Player The unfortunately low-ceilinged Shaolin monastery of Victor Wembanyama

I can see Wemby not getting MVP due to pre-emptive voter fatigue too, even if the Spurs end up as the 1 seed. Some voters might think "Wemby is gonna get the next 2 MVPs at least, let's let SGA have one more"

Wemby is going to get the same treatment that Timmy got in 1999. The award was Malone's to lose and the voters just weren't ready to give it to a second year player.

No knock against SGA who is definitely having an MVP season. I just don't think there's anything Wemby can do to win it this year above what he's already done.
 
OKC was already at peak revenge mode before these comments, seeing as we curb stomped them this year. If it's even possible for Wemby to suddenly make them more thirsty for revenge by answering a question at a presser, then they have problems.
 
I guarantee every one of those players would have done ‘Hell Nahs’ going against Vic in the paint, just like SGA and the rest of the guys that actually played did.

OKC runs a gimmick system that relies on turning you over to score a big chunk of their points. That’s not easy to do to a team with three starting caliber PGs, no matter who OKC trots out on the court. If you turn OKC into a half court offense you can beat them. SA and number of teams in the aftermath proved that.
And "turning you over" means fouling so much the refs can't call everything, even when it's blatant and results in easy fast break buckets.
 

The klutch narrative has started in full force. Fox better change agents if he wants to stay on the team
I would say SGA and Jokic are the only two guys I feel right now that are offensively better than Victor. Luka scores more points but he's not as efficient as Victor. Curry is pretty much done know with his current knee condition. He will never be what he once was so that eliminates him being better than Victor right now offensively. Tatum has been complete shit since his return so he's definitely not better. I can see the argument for Anthony Edwards since he's scoring more than Victor and is about as efficient as Victor has been but the rest of this list is garbage. This is Nick trying to be a super troll for views.
 
I would say SGA and Jokic are the only two guys I feel right now that are offensively better than Victor. Luka scores more points but he's not as efficient as Victor. Curry is pretty much done know with his current knee condition. He will never be what he once was so that eliminates him being better than Victor right now offensively. Tatum has been complete shit since his return so he's definitely not better. I can see the argument for Anthony Edwards since he's scoring more than Victor and is about as efficient as Victor has been but the rest of this list is garbage. This is Nick trying to be a super troll for views.
The thing that he missed is the Minutes per game. He is saying this year’s victor is just the same as last year because of points per game (24ppg). He didnt realize that last year’s victor played 33mpg while this year victor only averaging 29mpg.

This year’s victor is better than last year the only difference is the playing time thats why the stats is siimilar. But if you look at the FGA% victor actually improved to 50% from 47% last season. Also his assist is down this year because he doesnt do playmaking alot compared to last two seasons , it is the reason why his turnovers went down this year.
 
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Yeah I don't buy this for a second. OKC is supposed to beat the Spurs this year, first of all. Second of all, do you think people remember Jordan for losing to the Pistons early in his career or for his 6 rings and everything else? Do people remember Lebron for his early career playoff losses? Hakeem? Etc etc. Obviously Wemby has to do something to have a legacy but the idea that talking some shit and then losing is going to stain him forever is pretty ridiculous. OKC has the MUCH more talented team. The upside potential here is enormous and the downside is virtually non existent. Like what is Wemby supposed to do, not believe that he's the best? Its pretty silly that not displaying fake humility would be some kind of scarlet letter.
I only read Spurstalk, so this is the ONLY thing I know about Lebron
 
I don't know if your old school comment is meaning to indicate that this somehow didn't happen more in previous eras and I would actually say it happened a whole hell of a lot more. Wemby IS being old school with talking like this. Its much more modern that players are media trained to the point of just repeating the same old bullshit time and time again. This is refreshing and I don't buy into the idea that this can bite him in the ass. Like the obvious thing here is that OKC is somehow going to be more fired up because of these comments, but I dont buy that for a second.
I don't recall other greats in the 90's etc stating this emphatic a case for MVP. Maybe Jordan did a time or 2? Obviously it was so much different.. When I was a kid it was just highlights and newspapers.. Regardless I am fine with it.. I love Wemby and the Spurs.. As long as Wemby knows if we face off with OKC in the CF this is going to come around again. If the Spurs lose and he under-performs a lot of heat will come down with that.. I can assure you when he said "We dominated OKC" They didn't like that 1 bit.. And Yes I do buy into BB material giving a team this GREAT extra juice.. 100%..
 
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I don't recall other greats in the 90's etc stating this emphatic a case for MVP. Maybe Jordan did a time or 2? Obviously it was so much different.. When I was a kid it was just highlights and newspapers.. Regardless I am fine with it.. I love Wemby and the Spurs.. As long as Wemby knows if we face off with OKC in the CF this is going to come around again. If the Spurs lose and he under-performs a lot of heat will come down with that.. I can assure you when he said "We dominated OKC" They didn't like that 1 bit.. And Yes I do buy into BB material giving a team this GREAT extra juice.. 100%..

I personnally don't believe in the board material shit, if a player needs that to be motivated for a PO game you have to question what kind of player you draft or trade. It may impact some egomaniac player like kobe, mj to go over the top and trying to take over alone games which is never good unless you are MJ I guess.

Also worst case being a Spurs loss with a subpar Wemby... so what ? Meeting OKC in western finals would be anyway a overachievement for a team coming from a 30 wins season... and Victor will still be 22 y/o with great future ahead.

Victor is a blessing for the Spurs and one of the few answering genuinely to questions that's great... no downside on that.
 
I personnally don't believe in the board material shit, if a player needs that to be motivated for a PO game you have to question what kind of player you draft or trade. It may impact some egomaniac player like kobe, mj to go over the top and trying to take over alone games which is never good unless you are MJ I guess.

Also worst case being a Spurs loss with a subpar Wemby... so what ? Meeting OKC in western finals would be anyway a overachievement for a team coming from a 30 wins season... and Victor will still be 22 y/o with great future ahead.

Victor is a blessing for the Spurs and one of the few answering genuinely to questions that's great... no downside on that.
I def don't think the Spurs need to win a chip this season.. They are ahead of schedule. That is why to me Wemby maybe just dodging that question and playing it humble may have been the better option. But it is what it is now.. And we will see?
 
I def don't think the Spurs need to win a chip this season.. They are ahead of schedule. That is why to me Wemby maybe just dodging that question and playing it humble may have been the better option. But it is what it is now.. And we will see?

Dodging would have been the easy way out and probably what I would have done too but as u said it is what it is. If I had his gift and been talked as the future goat I may very well even more confident than he is
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Dodging would have been the easy way out and probably what I would have done too but as u said it is what it is. If I had his gift and been talked as the future goat I may very well even more confident than he is
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I don't doubt it mon ami :st-lol: , Vic's pretty humble by French standards tbh
 
I don't doubt it mon ami :st-lol: , Vic's pretty humble by French standards tbh

That's actually true... knowing a french speaking english you can notice that he is not being arrogant or condescendenting towards the other contenders. He believes mvp should consider both end of the floor equally that's why he does not consider Luka and Jokic in this conservation contrary to SGA but then he is 4-1 against SGA thus I'm mvp. This interview is a display of cartesian logic.. afterall Descartes is French. It is simple math... D he is number 1 O he is top 10, SGA O 1 D top 20... ce qu'il fallait demontrer

He is certainly onto something here... if we have a DPOY why not also an OPOY and to top it off the MVP, value being measured by wins differential, team impact
 
I don't recall other greats in the 90's etc stating this emphatic a case for MVP. Maybe Jordan did a time or 2? Obviously it was so much different.. When I was a kid it was just highlights and newspapers.. Regardless I am fine with it.. I love Wemby and the Spurs.. As long as Wemby knows if we face off with OKC in the CF this is going to come around again. If the Spurs lose and he under-performs a lot of heat will come down with that.. I can assure you when he said "We dominated OKC" They didn't like that 1 bit.. And Yes I do buy into BB material giving a team this GREAT extra juice.. 100%..
My theory about why players were less vocal about self promotion back in the 00s and prior is more to do with the types of fouls levelled out and also the relationship between players. Back then players will physically attack you to hurt you without thinking twice, the league has tightened this up with suspensions and fines (and suspensions costs a lot more now due to higher salaries) that just stopped this type of non-sense. The only recent one I can think of is Jokic of Morris, which was welcomed by all basketball fans and players alike. Draymond and Dort kept dishing out whatever they dished out because there are no consequences though.

Anyways, point is, if you run your mouth off court, chances are someone will put a bounty on your head in the next game.
 
This is pretty funny, but reality is that in trades, pretty much always go for the best player rather than volume. The team with the best player almost always wins, and it's even more so with the 2nd apron. With a Wemby, the most you pay is the max, you can always get other high level players to compliment him through other means, be it trades, draft (tank) or free agents. If you get, say the top 5 picks in this year's draft, chances are you will be paying a max to one or two of them, and then high cost extensions to the remaining 3 or 4, and that alone will take 100% or more of your cap.

The other part is also you can only put 5 players out on the court. You get all five picks, then that's your starting unit, but if Wemby alone is as good as 2 or more other players, you plug in the other four and things get much better.
 
This is pretty funny, but reality is that in trades, pretty much always go for the best player rather than volume. The team with the best player almost always wins, and it's even more so with the 2nd apron. With a Wemby, the most you pay is the max, you can always get other high level players to compliment him through other means, be it trades, draft (tank) or free agents. If you get, say the top 5 picks in this year's draft, chances are you will be paying a max to one or two of them, and then high cost extensions to the remaining 3 or 4, and that alone will take 100% or more of your cap.

The other part is also you can only put 5 players out on the court. You get all five picks, then that's your starting unit, but if Wemby alone is as good as 2 or more other players, you plug in the other four and things get much better.
That Awful Coaching YouTube guy always says the Spurs are playing 6 on 5 while on defense.
 
My theory about why players were less vocal about self promotion back in the 00s and prior is more to do with the types of fouls levelled out and also the relationship between players. Back then players will physically attack you to hurt you without thinking twice, the league has tightened this up with suspensions and fines (and suspensions costs a lot more now due to higher salaries) that just stopped this type of non-sense. The only recent one I can think of is Jokic of Morris, which was welcomed by all basketball fans and players alike. Draymond and Dort kept dishing out whatever they dished out because there are no consequences though.

Anyways, point is, if you run your mouth off court, chances are someone will put a bounty on your head in the next game.
Also, the significant growth in potential earnings lost both to both players involved now is a strong deterrent to constant intentional injury plays. Retaliation for the Charles Oakleys and Detroit Bad Boys, etc. plays would affect them and their stars who would be targeted.
 
Some names on the list are sketchy but even people in here know and says that Wemby's offensive game is lackluster compared to what it could be. Wemby is a better offensive threat than most of the guys on that list. Problem is, he can be the least consistent as well. There are no teams that should hold him to 12 pts like he's had a few times this season. Still, Nick Wright is talking nonsense here.
 
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