Player The Uncertainty Realm of the Improved Jumpshot of Jeremy Sochan

[gilmor2002]

Jeremy gave the knicks to gameplan to beating us in the nba cup confirmed that's why Mitch didn't play him anymore

You think Mitch potato brain is that smart??

 

[spursparker9]

https://twitter.com/x/status/2022602413484528038

Sochan's agent thanked Pop

 

[spursparker9]

 

[Sparco41]

Spurs couldn’t even get a second round pick from the Knicks for Sochan before the trade deadline?

 

[OK Computer]

It seems Sochan threw a shade at Mitch by omitting him in his goodbye message. From Harper’s recent comments about how Sochan would be honking his car at 4 am to Sochan’s overall demeanor and him being late for practice, I’m starting to connect the dots on why he was on the outside looking in. As a new coach, you want everyone to fall in line. When there’s one member who is constantly causing trouble, it makes everyone doubt your leadership and causes any structure to crumble.

This is why I think anyone we potentially draft in the upcoming draft will be a good soldier. CB is the epitome of one. This is why I can’t see Yaxel as the pick, and potentially Karim too from what I’ve seen in his interviews.

Sochan not being a culture fit might ring true after all @scott

 

[STAT88]

It seems Sochan threw a shade at Mitch by omitting him in his goodbye message. From Harper’s recent comments about how Sochan would be honking his car at 4 am to Sochan’s overall demeanor and him being late for practice, I’m starting to connect the dots on why he was on the outside looking in. As a new coach, you want everyone to fall in line. When there’s one member who is constantly causing trouble, it makes everyone doubt your leadership and causes any structure to crumble.

This is why I think anyone we potentially draft in the upcoming draft will be a good soldier. CB is the epitome of one. This is why I can’t see Yaxel as the pick, and potentially Karim too from what I’ve seen in his interviews.

Sochan not being a culture fit might ring true after all @scott

What’s this horn honking story ?

Jeremy did come across as tardy/unserious.. rumours of being late to meetings/practice seem to align with that.

 

[mo7888]

It seems Sochan threw a shade at Mitch by omitting him in his goodbye message. From Harper’s recent comments about how Sochan would be honking his car at 4 am to Sochan’s overall demeanor and him being late for practice, I’m starting to connect the dots on why he was on the outside looking in. As a new coach, you want everyone to fall in line. When there’s one member who is constantly causing trouble, it makes everyone doubt your leadership and causes any structure to crumble.

This is why I think anyone we potentially draft in the upcoming draft will be a good soldier. CB is the epitome of one. This is why I can’t see Yaxel as the pick, and potentially Karim too from what I’ve seen in his interviews.

Sochan not being a culture fit might ring true after all @scott

I've dropped Yaxel pretty far down my board partially because of that. I haven't heard anything about Karim being a problem... interesting..

 

[Exstatic]

 

[OK Computer]

I've dropped Yaxel pretty far down my board partially because of that. I haven't heard anything about Karim being a problem... interesting..

Purely subjective. Just the vibe I get. I read people. I can be wrong.

Here’s an example. Leaning back in his chair. Sighing or yawning throughout. Generally uninterested. Not very professional. This is just one video out of a few where I’m assessing him.

 

[OK Computer]

What’s this horn honking story ?

Jeremy did come across as tardy/unserious.. rumours of being late to meetings/practice seem to align with that.

Oh my bad. It was at 3 am, not 4 am and it was the bus, not his car

https://twitter.com/x/status/2022392504037867860

 

[CrustyCoastBendFan]

God, if this guy is on an NBA team Next Season....

Not exactly excited for the inevitable Jeremy Sochan tribute video. There’s still an outside chance he won’t be on a team next year or in the coming seasons.

 

[spursparker9]

God, if this guy is on an NBA team Next Season....

Not exactly excited for the inevitable Jeremy Sochan tribute video. There’s still an outside chance he won’t be on a team next year or in the coming seasons.

It was reported that there were 10 teams interested in signing him after the waiver. So I think he can still get a short deal with a nba team. Maybe near Champ deal or the vet min

 

[BacktoBasics]

Yeah, you're entitled to your opinion too.

The strawmen you brought with you are entertaining. I never had a problem with his personality. Or his hairstyle. Or the fact that he...gets on the internet? I'm a Baylor fan. I like him. I wanted him to succeed here. He's a good kid. He always was. He didn't start at Baylor. That didn't make sense four years ago. It does now, at least to me.

His inability to TAKE an open three is what finally made me decide that he's not useful on this team.

Carter Bryant, warts and all, is working his way into the rotation. He's surpassed Sochan. Again, the reason seems pretty plain to me.

I agree Bryant for the time being has definitely surpassed him.

If it’s not the so called strawman then what has you believing that he’s not putting in time to improve.

I don’t think him not being a volume 3pt shooter makes that argument either.

If I had to guess it’s two things. He put in the time and simply isn’t good enough. Not everyone is.

This current coaching system and its roster construction don’t play into his strengths and/or Mitch doesn’t have the patience to shoehorn him in considering we’re not tanking and deep into a seeding run.

Neither of which speak to his work ethic.

 

[Ocotillo]

Obviously some teams were interested but keep in mind the agent may be exaggerating a smidge. I think there will always be a market for a top 10 pick who has been released as a reclamation project.

 

[Ocotillo]

Hell Josh Primo was not top 10 and got another chance. Even with his ..ahem… baggage.

 

[Exstatic]

Obviously some teams were interested but keep in mind the agent may be exaggerating a smidge. I think there will always be a market for a top 10 pick who has been released as a reclamation project.

There was some trade interest, even, but the return contracts were unpalatable to the Spurs.

 

[Raven_]

It seems Sochan threw a shade at Mitch by omitting him in his goodbye message. From Harper’s recent comments about how Sochan would be honking his car at 4 am to Sochan’s overall demeanor and him being late for practice, I’m starting to connect the dots on why he was on the outside looking in. As a new coach, you want everyone to fall in line. When there’s one member who is constantly causing trouble, it makes everyone doubt your leadership and causes any structure to crumble.

This is why I think anyone we potentially draft in the upcoming draft will be a good soldier. CB is the epitome of one. This is why I can’t see Yaxel as the pick, and potentially Karim too from what I’ve seen in his interviews.

Sochan not being a culture fit might ring true after all @scott

I've been saying for months that he isn't playing because mitch doesn't like him, everyone should have picked up the illogical patterns and realize talent or work had nothing to do with it. Now mitch may have been correct in getting rid of him, but given that he has already gotten rid of 7 young players on cheap contracts and kept byombo and signed olynik, i'm going with him just rolling with the players he wanted to feature and clean house,

 

[The Truth #6]

His niche for now could be end of the bench player hockey goon who comes in for a few minutes in the playoffs to piss off the star player in the hopes that they throw a punch. I mean, there's value in that, I guess.

 

[dn0774]

One thing I won't miss is watching Sochan stans twist their brains into mush (mostly redditers tbf) trying to build lineups the Spurs could play in order to maximize Sochan as if he was Luka or something. Then when asked "why go to such lengths to accommodate such a fundamentally flawed player?" they would just call you a hater.

He had every opportunity to carve out a spot at a position of great need and yet his game never improved and somehow at 22 years old he regressed athletically. Now come the trickling reports of him effectively "showing his ass" and being tardy to functions. It looks more like it wasn't Mitch who screwed Jeremy, it was Jeremy who screwed Jeremy and in a contract year no less.

I still wouldn't be surprised to see a different coaching staff and set of players around him improve his results; we saw a completely unplayable for us Zach Collins look serviceable with the Bulls after being traded last year.

 

[1kangaroo]

One thing I won't miss is watching Sochan stans twist their brains into mush (mostly redditers tbf) trying to build lineups the Spurs could play in order to maximize Sochan as if he was Luka or something. Then when asked "why go to such lengths to accommodate such a fundamentally flawed player?" they would just call you a hater.

He had every opportunity to carve out a spot at a position of great need and yet his game never improved and somehow at 22 years old he regressed athletically. Now come the trickling reports of him effectively "showing his ass" and being tardy to functions. It looks more like it wasn't Mitch who screwed Jeremy, it was Jeremy who screwed Jeremy and in a contract year no less.

I still wouldn't be surprised to see a different coaching staff and set of players around him improve his results; we saw a completely unplayable for us Zach Collins look serviceable with the Bulls after being traded last year.

We also had the Polish team game play over the summer funny that team was better with him on the bench not playing with a calf injjury

 

[O_V]

I agree Bryant for the time being has definitely surpassed him.

If it’s not the so called strawman then what has you believing that he’s not putting in time to improve.

I don’t think him not being a volume 3pt shooter makes that argument either.

If I had to guess it’s two things. He put in the time and simply isn’t good enough. Not everyone is.

This current coaching system and its roster construction don’t play into his strengths and/or Mitch doesn’t have the patience to shoehorn him in considering we’re not tanking and deep into a seeding run.

Neither of which speak to his work ethic.

That all seems reasonable. But here's how I measure it: If a guy won't MAKE three pointers, that's one thing. But if a guy won't TAKE three pointers because he's lost confidence early in the season, that indicates to me that he hasn't been working on this stuff. A guy who passes up open shots when they dare him to shoot is not useful on a basketball court in this day and age.

You may see the cause of that differently, but I can't imagine a guy putting up a thousand three pointers a day during the off season is afraid to take shots the second he starts missing.

EDIT: I guess guys like Tony Parker and Jason Kidd and Antonio McDyess and Kawhi Leonard convinced me that hard work can make you a reliable shooter.

 

[scott]

Said this a few months ago, but there was a point (even towards the end of last season) where it was very clear that Sochan was Pop’s project, not Mitch’s.

It’s not Mitch’s job to be a player’s career advocate - and if a guy doesn’t fit his vision for the way the team should play, this is the predictable outcome. Mitch inherited a number of players. He’s made some work (Vassell, Keldon) while casting off the ones he didn’t like (as a player, not personally as far as we know, in Sochan, Branham and Wesley).

I’m just thankful Brian Wright didn’t go Billy Beane on us and force to start Hattiesburg.

 

[O_V]

Said this a few months ago, but there was a point (even towards the end of last season) where it was very clear that Sochan was Pop’s project, not Mitch’s.

It’s not Mitch’s job to be a player’s career advocate - and if a guy doesn’t fit his vision for the way the team should play, this is the predictable outcome. Mitch inherited a number of players. He’s made some work (Vassell, Keldon) while casting off the ones he didn’t like (as a player, not personally as far as we know, in Sochan, Branham and Wesley).

I’m just thankful Brian Wright didn’t go Billy Beane on us and force to start Hattiesburg.

Mitch having his favorites and benching and excluding guys who he doesn't like isn't remotely out of character for a guy who developed under Popovich.

 

[Chinook]

There's nothing wrong with playing guys who fit a system and moving on from guys who don't. That system is a big reason why Keldon looks like a solid piece of the team's puzzle and the three guards look like a strategic advantage rather than a log jam.

It's crazy how bad that 2022 draft class is. Obviously, the Spurs could have walked away with Williams, Kessler and Nembhard/Watson and been set up really well. But SA is far from the only club that's moved on from their pick(s) that season.

 

[scott]

Mitch having his favorites and benching and excluding guys who he doesn't like isn't remotely out of character for a guy who developed under Popovich.

Seems like a thing every single coach who is trying to win does... in all of sports, even at the junior levels. You play the players who you think will best help you win and you don't play the ones you don't.