Draft Atlanta Hawks Pick-Swap Watch Thread

[spursparker9]

I still see a solid future 3&D in Risacher.
Obviously not a #1 pick kind of guy but he can develop into a useful wing, which every team can use. Good time to buy low for someone

I am okay to give Sochan

 

[John B]

I am okay to give Sochan

That would be great!

I don’t know what happened to Sochan. He reminds me a lot of Lonnie, same good soldier, athletic, thought to have PG skills. There were moments that they played a very good game, then followed by duds, hesitated like they didn’t want to make a mistake. If I really thought if Sochan was with the Big 3 championship years, he’d play like a Bowen type, 3nD but with ball handling. Cissoko is actually starting in Tiago’s team.

 

[LeBowen]

That would be great!

I don’t know what happened to Sochan. He reminds me a lot of Lonnie, same good soldier, athletic, thought to have PG skills. There were moments that they played a very good game, then followed by duds, hesitated like they didn’t want to make a mistake. If I really thought if Sochan was with the Big 3 championship years, he’d play like a Bowen type, 3nD but with ball handling. Cissoko is actually starting in Tiago’s team.

Lonnie had the skills, just couldn't consistently put it together.

Sochan never had the skills. I don't want to dig up old ST posts, but last season people were getting hopeful because of his jump in efficency, but it was obviously caused by him being the least threatening player on the floor and always left wide open.
He's got no skills that are NBA worthy other than having solid mobility for his size which makes him a decent defender.

 

[Strategic]

Trae and Porzingis both GTD’s against Toronto tonight. Anymore, I don’t know if that’s good or bad.

 

[bozhemoi]

Lonnie had the skills, just couldn't consistently put it together.

Sochan never had the skills. I don't want to dig up old ST posts, but last season people were getting hopeful because of his jump in efficency, but it was obviously caused by him being the least threatening player on the floor and always left wide open.
He's got no skills that are NBA worthy other than having solid mobility for his size which makes him a decent defender.

Of course Sochan has NBA skills. Jesus are you people insufferable sometimes. He'll get a new start somewhere else and maybe turn it around but it's mental to say he's not an NBA player.

 

[LeBowen]

Of course Sochan has NBA skills. Jesus are you people insufferable sometimes. He'll get a new start somewhere else and maybe turn it around but it's mental to say he's not an NBA player.

Which NBA level skills other than his physical attributes does he have?

 

[John B]

Of course Sochan has NBA skills. Jesus are you people insufferable sometimes. He'll get a new start somewhere else and maybe turn it around but it's mental to say he's not an NBA player.

Sochan needs to play a lot, loosen up, maybe play in Austin, gets plenty of repetitions, dunks, shots going in. He needs to get back to basics of playing basketball. Right now I see him stiff, hesitating, not wanting to make mistakes and it affects the flow of just playing. It’s basketball, not chess!

 

[bozhemoi]

Which NBA level skills other than his physical attributes does he have?

I feel like you're just being childish at this point, to be honest. This line of thought is beneath you.

 

[LeBowen]

I feel like you're just being childish at this point, to be honest. This line of thought is beneath you.

Back on ST, I think before the last season ended, I wrote that Devin/Keldon/Jeremy are solid role players, just not suited for whatever the Spurs were doing, but that doesn't mean they wouldn't do well elsewhere.
This season we had a complete turnaround, Devin and Keldon look like the best versions of themselves, but Jeremy is just lost.

It's not the lack of shooting, it's the complete inability to do anything useful on offense other than an occasional rebound.
Useful as in something that would make Mitch play him over Bryant/Olynyk.

Wizards game was the end for him in Spurs uniform.
We were in a comfortable lead and yet in almost 7 first quarter minutes he did absolutely nothing.
He was just a detriment to his teammates on offense.

He doesn't understand the proper roll angles, doesn't understand the timing for anything other than offensive rebound, his processing power is extremely low and he can't make even the simplest of decisions on the fly.
How many of those useless dribbles into the paint have we seen from him? And every single time it seems like he has no clue how he found himself there, then just tries to kick it out in full panic mode.

Another thing I've been saying for years now is that one-way role players are done, at least when it comes to serious playoff teams.
No more traffic cone shooters and no more wing defenders that can't shoot.
Even S-tier versions of those wings like Amen are struggling in a lot of games despite his ballhandling and athleticism, what's Sochan supposed to be good for?

It's year 4 and his jumpshot is nowhere to be seen. He's had 3 years of pressure-free development, guaranteed minutes regardless of his level of play and it amounted to what? Zero improvement.
Those summer workout videos with him shooting off the dribble and stepback shots only to be scared in actual games are a death sentence. He's done.

He might look useful on another tanking team that can't defend anything because he'll be the only positive defender, but as soon as that roster improves, they'll pass him onto the next tanking team.
If he even gets another chance.

Spurs, much like every other team, have had their fair share of missed draft selections. It's a part of the game.
But I can't really remember a single end of the bench player that was cut and turned out to be useful elsewhere, like for example we did with Champagnie after the Sixers waived him.
And no, don't mention Cissoko who's averaging 6ppg on 38% FG for a 15-20 Blazers team.

There's my take on Sochan. I don't think anything I wrote in this post is projecting or whataboutism, I just stated the facts about what we've seen so far.
I'd like you to reply with actual arguments about which offensive skills Jeremy has instead of your usual condescending bullshit whenever you disagree with someone.
And I'd genuinely like to know about it, my basketball knowledge is limited and I don't see any redeeming qualities in Jeremy considering he's the same player he was on draft night.

 

[BatManu20]

Lol.

https://twitter.com/x/status/2007521861068795928

 

[BatManu20]

 

[Raven_]

it is poetic justice for this pick to end up being a top 3

 

[Corso]

Of course Sochan has NBA skills. Jesus are you people insufferable sometimes. He'll get a new start somewhere else and maybe turn it around but it's mental to say he's not an NBA player.

Here we go. Body is rounding back into form. The "kill yourself" garbage is upcoming.

 

[100%Duncan]

Here we go. Body is rounding back into form. The "kill yourself" garbage is upcoming.

Thats mr body?

 

[CGD]

Man if ATL lands Peterson, they are primed for a good stretch. All the other pieces are there.

 

[spursistan]

The Mavs are a delusional bunch

https://twitter.com/x/status/2007842429215388091

 

[spurraider21]

bucks have won 4 of their past 5 (coinciding with Giannis' return)... they are now just half a game behind a hawks for the 10 seed. aka... hawks close to falling out of the play-in.

with that said, as much as we talk about OKC having the hardest remaning schedule in the NBA, atlanta's remaining strength of schedule is the 3rd easiest in the league

 

[Rafa]

bucks have won 4 of their past 5 (coinciding with Giannis' return)... they are now just half a game behind a hawks for the 10 seed. aka... hawks close to falling out of the play-in.

with that said, as much as we talk about OKC having the hardest remaning schedule in the NBA, atlanta's remaining strength of schedule is the 3rd easiest in the league

Would be great if that could happen, and the Clippers playing well makes me happy too. I've lost all hopes for the Pels to do anything this year, so I fully expect Atlanta to part ways with Trae for good capital, draft really high through the pels picks, and have an exciting and surging young team next year. Really feels like '26 is the last chance for us to get anything good out of those hawk picks & swaps

 

[Exstatic]

Would be great if that could happen, and the Clippers playing well makes me happy too. I've lost all hopes for the Pels to do anything this year, so I fully expect Atlanta to part ways with Trae for good capital, draft really high through the pels picks, and have an exciting and surging young team next year. Really feels like '26 is the last chance for us to get anything good out of those hawk picks & swaps

They’re not getting good draft capital for Trae. If anyone was interested in parting with that, Trae would already be in a different uniform. He’s part of a dying archetype, the Steph wannabe little inefficient chucker who plays no D.

They are having an awful time trying to get anyone to take him. He’s been lightly shopped for 3 years and heavily shopped for a year and a half. Everyone sees that ATL is better with him inactive, and his price point has plummeted. His best value may be this summer as a huge expring when he inevitably picks up that option.

 

[Ariel]

Would be great if that could happen, and the Clippers playing well makes me happy too. I've lost all hopes for the Pels to do anything this year, so I fully expect Atlanta to part ways with Trae for good capital, draft really high through the pels picks, and have an exciting and surging young team next year. Really feels like '26 is the last chance for us to get anything good out of those hawk picks & swaps

New Orleans @2 is 5 games away from Dallas @9 with 45 games to go, and in that group only the Clippers will try to win games. My guess the rest of the teams will tank so hard NO will reach 8/9 pre-lottery seed even if they crawl all the way there.

 

[Sugus]

Would be great if that could happen, and the Clippers playing well makes me happy too. I've lost all hopes for the Pels to do anything this year, so I fully expect Atlanta to part ways with Trae for good capital, draft really high through the pels picks, and have an exciting and surging young team next year. Really feels like '26 is the last chance for us to get anything good out of those hawk picks & swaps

I'd actually still really like to hold onto the last Hawks pick if not used in a trade, regardless of any projections about the Hawks.

The Spurs actually have more than one hole to fill before they're in that "fully contending" roster status, and a mid-to-20s draft pick is exactly where you pick up an older, solid rook to plug a necessity for years on the cheap. Unless the Hawks turn into contenders overnight with some majestic fleece of a Young trade, I would hold onto that pick and try our luck.

It's notable to mention that our #29 pick is currently leading the race for 6MOTY - there's clearly value to be had. And my boy DWhite is going strong also

 

[spurraider21]

https://twitter.com/x/status/2008295939690119625

 

[Mugen]

I wonder if this means AD is on his way to ATL...

 

[spurraider21]

I wonder if this means AD is on his way to ATL...

makes sense on paper

washington is just a weird amalgamation of players with no structure. for Trae's warts, he can elevate the offense to a level of competency, and free up guys like Tre Johnson

Mavs get the expiring McCollum as part of their rebuild around Flagg

Hawks move on from Trae era by hoping to continue buidling the long/athletic team that can hopefully defend. they badly need a rim protector alongside Jalen Johnson and Okongwu

 

[Mugen]

Trae would finally get to play with the French big he's been clamoring for tbh.