Player The unfortunately low-ceilinged Shaolin monastery of Victor Wembanyama

while he is clearly still not refined offensively, his gargantuan talent is simply overwhelming. bottom line is, he's ready. needs a couple of playoff series' under his belt, a disappointing loss that he can reflect on... but the rest? he's good enough.
 
spursistan said:
I know this is good prep for the playoffs, but how are some these blatant shoves not called fouls ? :st-lol:
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Didn't include the most blatant one IMO that being Cunninghams frustration foul when Wemby was simply running upcourt in transition.
 
Wemby is +2100 for MVP today. Bet the nest egg ladies and retire early.
 
spurraider21 said:
while he is clearly still not refined offensively, his gargantuan talent is simply overwhelming. bottom line is, he's ready. needs a couple of playoff series' under his belt, a disappointing loss that he can reflect on... but the rest? he's good enough.
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He's already got that though - people don't take it into account because it didn't happen in the NBA playoffs. But his loss with France last year is absolutely the kind of heartbreak people point towards as a turning point for players.

Maybe the team, collectively, needs to experience that to jump into a "next level", but idk about Wemby in particular
 
The Truth #6 said:
If the ESPN types embrace Wemby as the face of the NBA, along with a feeling that he should have have won DPOY once or twice already, and that the Spurs are an exciting success story...then I can easily talk myself into Wemby as MVP.

Now if the reporters have some nativist prejudice I suppose Cade would be a possibility.

I still think the Joker is the MVP, but I also think if the Spurs/Wemby finish strong then he'll win it. Or at least we'll have the tradition where people will say he was robbed and how could the voters screw this up etc.

Anyway. Just rambling...
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I think Monica McNutt & Kendrick Perkins are sold, however Stephen A. will never root for anyone that isn't American. As for me, I believe SGA is the clear favorite rn, but of course he, along with Jokic & Victor, are close to the 65 game threshold so realistically it's all on the table rn. On availability alone Cade could win it.
 
Sugus said:
He's already got that though - people don't take it into account because it didn't happen in the NBA playoffs. But his loss with France last year is absolutely the kind of heartbreak people point towards as a turning point for players.

Maybe the team, collectively, needs to experience that to jump into a "next level", but idk about Wemby in particular
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no i mean in the playoffs. its a different feeling when you lose to the same squad 4 times and arent able to figure them out
 
spurraider21 said:
no i mean in the playoffs. its a different feeling when you lose to the same squad 4 times and arent able to figure them out
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How many games were the French playoffs at? Best of 5, or 7? Anyway, this team (Victor specially) has some hidden "do or die" experiences on their resume, tbh.
 
DAF86 said:
How many games were the French playoffs at? Best of 5, or 7? Anyway, this team (Victor specially) has some hidden "do or die" experiences on their resume, tbh.
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i was responding to the comment which mentioned the olympics. but yeah he had playoff series in france, but i dont think that stacks to NBA at all tbh
 
CrustyCoastBendFan said:
Detroit and these shady refs tonight just made the whoopin Wemby and the Spurs are gonna put on them in about 10 days 10x worse. You can't unsee it at this point, some memo, some super secret text chain has this Charmin Soft era suddenly being allowed to do the bullshit the Pistons and refs did to Wemby tonight. Play football five on 1 on defense. Except it was more obvious when that mandate extended to the rest of the Spurs. Luckily, no NBA player is good at playing football for 48 minutes and an elite level.

The entire league is definitely afraid of seeing Wimby average 40 or more points a game and the rules are changed for him. And now it's entire team. Like I said, Wemby Rules are just the old Jordan Rules, and this is what it looks like in today's Charmin Soft Society of the NBA today. Where you can't sneeze on players like SGA and others. Instead of one team doing it to one guy It's now it's the whole league doing it to one guy, now the "Deeetroit baaasket ball" tried to do it to the entire goddamn team.

I give Sweeney a Mitch credit for keeping the guys in the game tonight mentally. And hope to God that this bullshit doesn't cost us a fucking player. It's obvious that's what the game is. Call me a conspiracy theorist, but I can't unsee what I've seen.

PS,
I decided to post less on this board and the internet in general. I come to, you know, peek in for a moment and this thread turns into like some funhouse reflection of that garbage political thread on the other place. I mean, what we doing here guys?
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Corliss Williamson was pretty chill about Detroit's aggressive tactics, especially after the game. Think his attitude is rubbing off on the team, my take of it would be something like: "Don't let it get in your head. Their posturing is not about you. It's about their own fear, dissatisfaction, and confusion that they're not getting to you."
 
Weeks said:
tl;dr: french guy writes extensive essay on why french people are morally superior
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Not morally superior but it is true that Americans are usually defining success on how much money they make. While money is important everywhere it might not be as important as in the US and could be a reason why Wemby could be willing to take less to have a more competitive team. Again, I could be totally wrong, not suggesting that the front office should approach him with a low ball offer, he deserves the max but could see him taking less.
 
Weeks said:
tl;dr: french guy writes extensive essay on why french people are morally superior
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Ah, so paying more attention to living environments and small pleasures rather than money would be superior? Intersting.

It wasn't an “essay” on the superiority of one mindset over another, but rather on cultural differences that are denied in this thread.

But OK, if some people absolutely want to think that the whole planet dreams of adopting the American way of life, that explains a lot of misunderstandings about the supposed superiority of Americans - this time.
 
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Are we underrating Victor? His efficiency and offensive output is hit and miss from game to game, but he's so impactful out there on both ends of the floor that he just might be the best player in the World already.

Enough has been said about his defensive presence, so I won't expand on that; but his offensive gravity is very underrated. Everytime he rolls to the basket he drags 2 or 3 guys with him. Opposing bigs would concede layups to our guards just to try to prevent the lob to Vic.

So, to opposing players he's a magnet on offense and a repelent of defense. Nobody influences the game more without even needing to have the ball on his hands. He's like prime Curry on steroids, ON BOTH SIDES OF THE BALL. Shit is crazy.
 
lol yes people on this board are 100% underrating Wemby! Its fucking INSANE people aren't just happy with what this kid provides. Like I really don't get how Spurs fans are anything but over the fucking moon of where we're at. We have NO business having this dude on our team after David and Tim. If you're doing a draft of NBA players right now, there is no fucking way anyone takes anyone but Wemby #1. Jokic and SGA might be on par, but neither have the ceiling Wemby does. Health is the only concern. And honestly its a big one, but otherwise this kid is fucking INSANE.
 
DAF86 said:
Are we underrating Victor? His efficiency and offensive output is hit and miss from game to game, but he's so impactful out there on both ends of the floor that he just might be the best player in the World already.

Enough has been said about his defensive presence, so I won't expand on that; but his offensive gravity is very underrated. Everytime he rolls to the basket he drags 2 or 3 guys with him. Opposing bigs would concede layups to our guards just to try to prevent the lob to Vic.

So, to opposing players he's a magnet on offense and a repelent of defense. Nobody influences the game more without even needing to have the ball on his hands. He's like prime Curry on steroids, ON BOTH SIDES OF THE BALL. Shit is crazy.
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That is potential another nickname for Vic tbh.

The Magnet!

Repelling like North-to-North on Defense and Attracting like North-to-South on Offense!
 

Video breaking down Wemby's magnet effect on offense and his repellent effect on defense
 
100%Duncan said:
Yup he has done this since year 1 but has had to do it more often recently due to reasons you said
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It was the only reason his block streak ended, tbh. The block numbers started to dwindle from game to game because of that cowardly tactic :st-lol: and eventually ended when he was still on minutes restriction as we blew out OKC. Teams are still employing it but his BPG/rate has picked up in February.
 
Fucking bad boy Pistons 2.0....Beef Stew did not even play.

I really hope Silver can merge the East West conference and just change to 1st to 16th seed. Whoever come out of Western Conference Finals would already be quite worn out just to get out of the West and to face the Bad Boy Pistons 2.0 in a 7 games series in the Finals would be hard....
 
Limguoguolo said:
Ah, so paying more attention to living environments and small pleasures rather than money would be superior? Intersting.

It wasn't an “essay” on the superiority of one mindset over another, but rather on cultural differences that are denied in this thread.

But OK, if some people absolutely want to think that the whole planet dreams of adopting the American way of life, that explains a lot of misunderstandings about the supposed superiority of Americans - this time.
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You are 100% correct about the US. There is a moral component Americans attach to wealth. That is, the way Americans view the rich versus the poor is through a moral lens. Rich people are admired and poor people are despised.

I can’t speak on how other countries view rich v. poor. Is it really that different in France?
 
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