Player The Uncertainty Realm of the Improved Jumpshot of Jeremy Sochan

[scott]

There'll be a new 14th guy to post about

But his thread will be 2 pages and only occasionally bumped... we're at 34 pages in this thread, which is only a half-season old.

I'm gonna go hang out in the Lindy Waters thread.

 

[ambchang]

The main mismanagement is this year where if the spurs do not see a future path for him, at least play him in garbage time to showcase him. He could also be a change of pace guy in one of our multiple collapses this year, it’s not like whoever was on the floor was doing magnificently or something.

Put him on the floor, drum up interests and then sell. Now he’s in a position where he is deemed unplayable and no one can possible want him.

 

[Mugen]

The main mismanagement is this year where if the spurs do not see a future path for him, at least play him in garbage time to showcase him. He could also be a change of pace guy in one of our multiple collapses this year, it’s not like whoever was on the floor was doing magnificently or something.

Put him on the floor, drum up interests and then sell. Now he’s in a position where he is deemed unplayable and no one can possible want him.

They played him on the floor to start the year. He was terrible tbh.

Nobody is gonna up their offer because he has a good week during garbage time minutes.

 

[gospursgo91]

Props to Jeremy for at least having a positive attitude on the bench. Has to be tough once being considered a core piece of the future to be glued to the bench while guys like Barnes get rewarded minutes for being great community guys.

 

[gospursgo91]

They played him on the floor to start the year. He was terrible tbh.

Nobody is gonna up their offer because he has a good week during garbage time minutes.

He missed training camp and preseason. He wasn’t given a fair run this year

 

[LeBowen]

Props to Jeremy for at least having a positive attitude on the bench. Has to be tough once being considered a core piece of the future to be glued to the bench while guys like Barnes get rewarded minutes for being great community guys.

Barnes is still treated like a legit threat from behind the arc even when not making shots.
Jeremy makes it a 4v5 game on offense if he's not directly involved in actions. But when he gets involved, he's not good enough at anything, it makes no sense to change the gameplan to accomodate a bench player.

He missed training camp and preseason. He wasn’t given a fair run this year

Yeah, 3.5 years aren't enough time to become a respectable shooter, at least from the corner.
He was working on his stepback and pull up game this summer.

 

[spurs2112]

Kinda feel bad for the guy. Wasn't he having 30 pt games not to long ago? I wonder want went wrong and if playing him out of position messed with his game. Hope he finds a spot and gets his confidence back.

 

[Mugen]

He was having 20+ point games for a team that was picking Top 5 in the lottery tbh.

 

[scott]

Gonna be really awkward when no one makes an offer for him

 

[spurs2112]

He was having 20+ point games for a team that was picking Top 5 in the lottery tbh.

Doesn't that still show something though? I'm not defending him or wishing he'd stay. Just wondering why/where it went south.

 

[k....]

Gonna be really awkward when no one makes an offer for him

but that s what happens when you decline to extend a guy. teams just wait out the contract and sign as a FA .

 

[tearsofmorningdew]

The main mismanagement is this year where if the spurs do not see a future path for him, at least play him in garbage time to showcase him. He could also be a change of pace guy in one of our multiple collapses this year, it’s not like whoever was on the floor was doing magnificently or something.

Put him on the floor, drum up interests and then sell. Now he’s in a position where he is deemed unplayable and no one can possible want him.

I haven’t really kept track but I feel I can count the number of games we’ve had true garbage time on one hand..maybe one and a half. Feel like the general outcomes are win/lose close, lose big, win big in that order

 

[SpurSpike]

When he plays PF he looks pretty decent. There was a stretch last year where he looked really good playing his natural position. Limited shooting on the roster paired with the recent success killed his playtime with our franchise. Still weird to limit him as much as we did though.

 

[scott]

but that s what happens when you decline to extend a guy. teams just wait out the contract and sign as a FA .

This isn't necessarily true because

1. He'll potential be an RFA
2. Not all teams have cap space
3. Expiring contracts have value too

 

[k....]

I guess. Im assuming hes going to tank team who trys to inflate his stats for flip purposes. Any team that uses him to clear cap space wont sign him.

 

[Sparco41]

Yeah, I'm not going to sit here and say the Spurs managed him perfectly but at the same time it seems a little insane to me to act like it's all on the organization. In today's league you simply have to be at least some sort of offensive threat in one way or another and Sochan isn't that. Also doesn't help that 3-point shooting is one of our biggest weaknesses with this roster as a whole, so finding time to play Sochan becomes even more difficult.

Wish him the best and I wouldn't be TOTALLY shocked if he ends up being a respectable rotation player somewhere else...but he's got an uphill battle for sure. Hopefully we get more than just a couple 2nd round picks or something but I'm not super optimistic.

I didn’t write that Sochan’s poor showing is “all on the organization.” I wrote that his currently poor performance is mainly on him. Thanks.

 

[Raven_]

Gonna be really awkward when no one makes an offer for him

gonna be real awkward when he's all defense first team in two years time

 

[scott]

gonna be real awkward when he's all defense first team in two years time

I'm not familiar with the Chinese league, do they do all defensive teams there?

 

[tim_duncan_fan]

Man, what happened here? Does he really suck that badly? Yes, we should have picked Duren, but Sochan has showed flashes where it looks like he could be valuable to a team. Is something else going on besides basketball?

 

[spurs2112]

Man, what happened here? Does he really suck that badly? Yes, we should have picked Duren, but Sochan has showed flashes where it looks like he could be valuable to a team. Is something else going on besides basketball?

This is what I was wondering as well. Although he did play poorly, I wonder if it was purely a basketball issue or like you said something else. He wasn't perfect but I actually liked his hustle and toughness and like I mentioned in a earlier post he had shown he could put points on the board. I wonder why/how he fell off so fast.

 

[RC_Drunkford]

the reason why I never wanted to draft him was his shot, which didn't exist. Majority of spurstalk wanted to draft this guy though, as far as I can remember.

 

[dn0774]

Man, what happened here? Does he really suck that badly? Yes, we should have picked Duren, but Sochan has showed flashes where it looks like he could be valuable to a team. Is something else going on besides basketball?

I guess looking back in hindsight the question is what was he actually good at in terms of a basketball skill? Decent rebounder though not against size, solid defender against similar size, beyond that I am struggling to think of anything. Neither of those can be considerd game altering skills either. Most of the other "skills" he has aren't actually skills ie toughness, grit, charisma, hustle, etc.

The hope was that an offensive skill or two would be developed along with what was thought to be a nice physical tool set and we could have a solid player on our hands. Turns out the physical tool set wasn't as nice as we thought and it seems his work ethic isn't what it needed to be.

Good luck Jeremy, hope you can find some motivation at your next stop and become a relevant basketball player.

 

[NASpurs]

the reason why I never wanted to draft him was his shot, which didn't exist. Majority of spurstalk wanted to draft this guy though, as far as I can remember.

People said he was going to be the next Bobo or Draymond while he cosplayed as Rodman.

 

[Dex]

 

[poopbox]

The main mismanagement is this year where if the spurs do not see a future path for him, at least play him in garbage time to showcase him. He could also be a change of pace guy in one of our multiple collapses this year, it’s not like whoever was on the floor was doing magnificently or something.

Put him on the floor, drum up interests and then sell. Now he’s in a position where he is deemed unplayable and no one can possible want him.

This whole "play a player to showcase him for a trade" isn't a real thing and plenty of coaches, scouts, etc, have talked about it. Teams feel how they feel about a player and aren't going to be swayed cause the player played 40 good or bad games. If the player looks bad they are going to blame the team the player is on and say he looks bad because of the team. There is no team that didn't want Sochan but saw him play good for 40 games and now want him and there is no team who wanted Sochan and saw him play bad for 40 games and now doesn't want him.