know about his health as he seems to pick up injuries :(. He's already had multiple ones that go from before he was drafted until now. Hopefully in Dylan's case it's because he hadn't played much this year and he couldn't practice until before training camp and maybe his body has been pushed hard in a short amount of time. I can take the losses as long as it's not health related stuff that is going to hinder these guys.

It's the two days off between these past couple of games for Vic that has me a little concerned. I don't know why he's looking this tired. TD and Manu both used to look a lot fresher anytime they had a couple of days off between games.
 
I tell ya I don’t really have an appetite for him to do a shit load of work to get position down low with the ball only for him to fling it out to someone shooting a 3. The math says 75% chance of 2 is better than 35% chance at 3. Knock it the F off.

Similarly - how are we back to missing him on lobs and zipping it OVER him to someone who then misses a 3. You don’t bypass Vic.

This was so freaking terrible.
 
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It feels good to be upset about a loss and to see the reactions. It reminds me of the old days.
Seeing post like Fox might want to request a trade, we're going to lose the next few games, we have a terrible roster, etc.

We are definitely back baby!
 
The league has seen the blueprint on how to Handle wemby now!!
Mitch & the staff hasta create a game plan on how to deal w dbl & trpl teams on wemby & wemby needs to b more aggressive & assertive & not hang around the 3 all nite.

On to the next... Beat LA!
 
Wemby and the whole team seemed remarkably unprepared for a defense that sends multiple defenders to Wemby whenever he has the ball and consistently shades toward him otherwise. They got flustered, off script, and starting rushing. It didn’t help that they clank every open shot when they got the proper ball movement. The good news is that the coaching staff can in theory use this as a learning experience to better handle this kind of defensive look, but obvious the major concern is the spurs just don’t have the shooting weapons to make teams pay for playing like this
 
Very interesting seeing Jake LaRivia go off so far. A few Spurs fans said the team should try and get him. Whoever that was, looks like you had a good idea of his talent.


TDomination said:
It feels good to be upset about a loss and to see the reactions. It reminds me of the old days.
Seeing post like Fox might want to request a trade, we're going to lose the next few games, we have a terrible roster, etc.

We are definitely back baby!
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If you're referring to my comment on Fox, it's got nothing to do with last night's game. There's multiple reasons I mentioned it. First, I was sick of seeing the disrespect around here. Only a few posters (including myself) have stuck up for him (I've been saying he's going to be awesome for the team when he's fully healthy and back - hopefully that is soon). There's countless posts saying the Spurs should trade him anywhere from next year, 2 years, 3 years etc. before he's even played a game this season. That is disgusting and quite frankly, it's pissing me off. I'm going to start looking out for Fox because it's quite apparent many fans don't give a shit about him or respect that he wanted to be on the Spurs.

Exstatic is one of the posters (there is a few others) being realistic about it that they might have to trade him down the line, but not right away like some here are clamouring for. It's had to be mentioned numerous time on ST that De'Aaron asked to be traded here and the Spurs would never just trade him in a year or so after he forced his way to San Antonio. The Spurs FO makes some dumb decisions sometimes, but they wouldn't do this and blow their chances with future free agents.

Now, the reason I mentioned De'Aaron might ask for a trade is because I saw someone bring up on a podcast or another discussion (can't remember where) that he wanted to go to the Spurs because he wanted to get off of the Kings due to them not looking like they will be a contender and that they were heading in the wrong direction. It was mentioned that (and I somewhat agree) the Spurs aren't really a contender right now and that maybe De'Aaron would be better off on a team like Houston (just an example) that can contend now. If the Spurs don't get it together in a year or two, it's not unreasonable that De'Aaron might not want to waste his prime on a team that isn't a true/legit championship contender. He's not old, but he is older than the young core the Spurs have and it was mentioned that he might be better suited (timeline wise) on a team that can contend now. I thought it was an interesting perspective and I don't know De'Aaron's mindset and how badly he wants a chance to play for a Championship, so that is why I said he might want to get traded at some point if the Spurs aren't contending.
 
Ice009 said:
Very interesting seeing Jake LaRivia go off so far. A few Spurs fans said the team should try and get him. Whoever that was, looks like you had a good idea of his talent.




If you're referring to my comment on Fox, it's got nothing to do with last night's game. There's multiple reasons I mentioned it. First, I was sick of seeing the disrespect around here. Only a few posters (including myself) have stuck up for him (I've been saying he's going to be awesome for the team when he's fully healthy and back - hopefully that is soon). There's countless posts saying the Spurs should trade him anywhere from next year, 2 years, 3 years etc. before he's even played a game this season. That is disgusting and quite frankly, it's pissing me off. I'm going to start looking out for Fox because it's quite apparent many fans don't give a shit about him or respect that he wanted to be on the Spurs.

Exstatic is one of the posters (there is a few others) being realistic about it that they might have to trade him down the line, but not right away like some here are clamouring for. It's had to be mentioned numerous time on ST that De'Aaron asked to be traded here and the Spurs would never just trade him in a year or so after he forced his way to San Antonio. The Spurs FO makes some dumb decisions sometimes, but they wouldn't do this and blow their chances with future free agents.

Now, the reason I mentioned De'Aaron might ask for a trade is because I saw someone bring up on a podcast or another discussion (can't remember where) that he wanted to go to the Spurs because he wanted to get off of the Kings due to them not looking like they will be a contender and that they were heading in the wrong direction. It was mentioned that (and I somewhat agree) the Spurs aren't really a contender right now and that maybe De'Aaron would be better off on a team like Houston (just an example) that can contend now. If the Spurs don't get it together in a year or two, it's not unreasonable that De'Aaron might not want to waste his prime on a team that isn't a true/legit championship contender. He's not old, but he is older than the young core the Spurs have and it was mentioned that he might be better suited (timeline wise) on a team that can contend now. I thought it was an interesting perspective and I don't know De'Aaron's mindset and how badly he wants a chance to play for a Championship, so that is why I said he might want to get traded at some point if the Spurs aren't contending.
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Its crazy...That jake mentioned spurs by name this offseason ,That he would like to join a young team on the rise like the spurs.
But of course we showed no interest in trying to get him.Then he signed a cheap contract with the lakers.
 
onechance87 said:
Its crazy...That jake mentioned spurs by name this offseason ,That he would like to join a young team on the rise like the spurs.
But of course we showed no interest in trying to get him.Then he signed a cheap contract with the lakers.
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Darn, that sucks. I had no idea he actually wanted to play for the Spurs. I wonder if the Spurs FO looked into it.
 
Ice009 said:
Have you been watching the games? The Spurs aren't exactly playing good teams and they also haven't been playing well, and to top all that off, one of our current 3 best players (Dylan Harper) looks like he might be out for a while with a serious injury. He was also looking like the best player on the court for the Spurs in the Suns game. It's not exactly looking good.




If it's fatigue (especially after having two days off), you could be right that it doesn't bode well moving forward. When the Spurs came super close to getting the number 1 pick, it's one reason I really wanted Cooper Flagg. I wasn't sure about the DVT and all that going forward, and I thought if the Spurs were able to get Cooper, he can be the franchise guy moving forward if Victor's health doesn't hold up. Dylan's looking great too as a possible franchise guy, but I also don't know about his health as he seems to pick up injuries :(. He's already had multiple ones that go from before he was drafted until now. Hopefully in Dylan's case it's because he hadn't played much this year and he couldn't practice until before training camp and maybe his body has been pushed hard in a short amount of time. I can take the losses as long as it's not health related stuff that is going to hinder these guys.

It's the two days off between these past couple of games for Vic that has me a little concerned. I don't know why he's looking this tired. TD and Manu both used to look a lot fresher anytime they had a couple of days off between games.
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Aside from the injury on Dylan which sucks, everything is where I expected them to be. Sure the 5-0 spoiled some of us. But they were missing Kornet that would’ve put more pressure on Suns not to double-team Wemby with how Kornet rolls to the basket. On top of other people missing including Fox. It’s good that they got their embarrassing loss early. There’s still a lot of work to be done. So hopefully they look at the tapes and adjust.
 
Ice009 said:
Darn, that sucks. I had no idea he actually wanted to play for the Spurs. I wonder if the Spurs FO looked into it.
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I doubt it.Spurs seem committed to keldon,sochan,champ and barnes and vassell.Then we just drafted bryant this offseason.
Always felt he would be perfect to help wemby for a role player.A big foward whos a decent defender and can knock down open shots.
 
watching Vic’s post game stuff…what the fuck is happening here. sounds half asleep. Did someone else have a stroke at shoot around?
 
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