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His extreme lack of athleticism is confounding. Maybe this works in the pros. But man this is a role player if there ever was one. Maybe a great role player. But day 1 of training camp there’s going to be a GM having a panic attack for picking him over a handful of other guys.
I tend to agree. He'd be a seamless fit next to Wemby though tbh. Too bad we won't have a shot at him.His extreme lack of athleticism is confounding. Maybe this works in the pros. But man this is a role player if there ever was one. Maybe a great role player. But day 1 of training camp there’s going to be a GM having a panic attack for picking him over a handful of other guys.
You seem like you know what you're talking about and are very confident in your assessment! How confident are you that AJ will be the better player than Boozer in their mid-career? Would you be willing to lay 4:1 odds on that? 10:1?if you think AJ isn’t the clear 1, you should be trusted with very little decision making in your personal life. This seems incredibly obvious.
Peterson is a 35 year old. Very talented but his jumper ain’t gonna stand out like that in the pros and his body is f’d.
And Boozer might touch the rim some day. We all get there.
He NEEDS to be the pick. It would be like having two Keldon’s out there. Hustle, grit, toughness - everything you want in a role player.Get in here @OK Computer. Your boy had himself a game today. In only 26 min too due to early foul trouble.
You seem like you know what you're talking about and are very confident in your assessment! How confident are you that AJ will be the better player than Boozer in their mid-career? Would you be willing to lay 4:1 odds on that? 10:1?
I personally have all 3 as fairly close but have Boozer as probably the best overall value of the 3, but who knows maybe you are right and I've made all the wrong decisions in my personal life.
It's an interesting question for sure - I think compared to Boozer, you're right that AJ moves a lot more fluidly and profiles as more of an on-ball creator. They're both not good defenders, as Boozer seems to be more stiff on the perimeter while AJ gets lost a ton.I’m definitely confident. Definitely don’t know what I’m talking about. Quite a duality.
10:1 on boozer being a better pro in year 1 or year 8. Or both. Take your pick.
He scores and looks bad doing it. I admit this is a very rare type of situation. I actually don’t know if I’ve ever seen such a combination of producing output and looking like you cannot produce output. Maybe the ride continues.
Rating him as 1 means you believe he can be the #1 on a competitive team. That’s what the others are, so by default he would have to be the same. So how is he going to score against the top wings in the league?
If the Spurs get lucky with the Hawks pick and get to the top 3.. I think Boozer is the most apt choice for how the team's make up is and how you put his abilities and skills are. Fingers crossed that lightning strikes again.It's an interesting question for sure - I think compared to Boozer, you're right that AJ moves a lot more fluidly and profiles as more of an on-ball creator. They're both not good defenders, as Boozer seems to be more stiff on the perimeter while AJ gets lost a ton.
I may be biased by the last two drafts but to me, Reed Sheppard and Kon Knueppel have already exceeded what their physical profiles suggested they could do after producing way less than Boozer at an older age. Sheppard's got basically the worst physical profile / worst archetype in basketball (drafted that high because analytics) and a bench player at Kentucky and he's 80th percentile EPM in his second season. Knueppel was not athletic at all, has short stubby arms, and can barely dunk and yet looks like he might be some Klay Thompson / poor man's Devin Booker hybrid. Both were minus athletes who didn't produce nearly as well and were about a year older than Boozer is now. In terms of how he scores, I don't think Boozer's necessarily an S tier engine or anything, but between bully-ball, passing, earning extra possessions through rebounding, shooting potential, and just knowing when to cut/where to be, he's got his own ways to score. I see Kevin Love thrown around as a comp a decent amount, but Boozer's better at a younger age than Love and has a stronger shooting signal and is a better decision-maker, so maybe Boozer is to Love what Cooper Flagg will be to Franz Wagner.
Dybantsa's obvious path to success is as an offensive engine. But do you see him as some amazing playmaker? If not, does he provide ancillary value? Like is he a great rebounder, will he set good screens for you, will he space the floor? Does he look like he'll have a good off-the-dribble 3 if teams play for the drive? Or are you relying on him to maintain elite efficiency through high volume scoring via FTs, drives to the paint, and mid-range jumpers, in which case he'd basically be Tracy McGrady? Is it a concern at all that his EFG% drops from 59 to 50 against top 100 competition, and down to 48 against top 50 competition? Like I have no doubt AJ's a stud, he'd be my odds-on favorite for ROY because I think he's going to put up more points than anybody else in this draft class especially from the outside.
I don't know, this is why I'm not as confident that one's going to be better than the other.
But then again, 10:1 odds seems like a bargain price to me - I'll happily put down any amount up to $500 on that if you're willing, especially going by DARKO, EPM, or 3 year RAPM by year 4 that Boozer's the better pro.
Brutal spanking. Even I was like “daddy”.It's an interesting question for sure - I think compared to Boozer, you're right that AJ moves a lot more fluidly and profiles as more of an on-ball creator. They're both not good defenders, as Boozer seems to be more stiff on the perimeter while AJ gets lost a ton.
I may be biased by the last two drafts but to me, Reed Sheppard and Kon Knueppel have already exceeded what their physical profiles suggested they could do after producing way less than Boozer at an older age. Sheppard's got basically the worst physical profile / worst archetype in basketball (drafted that high because analytics) and a bench player at Kentucky and he's 80th percentile EPM in his second season. Knueppel was not athletic at all, has short stubby arms, and can barely dunk and yet looks like he might be some Klay Thompson / poor man's Devin Booker hybrid. Both were minus athletes who didn't produce nearly as well and were about a year older than Boozer is now. In terms of how he scores, I don't think Boozer's necessarily an S tier engine or anything, but between bully-ball, passing, earning extra possessions through rebounding, shooting potential, and just knowing when to cut/where to be, he's got his own ways to score. I see Kevin Love thrown around as a comp a decent amount, but Boozer's better at a younger age than Love and has a stronger shooting signal and is a better decision-maker, so maybe Boozer is to Love what Cooper Flagg will be to Franz Wagner.
Dybantsa's obvious path to success is as an offensive engine. But do you see him as some amazing playmaker? If not, does he provide ancillary value? Like is he a great rebounder, will he set good screens for you, will he space the floor? Does he look like he'll have a good off-the-dribble 3 if teams play for the drive? Or are you relying on him to maintain elite efficiency through high volume scoring via FTs, drives to the paint, and mid-range jumpers, in which case he'd basically be Tracy McGrady? Is it a concern at all that his EFG% drops from 59 to 50 against top 100 competition, and down to 48 against top 50 competition? Like I have no doubt AJ's a stud, he'd be my odds-on favorite for ROY because I think he's going to put up more points than anybody else in this draft class especially from the outside.
I don't know, this is why I'm not as confident that one's going to be better than the other.
But then again, 10:1 odds seems like a bargain price to me - I'll happily put down any amount up to $500 on that if you're willing, especially going by DARKO, EPM, or 3 year RAPM by year 4 that Boozer's the better pro.
What does melting entail, exactly? By my estimations, I’m still making the same points as when this board launched.Brutal spanking. Even I was like “daddy”.
Don’t expect that guy to post money. He makes a lot of matter of fact statements and then melts into the shrubbery.