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Clippers looked like trash early last year iirc? Maybe I'm wrong. They have talent and a pretty good coach. I don't think they'll be completely awful.
 
bozhemoi said:
Clippers looked like trash early last year iirc? Maybe I'm wrong. They have talent and a pretty good coach. I don't think they'll be completely awful.
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6-7, then won 5 straight and never looked back.

They're too old.
Average age of their 11 rotation players is 33!
John Collins being the youngest and he just turned 28.

They could maybe do some damage in an ideal playoff environment, but being old is a huge disadvantage for the regular season.
 
My co-worker (Blazer's fan who is slowly adopting the Spurs as his second team, living vicariously through me) described the Clippers the best to me: just a team full of old guys who never get the job done when it matters (aside from Nephew, who is never available when it matters)
 
Did one roll on Tankathon and the results were wild, as 6 of the 7 picks have been involved in trades.

1. PHX -> Headed to WAS
2. IND = re-acquired from NOP during the finals last year
3. BKN = re-acquired from HOU in 2024
4. WAS -> Headed to MEM (though I thought this was protected, maybe something about the PHX pick unlocks it? Didn't care to look into this since it's just a TAT roll)
5. NOP -> Headed to ATL
6. DAL
7. LAC -> Headed to OKC
8. UTA = only kept by virtue of Top 8 protection

Looked into the WAS pick situation, it's a messy multiple team swap with PHX, WAS, MEM and CHA situation.
 
And JFC... right now OKC had a decent chance of having 4 picks in this year's draft. LAC unprotected, UTAH top 8 protected, PHI and HOU all coming to them, theirs outgoing to WAS.
 
scott said:
We just have to accept that the basketball gods have favored the Thunder. Probably to make up for the fact that most of their fans have to live in fucking Oklahoma.

But... those same basketball gods favor us (probably to make up for the fact that most of their fans have to live in fucking Texas).

Atlanta Swap deliver us from evil.
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Anytime I stress about the OKC picks,I say my two word Mantra: Ouseman Dieng. They spent 3 FRPs on getting the pick for him.
 
Exstatic said:
Anytime I stress about the OKC picks,I say my two word Mantra: Ouseman Dieng. They spent 3 FRPs on getting the pick for him.
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I know this gives you comfort at night, but they still just hung up a banner, still are drafting very well, and still have up to 4 picks in the first round in 2026, up to 3 in 2027 (including potentially hours), two in 2028, and 2 in 2029.

But whatever puts you at ease, go for it.
 
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scott said:
I know this gives you comfort at night, but they still just hung up a banner, still are drafting very well, and still have up to 4 picks in the first round in 2026, up to 3 in 2027 (including potentially hours), two in 2028, and 2 in 2029.

But whatever puts you at ease, go for it.
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The window of opportunity against OKC might start after next season. I have full confidence in Cason Wallace's ability to reproduce a large portion of what Caruso brings around a SGA-Chet-JDub core, but Sorber's ACL injury makes losing iHart a much bigger deal and they might be susceptible to teams that can out-physical them, especially as I'm not convinced Chet can ever add the requisite weight to hang with the larger bigs in the league. It never would have worked out with draft positioning, but if CMB had lasted until 14 in this past draft I will always maintain that he would have been an awesome anti-Thunder weapon to deploy against their relative small quick guys, especially now that it looks like he's capable of hitting the 3, and specifically to go up against Chet and prevent Wemby from getting drawn out to the perimeter.

Of course, if OKC ends up with Cam Boozer or some bullshit like that in this draft, then all bets are off and you can just kill me now
 
SpursBills said:
The window of opportunity against OKC might start after next season. I have full confidence in Cason Wallace's ability to reproduce a large portion of what Caruso brings around a SGA-Chet-JDub core, but Sorber's ACL injury makes losing iHart a much bigger deal and they might be susceptible to teams that can out-physical them, especially as I'm not convinced Chet can ever add the requisite weight to hang with the larger bigs in the league. It never would have worked out with draft positioning, but if CMB had lasted until 14 in this past draft I will always maintain that he would have been an awesome anti-Thunder weapon to deploy against their relative small quick guys, especially now that it looks like he's capable of hitting the 3, and specifically to go up against Chet and prevent Wemby from getting drawn out to the perimeter.

Of course, if OKC ends up with Cam Boozer or some bullshit like that in this draft, then all bets are off and you can just kill me now
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Part by strategy and part by luck but OKC have really set themselves up as best as you possibly can given the Cap Economics. Any dynasty is going to eventually come to grips with economics, but the only counter to that is to have a pipeline of high end talent on rookie deals... and that's exactly what OKC has set themselves up to do. It will mostly likely mean they come back to earth somewhat, but they're still in a most enviable position.

We've done a fairly good job doing similar, though our approach is no longer with sheer volume of picks but rather the quality by having all of these swaps attached to our picks down the road. We're also going to have to start making good use of these high second rounders (again, like OKC has). That's how you combat the aprons.
 
Really bad news: right now, ESPN’s Basketball Power Index is projecting us to finish with 48 wins and the Hawks with 47.
 
It's nearly impossible for the Hawks to not make the play-in, at least. The bottom of the lake in the East is completely awful. Nets, Wizards, and Pacers are devastatingly bad. Three wins between them so far. Then the Hornets who will forever be shit so long as Ball is there.

At worst the Hawks will be hanging around the play-in spots alongside the likes of Orlando, Boston, Philadelphia, and Toronto. One of those teams, if things more or less stand, will miss the play-in. Then of course two will miss the playoffs. Fortunately the rest of these mediocrities face the same lousy conference.
 
scott said:
And JFC... right now OKC had a decent chance of having 4 picks in this year's draft. LAC unprotected, UTAH top 8 protected, PHI and HOU all coming to them, theirs outgoing to WAS.
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Utah pick seems safe with those protections
 
scott said:
I know this gives you comfort at night, but they still just hung up a banner, still are drafting very well, and still have up to 4 picks in the first round in 2026, up to 3 in 2027 (including potentially hours), two in 2028, and 2 in 2029.

But whatever puts you at ease, go for it.
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The war chest is nice. My understanding though is that after this year the quality of their picks decreases right? e.g., fewer Philly/Clipper unprotected picks more lotto protected ones right?

At least there’s that. But yeah good for them.
 
CGD said:
The war chest is nice. My understanding though is that after this year the quality of their picks decreases right? e.g., fewer Philly/Clipper unprotected picks more lotto protected ones right?

At least there’s that. But yeah good for them.
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The picks are:

2026:
  • OKC will receive HOU (protected 1-4) (current TAT projection: 23)
  • OKC will LAC (unprotected) (current TAT projection: 7)
  • OKC will receive PHI's protected 1-4 this year (it rolls to PHI protected 1-4 next year if it doesn't convey) (current TAT projection: 19)
  • OKC will receive UTA's protected 1-8. If it does not convey, then the obligation just extinguishes (maybe this will thus be Utah's last year tanking?) (current TAT projection: 8)
  • OKC's first round pick will go to WAS (current TAT projection: 30)
2027:
  • OKC will receive DEN protected 1-5 in 2027, 1-5 in 2028 and 1-5 in 2029
  • OKC will swap their least favorable of OKC/DEN with LAC
  • OKC will receive SAS pick if it falls between 17-30, otherwise SAC will get it.
  • OKC has their own pick
2028:
  • OKC will receive DAL (unprotected)
  • OKC has their own pick
2029
  • OKC will receive DEN's pick, protected 1-5, assuming DEN's 2027 pick conveyed (basically, they get DEN's pick two years after the first pick conveys)
  • OKC has their own pick
So I'd say in the short run, they still have some juicy picks with those LAC picks/swaps and let's see if PHI can stay competitive. The DEN picks don't look too appealing, but you never know what can happen. DAL pick in 2028 should probably be middling at best... but who knows if Nico will manage to not screw up landing Flagg and another lotto pick this year.

Of course, OKC also has some players they'll be able (and might need to) trade off for cap purposes, possibly getting picks in return.

It just really is model team building in the modern era. Of course, that doesn't mean they'll win every title, but they've put themselves in the best position possible to stay in contention for a long time which is hard given current NBA economics.
 
I highly doubt Utah will convey. I think the Clippers one might end up being late lottery though.
 
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