Game Thread Spurs (31-14) vs Pelicans (11-36) (Sun 1/25/26) [6:00PM CDT]

Agree, which is why I think they need to be looking at a Dirk-type offensive attack. Simplify at the high-post so he can read the defense, take a shot over the top or drive after a shot fake or close out. Opens up high-post passing, as well.
Not sure if anyone notice as well. But Wemby's passing seems to regress. He has some shown good court vision and passing during his rookie year which he average around 4 asts. Now in his 3rd year, it is almost every possession he got lead to either him taking the shots or passing out from a tough double team.
 
also, all 4 games against NOP were bad for us

we first played them very early in the season. choked a big lead, actually went down (as i recall) a double digits in the 4th quarter and dylan harper sparked a comeback. we won in OT

second game we played them was Fox's season debut. Fox played solid ball individually and we had a comfortable lead for much of the game. of course gave it all up and Pelicans stormed back behind Queen and the spurs barely snuck away with a win. i believe we may have trailed at one point in the closing minutes too

third game was another game where they had a late lead, and harper made the game winning layup to escape with a win

and then 4th game was here where they took control of the game in the 2nd quarter and they didnt let up. we stormed a big comeback and even took a lead, but they closed.

really could have been a 4-0 or 0-4 series. no comfortable games against them
 
Not sure if anyone notice as well. But Wemby's passing seems to regress. He has some shown good court vision and passing during his rookie year which he average around 4 asts. Now in his 3rd year, it is almost every possession he got lead to either him taking the shots or passing out from a tough double team.
I think it all goes to the lack of a consistent point of attack. He’s got so many tools and options, and a want to be unique and different, that every possession becomes a chose-your-adventure.

He needs direction and accountability. Someone that says: This is where you work, we orbit around you. You don’t do your job, it all falls apart.

That’s when everything slows down, you make the correct reads and take the best shots, because you know where everyone is and where everyone can attack from.

He needs a coach, not a friend. Hell, the whole team does.
 
They forgot how they were winning without Wemby, they moved the ball. The last two loses, they had Wemby playing heroics. Sometimes it would work, but crazy when it doesn’t. I feel Dylan has the best chances of moving the ball with his ball creation and finding the open man. Mitch needs to grow some cajones to make the call. This can be a very very good team with the 3-guard offense plus Wemby. Move the ball!
 
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As annoying as the missed FTs were, this stuff is usually flukey. More disconcerting to me were all the offensive boards for the Pelicans which resulted in them having 21 (!) more FGA than the Spurs.
I actually thought that the offense at the start of the game looked better and more fluid than it often has recently - minus the fact that Wemby wasn't involved much, though. Maybe the coaching staff should try to simplify things somewhat and just focus on playing through Fox and Wemby early on in games to establish a rhythm for the two best offensive players on the team. To me, it looked like Wemby later shot too many threes partly because he felt he wasn't going to get involved offensively otherwise.
By the way, that was a sick dunk from Zion early on in the 4th quarter!
 
Losing after having a meltdown in Houston and barely beating the Jazz that sat their best player so they can lose. And after 3 days of analysis and preparation, this is what our coaching staff comes up with.
Houston is a playoff team. Barely winning is a billion times better than losing. Does not compute
 
It was as bad as blowing the minny and Houston games while up 20. Jazz and Portland Ls at home we’re just as bad
Every one of those teams is better than 11-36 and Spurs players were missing from them.

This is undisputed worst loss of the season so far.
 
Houston is a playoff team. Barely winning is a billion times better than losing. Does not compute
Yeah, we see all the good barely winning did for us.
Just postponed another one of Mitch's "valuable lessons" until the next game.
 
The mark of team that hasn't actually embraced the mundane.

Just do what works, who cares if it's repetitive or boring.
I’ve watched Sean for20+ years, and he used to say this about our opponents:
“ young teams just need to learn how to close out games”.
 
also, all 4 games against NOP were bad for us

we first played them very early in the season. choked a big lead, actually went down (as i recall) a double digits in the 4th quarter and dylan harper sparked a comeback. we won in OT

second game we played them was Fox's season debut. Fox played solid ball individually and we had a comfortable lead for much of the game. of course gave it all up and Pelicans stormed back behind Queen and the spurs barely snuck away with a win. i believe we may have trailed at one point in the closing minutes too

third game was another game where they had a late lead, and harper made the game winning layup to escape with a win

and then 4th game was here where they took control of the game in the 2nd quarter and they didnt let up. we stormed a big comeback and even took a lead, but they closed.

really could have been a 4-0 or 0-4 series. no comfortable games against them
This is the scary part. The lack of preparation & adjustments from our coaching staff against a league bottom feeder doesn't bode well for the playoffs. Not blowing out this scrub team once is a disgrace.
 
it's weird/sad is that
This is the scary part. The lack of preparation & adjustments from our coaching staff against a league bottom feeder doesn't bode well for the playoffs. Not blowing out this scrub team once is a disgrace.

we’re weak with respect to every tenet of the modern NBA lol—shooting 3s, defending 3s, dealing with length
 
This is the scary part. The lack of preparation & adjustments from our coaching staff against a league bottom feeder doesn't bode well for the playoffs. Not blowing out this scrub team once is a disgrace.
25th ORTG over the past 15 games.
29th 3pt% in that period, just Raptors are worse.
 
:st-lmao: two days of rest
:st-lmao:at home
:st-lmao:11-36 Pelicans on B2B
:st-lol: "We are just missing Vassell"

:st-lol: det Fox extension is going to be so ugly
:st-lol: "Best backcourt in the league"
:st-lol:How is our shooting coach not fired yet after all these years
:st-lol: Mitch Johnson getting this job without open interviews
I don't think people realize how horrendous this loss is factoring all conditions; it is almost like the team is one-upping itself in terms of finding more bad ways to lay an egg. This feels bigger than a momentary malaise and more of structural rottenness..This is about pre-game preparation including putting the necessary mental groundwork (what happened to the 'appropriate fear' mantra? The Pelicans have played you close three times and have no incentive to tank, why are you looking past them?)
 
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I'm trying not to let the disappointment and frustration from last night, and recent games, spill over into my ability to enjoy this 20degree weather in Austin. We are at a turning point in the season, or so it seems. Height, length and physicality bother us. Teams with those traits can just manhandle us and get us to live behind the 3pt line because we are not able to succeed in the paint. I'm starting to wonder about chain of command issues on the court. At times, it seems like Castle is leading the offense, at others I see Fox calling plays and directing traffic, other times it's Wemby doing what he wants. The problem I'm starting to see is role clarity for everyone. Those 3 are often forcing too much and calling their own number way too much and early in the shot clock. A long way to go to learn how to win tough games on the regular. It almost looks like the coaches have pulled each player aside and said you're the guy you have the green light and then when one of the others is calling their own number the other 2 become passive. Anyway, I'm seeing some human dynamics issues that will take a while to fix.

The container seems to have morphed from where it was pre-Christmas. Coaching-wise it's hard to commend anything on the offensive side of the ball. Defensively, we are alright. Good enough to win. Effort, physicality and focus are waning rapidly. Last night looked like a game where the coach had a very vague, repetitive gameplay and the team executed exactly that. Mitch seems scared to me. The folded arms signal self-protective pose and he's stiff and frozen much of the time. He's in over his head, it's obvious.

Don't even get me started on Harper. Just criminal to bench your best player after a huge comeback when the guy who replaces him is in a major slump and hurting the team.
 
The first play of the game summed it up for me…

Good off-ball motion, ball movement is fantastic, then the ball finds Castle and he switches the offense to an ISO drive, gets stymied, bricks a mid-range jumper with plenty of time on the shot clock.

Castle is in a really bad place right now and we’re feeding right into it.

Trading for and maxing Fox to play off-ball SG is a mistake of epic proportions. Maybe this will be a lessen to us all in the Trade Idea Threads, that any idea needs to be scrutinized against what it will look like when the Spurs completely misuse the acquired player.
 
We've seen this team step up, so I know it's in there. Feels like we do a great job playing "down" to our level of competition and the Pelicans game is a great example.

The OG championship level Spurs teams would have stretches like this, and games like this, and we'd forgive them because we knew that once games started to matter that they could step up. We don't know that about this group, yet. Hard to bring it throughout a grueling 82 game schedule, but yes, this one was disappointing for sure.

I'll be curious to see if we see them ramp up intensity a little bit once we get into March and move closer to the post season.
 
We've seen this team step up, so I know it's in there. Feels like we do a great job playing "down" to our level of competition and the Pelicans game is a great example.

The OG championship level Spurs teams would have stretches like this, and games like this, and we'd forgive them because we knew that once games started to matter that they could step up. We don't know that about this group, yet. Hard to bring it throughout a grueling 82 game schedule, but yes, this one was disappointing for sure.

I'll be curious to see if we see them ramp up intensity a little bit once we get into March and move closer to the post season.
It's easy to attribute everything to intensity.
Young teams need to be I won't say micromanaged, but coached way harder than veteran teams.
I'm not going to blame the players because for the most part it looks like they're left to their own devices on offense.
You can't say Castle isn't trying hard. He's effectively trying to go head first through the wall because the coaches told him to pound the rock. He doesn't know any better.

Can't be compared with proven, championship rosters that don't really have anything to prove in the regular season.
 
Just some food for thought. Let me get this out of the way first, Castle is my fav player but he is just in a huge slump at this point 😣. I was in denial for several games and finally came to the realization he’s hurting us at times. I was very encouraged for a few possessions at the start of the game with Fox initiating and the Spurs look better in the first few minutes. Then it went south quickly. I thought Castle had some really good passes as secondary playmaker without turnovers in the beginning. In fact, I thought he was very measured going into the lane and dishing out instead of forcing his way a few times. Hopefully that’s a coaching point going forward.

I would have said that that I'm a top 5 Castle fan up until the past couple of weeks, but he's starting to lose me. The turnovers, the piss poor decision making trying to bully his way to the rim to draw the foul. I can live a little bit with him not hitting shots, but he also stopped taking that mid-range shot, which I believe is a huge key to him being anywhere close to an all-star level player on offense. He is playing dumb. I don't like players who are trying to just draw the foul. Manu and D-Wade, I loved their games because they were looking to finish/score and draw the foul as a bonus. Castle's looking like he just wants to get the contact and draw the foul, not even looking to finish on some of those plays, and that's just not the type of game I like. It's closer to those foul baiters like prime James Harden.

I didn't want to say it as I was hoping he'd turn the corner and I wanted to believe the best in him, but in those workout videos where he can't even string a few shots in a row to go in, it's the absolute sign of someone that has zero feel for shooting the ball. Now, I did give him the benefit of the doubt as I thought maybe they've got the bad stuff on video (which actually I thought was really good if they showed that rather than him excelling and hitting shots) and he's actually able to string a bunch of shots in a row, but I'm not there to see the whole workout and his shooting, so I thought I shouldn't comment. I'm not starting to think there wasn't too many moments where he is stringing 5-10 shots to go in a row.

Wtf was the coaching tap thinking when that second unit brought them back and then totally despairingly keeping them on the bench. Absolutely gave me a headache. A bright spot, CB has given me some hope the last two or three games. Has really brought the energy and played very very well off the bench. He still needs some run in the G league though.

Exactly what I was saying. That was one of the worse points of the game. Those reserves played with energy and brought them back, the Mitch decides bench most of them and finish off with Castle who had done nothing to earn the right to close that game out.

It’s pretty obvious the Spurs success coincides with their shooting three at a decent clip. We were horrific again there tonight, and the worst of the season at the stripe. The latter point is unacceptable for sure. FT’s cost us a game basically. My wife looked at me as I was yelling WTF for fucking 4 FT’s missed in a row by Victor and KJ. TBH, I’m not hopeful at the deadline of solving the perimeter shooting issue. Although I have thought about going to church and praying (🤣).

I actually wasn't too mad at those 4 missed free throws. As it was happening, I was saying "good, you don't deserve this win." The basketball gods said no way are we letting you win this game when you've played this poorly and didn't put anywhere near the right effort to win. They didn't respect their opponent, the didn't match them, and lost to a team with one of the worst records in the league.
 
We've seen this team step up, so I know it's in there. Feels like we do a great job playing "down" to our level of competition and the Pelicans game is a great example.

The OG championship level Spurs teams would have stretches like this, and games like this, and we'd forgive them because we knew that once games started to matter that they could step up. We don't know that about this group, yet. Hard to bring it throughout a grueling 82 game schedule, but yes, this one was disappointing for sure.

I'll be curious to see if we see them ramp up intensity a little bit once we get into March and move closer to the post season.

Lebowen pretty much laid it out in his post that you can't compare this team to a Championship level team like the old Spurs teams.

I had the utmost confidence that those teams would be alright. We had Tim Duncan and Manu, and I felt as long as they were on the court, we'd turn it around (because they are BOTH big game players). I don't have anywhere near that same confidence with this team. I hope they can turn it around, but I just don't have the same confidence as I would have with TD, Manu, and slightly lesser extent, TP.

The only guys I trust are Victor and Dylan (I feel Dylan has shown flashes of being one of those big game players). I haven't personally seen Fox or Castle play in any of those high stakes games to know about them (I know Fox did really good in his only playoff series and Steph did great for UConn in the NCAA tournament, but I never saw any of those games). Dylan's just barely played half a rookie season, but I think he's shown the flashes of being a big game player (He showed up in the NBA Cup final against the Knicks for one). Victor, I trust a bit as I've been how he focuses much better in the 4th quarter (that goes a long way to having faith he'll eventually get it), but as of right now, he doesn't put together more complete games like TD did from start to finish. Too erratic and can make brilliant plays or bad plays. For me to trust him more, I need to see him be more steady/consistent throughout the whole game like Tim used to do. Victor needs to stabilize the ship, not be one of the guys that can either make a brilliant play and then follow it up with an erratic play.
 
The lack of energy and commitment to defense is inexcusable for a young team like this that hasn't proven anything. Has this team won anything yet and I missed it? So why are we chilling on a Sunday night at home against this crap team? Yes NO is a shit team but after 1/2 of ball where you are clearly getting outplayed you'd think they'd come out fired up on both ends. Nope get outscored 26-21. And In the 4th after finally getting the game tied the energy drops again in the last 3 min. Execution goes down the drain and lord knows Mitch had no answers with his rotations. They better come out ready to play at Houston on Wed. Last night was alarming and shameful..
 
It's easy to attribute everything to intensity.
Young teams need to be I won't say micromanaged, but coached way harder than veteran teams.
I'm not going to blame the players because for the most part it looks like they're left to their own devices on offense.
You can't say Castle isn't trying hard. He's effectively trying to go head first through the wall because the coaches told him to pound the rock. He doesn't know any better.

Can't be compared with proven, championship rosters that don't really have anything to prove in the regular season.
The coach is for sure a big problem right now. But I am going to blame the players for chilling on D for 3 quarters last night.. All of the sudden in the 4th we are playing great on the ball D/rotating our asses off and crashing the glass. They looked like they were waiting for NO to play like shit instead of earning it..
 
While the players have to execute, it all comes back to the coach and his judgment (on rotations). It seems like the players are playing street ball with no solid guidance from Mitch! No reason for Harper not to be getting more time as compared to Castle!

As others said, Mitch’s body language lacks confidence, and until he gets coached up himself or gets replaced, more of the same up and down play will continue.

I’d love to see Wemby in the paint more but is his lack of size against heavier defenders an excuse?
Him parking at the 3pt line is not sustainable. He reminds me of new foal learning how to walk!!! Needs to spend some time in the weight room! Hopefully he can be like Jokic one day sooner than later!
 
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