The reasons for drafting Harper are so obvious they aren't really worth discussing...
per 36... but i get you point, make castle a 3 and d player with occasional ballhandling.. all that he isn't.
a) you said per game, not per 36
yes, my mistake.
if castle is stealth on the market in the offseason then hell yeah i play as lead guard to inflate his value or get a gauge if hes untouchable, of the three guards, castle is the easiest to trade given his league value . the spurs really had no option to turn down fox. Harper was most valuable on draft day. they have to develop him now.
That's true but we have to stop pretending like he was the only one in that draft besides Flagg. The way it's starting out, a lot of these top 7 or 8 guys look like they may become legit stars.
He actually was.
Lol ok.
Alright, name all the 6'5+ natural point guards that are also good defenders.
He's great for what he is and what he does. What I'm saying is that we have to stop pretending like the players drafted after him don't have the ability to be really good or better than him in their respective positions. Queen, VJ, Kon, Bailey and Fears all have shown that they can can be just as good or better as Harper. We're acting like we juat know we drafted the next Jordan lol. All of these guys still have to prove it and their upsides are just as good as Harper's. That's all I'm pointing not.
Naturally every draft has players drafted lower that are better than players draft before them. The point is, Harper as hands down the higher rated prospect, and you typically don’t want to pass on that. But of course that doesn’t mean someone might not be better.
I'm asking again, how many elite two-way point guards are out there?
I don't consider Harper to be an elite 2-way guard if that's what you're trying to say. When he's shooting 25% from 3 and he's not a lock down defender, how can he be? He can definitely improve those things over time and has the tools but he's not that it right now. He's elite at creating space and driving to the basket and that's about it right now. For all we know, he's not a good floor general but again, he has time to prove just like all of these guys from this draft.
We're talking about his potential which is obviously there, you're being dense for no reason.
You're being dense because that's what I've been saying to you the entire time. I'm talking about all of these players potential, yet you just seem to think Harper is the only one who has it and the rest won't improve. As I said before, some of these guys have the ability to be just as good or better than Harper but you seem to think not.
The guys you mentioned are way more common archetypes than Harper.
I agree with the statement, but I think we're pretending a little bit when it comes the offensive orchestrator part. He hasn't orchestrated jack since the first few games. He just looks for space to penetrate or dumps the ball to the next guy. That's not being an orchestrator, that's just going through the motions. He should be asking for screens, passing to the roll man, demanding specific positioning from wemby, pushing the ball in transition and stopping when the situation doesn't allow speeding up. We haven't seen much of that from either him or castle. We have seen a little bit of it from fox. We all know he can do it, but he just hasn't, largely because this is how we play.
