Player Harper vs Edgecomb vs Bailey vs WNBA

[spurraider21]

I'd rather have Castle and Harper, tbh.

Would you rather have Maxey and VJ or Harper or Castle... thats the interesting one

 

[dn0774]

Would you rather have Maxey and VJ or Harper or Castle... thats the interesting one

That comparison would need it to be against Fox/Harper to be compelling right now. Odds are kind of low that either Harper or Castle reach where Maxey is right now is all i'm saying.

 

[spurraider21]

That comparison would need it to be against Fox/Harper to be compelling right now. Odds are kind of low that either Harper or Castle reach where Maxey is right now is all i'm saying.

yeah, the version of Maxey im seeing now is like the best case scenario of what i was hoping Dillingham could become. he's incredible.

his performance in the 2024 playoffs against the knicks was absolutely ridiculous, particularly the OT game

 

[dn0774]

yeah, the version of Maxey im seeing now is like the best case scenario of what i was hoping Dillingham could become. he's incredible.

his performance in the 2024 playoffs against the knicks was absolutely ridiculous, particularly the OT game

Last season was a down year for him despite the counting stats looking good, his efficiency regressed slightly and he seemed to chuck a bit. I didn't really make the connection that he was banged up and playing through nagging injuries, he looks healthy and has his pop back in his step again.

 

[DAF86]

Would you rather have Maxey and VJ or Harper or Castle... thats the interesting one

Maxey and VJ have the shooting advantage, Harper and Castle the size and defense advantage. I think harper can be really, really, really good, better than what Maxey is now, so Harper and Castle.

 

[DAF86]

That comparison would need it to be against Fox/Harper to be compelling right now. Odds are kind of low that either Harper or Castle reach where Maxey is right now is all i'm saying.

Maxey is Lillard-lite, I can see Harper becoming SGA-lite. SGA >>>>> Lillard, imho.

 

[dn0774]

Maxey is Lillard-lite, I can see Harper becoming SGA-lite. SGA >>>>> Lillard, imho.

I love Harper's theoretical ceiling, but what are the odds of that outcome is all I mean when I say kind of low. Luckily there are lots of outcomes in between his floor and ceiling that are still an all star player. Maxey is 25 and all NBA level right now, no hoping he hits his potential, its already hit.

 

[DAF86]

I love Harper's theoretical ceiling, but what are the odds of that outcome is all I mean when I say kind of low. Luckily there are lots of outcomes in between his floor and ceiling that are still an all star player. Maxey is 25 and all NBA level right now, no hoping he hits his potential, its already hit.

I would be very surprised if Dylan doesn't become an all-star.

 

[ird80]

Dylan can become one, edgecomb is already there. Castle still isn't shooting mids n still only drives...his fts been poop. The point is u want scouts to pick best nba player n 76ers got the best ones both times even though we picked first

 

[DAF86]

Dylan can become one, edgecomb is already there. Castle still isn't shooting mids n still only drives...his fts been poop. The point is u want scouts to pick best nba player n 76ers got the best ones both times even though we picked first

What?

Edgecomb isn't an all-star. The only difference between Harper and Edgecome is the later is given the chance to start and play more minutes. Under the same circumstances Harper might be putting up even better numbers, considering how good he has looked coming off the bench.

 

[spurraider21]

edgecomb is already there

wow

 

[k....]

i see with Haliburton being injured this year , that the semen cannon has aimed eastern, to philly

 

[k....]

What?

Edgecomb isn't an all-star. The only difference between Harper and Edgecome is the later is given the chance to start and play more minutes. Under the same circumstances Harper might be putting up even better numbers, considering how good he has looked coming off the bench.

the same can be said that harper is playing with a all time top 5 big and VJ is slumming with dom barlow . but i could truly care less if a scrub team gets a good player. spursfan being insanely greedy and dumb doing what ifs.

 

[sKiN20]

I would be very surprised if Dylan doesn't become an all-star.

its going to be a little bit harder for him to get allstat nod if playing of the bench/ ginobili role and minutes. There’s a reason ginobli only had 2 allstar appearances.

 

[spursparker9]

Would you rather have Maxey and VJ or Harper or Castle... thats the interesting one

Maxey and VJ might be highest scoring backcourt ever....Maxey is on an insane level. He is average I think 40 pts per game?

 

[Em-City]

Is Embiid like done done? Are his knees too far gone? Or is there hope he returns back to near form? Bc if so then they are a title contender this season. It’s really just the Knicks and the Cavs this year

And Miami

 

[Maddog]

To be fair, we took Castle at 4 when they took McCain at 14, Vassell at 11 when they took Maxey at 20, Harper at 2 (consensus pick) when they took VJ at 3 (non consensus pick), signed Justin Edwards undrafted... overall I'd rate their scouting pretty high, higher than the Spurs.

I doubt Philly would have taken McCain at 4.
It would be interesting who they would have taken at 11.
That said they've done well.

 

[Fireball]

And Miami

Miami is not sniffing the EC Finals ...

 

[DAF86]

its going to be a little bit harder for him to get allstat nod if playing of the bench/ ginobili role and minutes. There’s a reason ginobli only had 2 allstar appearances.

Harper won't be coming off the bench past this season, tbh.

 

[DAF86]

To be fair, we took Castle at 4 when they took McCain at 14, Vassell at 11 when they took Maxey at 20, Harper at 2 (consensus pick) when they took VJ at 3 (non consensus pick), signed Justin Edwards undrafted... overall I'd rate their scouting pretty high, higher than the Spurs.

If their scouting was as good, they wouldn't be in the position they are right now. They have some monumental fuckups in there.

Ainge played them pretty bad, tbh.

 

[KobesAchilles]

If their scouting was as good, they wouldn't be in the position they are right now. They have some monumental fuckups in there.

Ainge played them pretty bad, tbh.

That was a different scouting department and different regime. Pretty sure a buncha people got fired after the Tatum mishap.

Tbh I’m glad they got Morey bc he’s the one who set them back. Dude just keeps trading for horrible contracts or handing them out. That PG13 one is an all time robbery.

Harper and VJ are completely different players so comparing them is difficult. VJ just has a much better scoring offensive game than Harper. But Harper is a much better ball handler and distributor.

Defensively it’s a wash. I’m plenty impressed with Harper but o don’t see him becoming a shooter any time soon and that worries me. It’s hard for PGs to become shooters if they weren’t one before. Not impossible bc Tony did it but many other guards haven’t. I miss Chip.

 

[Raven_]

Dylan can become one, edgecomb is already there. Castle still isn't shooting mids n still only drives...his fts been poop. The point is u want scouts to pick best nba player n 76ers got the best ones both times even though we picked first

wat

 

[LeBowen]

VJ looks great, but being a 6'5 scorer is fairly common these days, even if we include defense.
On the other hand, Harper looks like an elite floor general in the making. There are very few of those in the league these days.

If we exclude the veterans and obviously Jokic, the list of players that averaged 6+ assists last season is very short:
Trae
Haliburton
Cade
Brunson
Giddey
Garland
SGA
Fox
Collier
Murray

Out of all those, I'd say just Trae, Haliburton and Giddey play like pass first floor generals. All three are tragic defensively.
Too early to say about Collier.

Harper will surely be an A-tier, maybe even S-tier passer and it looks like he's going to be at least a solid defender.
On top of that he's definitely going to be S-tier finisher in the paint and he's got a solid jumpshot already.
How many elite two-way floor generals you can name? That's right, there are none right now. Which makes Harper so much more valuable.

Obviously he won't be in a heliocentric system and his numbers won't be as high, but I have no doubt that he'd easily average 10+ assists on elite assist/turnover ratio if that was asked of him.

If he develops into a potential 25ppg scorer, that's your MVP level guard right there.
I'd personally be happy if he develops into a defender with a 20/6/8 or so averages.

 

[DAF86]

VJ looks great, but being a 6'5 scorer is fairly common these days, even if we include defense.
On the other hand, Harper looks like an elite floor general in the making. There are very few of those in the league these days.

If we exclude the veterans and obviously Jokic, the list of players that averaged 6+ assists last season is very short:
Trae
Haliburton
Cade
Brunson
Giddey
Garland
SGA
Fox
Collier
Murray

Out of all those, I'd say just Trae, Haliburton and Giddey play like pass first floor generals. All three are tragic defensively.
Too early to say about Collier.

Harper will surely be an A-tier, maybe even S-tier passer and it looks like he's going to be at least a solid defender.
On top of that he's definitely going to be S-tier finisher in the paint and he's got a solid jumpshot already.
How many elite two-way floor generals you can name? That's right, there are none right now. Which makes Harper so much more valuable.

Obviously he won't be in a heliocentric system and his numbers won't be as high, but I have no doubt that he'd easily average 10+ assists on elite assist/turnover ratio if that was asked of him.

If he develops into a potential 25ppg scorer, that's your MVP level guard right there.
I'd personally be happy if he develops into a defender with a 20/6/8 or so averages.

Yeah, folks in here are underestimating how good Dylan can become. I'm talking top 10-ish in the league. Wemby and Harper can become the best duo in the league since Shaq and Kobe, imho (Lebron and Wade overlapped in many areas). That's how good I think Dylan is gonna be.

 

[Kick-Stand]

Yeah, folks in here are underestimating how good Dylan can become. I'm talking top 10-ish in the league. Wemby and Harper can become the best duo in the league since Shaq and Kobe, imho (Lebron and Wade overlapped in many areas). That's how good I think Dylan is gonna be.

Top-10 ish could end up being an understatement even. Wouldn't shock me to see him become SGA level with how well he gets to the rim right now.