Player The Burgeoning 3&D American Sign Language Consulate of Carter Bryant

[scott]

I don't think it's too far fetched to expect Bryant to become the next Danny Green.
He's got even better physical attributes and has just turned 20.
Danny broke into the rotation at 24.

Maybe not a 40% shooter, but I'd take 36% from 3pt on 4 attempts with great defense and rebounding.
Doesn't have to anything else...other than not miss dunks.
Hopefully we get him up to speed within a year or two.

Danny Green's is an All Defensive Team award winner with a peak VORP was 3.8, which is well above the control range of outcomes for a #14 pick... so, I'd say that expecting CB to become the next Danny Green is quite far fetched.

 

[LeBowen]

Danny Green's is an All Defensive Team award winner with a peak VORP was 3.8, which is well above the control range of outcomes for a #14 pick... so, I'd say that expecting CB to become the next Danny Green is quite far fetched.

What happened to the positive outlook we're rolling with now?

 

[thiste]

Danny Green's is an All Defensive Team award winner with a peak VORP was 3.8, which is well above the control range of outcomes for a #14 pick... so, I'd say that expecting CB to become the next Danny Green is quite far fetched.

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I understand your point about "expecting" but reminder Danny Green was picked #46.

 

[OK Computer]

Danny Green's is an All Defensive Team award winner with a peak VORP was 3.8, which is well above the control range of outcomes for a #14 pick... so, I'd say that expecting CB to become the next Danny Green is quite far fetched.

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Yeah I was about to say this. People don’t give DG enough credit.

He was a special kind of defender that we took for granted. It’s easy to think that CB staying in front of his man for a play or two and pretend that’s all that DG did. But he was elite at making offense players uncomfortable. Like his hand and body was as close as can be to his matchup without fouling - nearly every play, every game. You barely see lapses on defense from him. On the other hand, where CB is right now is you’d find him where he isn’t supposed to be and often running into other people. Just a complete lack of fundamentals.

 

[LeBowen]

Yeah I was about to say this. People don’t give DG enough credit.

He was a special kind of defender that we took for granted. It’s easy to think that CB staying in front of his man for a play or two and pretend that’s all that DG did. But he was elite at making offense players uncomfortable. Like his hand and body was as close as can be to his matchup without fouling - nearly every play, every game. You barely see lapses on defense from him. On the other hand, where CB is right now is you’d find him where he isn’t supposed to be and often running into other people. Just a complete lack of fundamentals.

Fair points, but did Danny have those fundamentals at his age?
He was averaging 5ppg in college at the same age and had 41/29/84 shooting splits.

I agree that it's unlikely CB becomes the defender Danny was, but you can't deny his elite physical attributes and as long as he learns the defensive fundamentals, he'll be a good contributor on that end.
While he might look lost now, he's a smart kid and I don't see him failing to improve on the basics of positioning and timing.
His shot will obviously decide his overall upside.

 

[Dex]

Still think CB becomes a rotational player down the road at least, but not sure he'll end up becoming the 4 we need tbh.

The tools seem to be there, but he's still just super raw. The fact that he isn't getting run off an NBA floor is a good sign, but he just needs to be able to put in the time and build confidence and it's hard to do that in his limited minutes. With the Spurs, his role is basically "pass the ball along and don't mess up".

 

[onechance87]

Hope he stays there..Dude needs playing time anywhere.

 

[bozhemoi]

Should have been down there ages ago, imo. He had low minutes in college for a reason. Tbh reps in college would be doing him better right now than in G League, but at least he has a chance to learn.

 

[Spurminator]

I'm optimistic. He's obviously physically gifted, and he doesn't come off as entitled or disinterested. He's clearly not NBA ready yet but I think he'll put in the work and get there.

 

[tim_duncan_fan]

People forget: the team had pretty much abandoned defense before Danny Green.

 

[OK Computer]

Fair points, but did Danny have those fundamentals at his age?
He was averaging 5ppg in college at the same age and had 41/29/84 shooting splits.

I agree that it's unlikely CB becomes the defender Danny was, but you can't deny his elite physical attributes and as long as he learns the defensive fundamentals, he'll be a good contributor on that end.
While he might look lost now, he's a smart kid and I don't see him failing to improve on the basics of positioning and timing.
His shot will obviously decide his overall upside.

in my previous post, i said my comments were a judgment of where he is now, and not an indictment on who he is in the future. It’s like I have to say that line in every post for any criticism of CB. The quick defense of CB citing his age while comparing him to great players like DG is too much. Yes, Danny was nowhere as good as he was when he was younger and improved a ton between 19 to 25 or whatever. That doesn’t mean it has to apply to every player. In fact, for every comparable Danny Green-ceilinged player from the past decade who was 19 then and 27 now probably didn’t become as good as Danny. I just think it’s irrelevant to the discussion unless you want to have extremely high optimism for a player you’re stanning.

 

[LeBowen]

in my previous post, i said my comments were a judgment of where he is now, and not an indictment on who he is in the future. It’s like I have to say that line in every post for any criticism of CB. The quick defense of CB citing his age while comparing him to great players like DG is too much. Yes, Danny was nowhere as good as he was when he was younger and improved a ton between 19 to 25 or whatever. That doesn’t mean it has to apply to every player. In fact, for every comparable Danny Green-ceilinged player from the past decade who was 19 then and 27 now probably didn’t become as good as Danny.

I agree, I also always say that everyone has a different career trajectory.
I guess I'm comparing him with Danny because he's the last true 3-D player we had.

I just think it’s irrelevant to the discussion unless you want to have extremely high optimism for a player you’re stanning.

CB is the only athletic wing we have and his jumpshot isn't broken. Enough to have hope, tbh.

At least it doesn't look like we'll regret selecting him because I guess Danny Wolf is the best PF selected after him so far?
Sorber is injured, that's the big question since I'm sure we were picking between him and Bryant.

 

[DAF86]

He needs to tone it down a couple of levels. He's trying way too much. Just relax and play your game.

 

[scott]

I understand your point about "expecting" but reminder Danny Green was picked #46.

Yes, Danny Green was an extreme outlier for a #46 pick.

Manu was picked 57th, but certainly that doesn't mean we should expect any player picked before him to be as good as him.

 

[scott]

What happened to the positive outlook we're rolling with now?

There is positivity (I'm going to go out and make some great career moves this year!) and there are unrealistic expectations (I'm going to win the lottery this year!)

 

[024]

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Finally. Bryant has looked much more raw than expected so some additional development is sorely needed. Though on the plus side, he is also bigger and more athletic than expected. Looking like a boom or bust project.

 

[STAT88]

Im assuming Sochan is going to get those 4-6 minutes that CB has been getting in the 2nd quarter. We won't have to worry about missed dunks when Jeremy just loses the ball on the way up tbh.

get it right he turns around and dribbles away from the basket and kicks it out to the guarded shooter.

 

[Raven_]

i really don't get the CB-DG comparisons, if anything CB should be compared with Kawhi, Danny was a true guard that couldn't handle the ball that is why nobody wanted to give him a chance, but his 3 pointer was always pure, he just didn't have any way to create his own shot. CB is just another forward, i don't see how they relate.

 

[spursparker9]

Good for CB. Don't come back to the Spurs this year and just get all the reps and mins in G league. See you in July Summer League

 

[Spursgenius]

Good for CB. Don't come back to the Spurs this year and just get all the reps and mins in G league. See you in July Summer League

sochan good play took his job

 

[couchman]

Sending CB to the G league was way overdue. I’m glad it has happened. He has flashed excellent potential as a defender and rebounder, but on offense he is obviously in way over his head mentally at the NBA level. If he’s ever in position to do anything other than shoot a spot up 3 he regularly makes the wrong decision. He has short circuited several times on fast breaks and on dunks that should be easy for him. His handle is unreliable.
I think a few hundred live game reps in a lower pressure environment can get him to relax and start making the simple plays. An offseason working on his skills can also help. I remain optimistic that he can become a solid role player.

 

[Paramore]

 

[thiste]

Yes, Danny Green was an extreme outlier for a #46 pick.

Manu was picked 57th, but certainly that doesn't mean we should expect any player picked before him to be as good as him.

Yeah as for Manu it was another time when GMs didn't care for foreign players in Europe. That prejudice still exists now but it's more like being drafted #3 when you should go #1 (talking about Luka here) rather than being drafted #57

 

[Exstatic]

While I have nothing against Bryant going to Austin for a couple of games to get run, those should only come when the Spurs have a couple of days off. I'm very glad that he's not in Austin learning how to be a "star" like the numerous prospects of the team's past. Coming in for a few minutes to guard good NBA players and move around the court is good for him. As far as integrating with the system and fixing that shot, that will take time.

Maybe after a trade or a buyout signing, the team will have legit depth at forward and won't need Bryant to fill that role. I don't blame them for not wanting Sochan as the sole injury replacement at the moment.

What role do you really have while playing 7.6 minutes a game? I don’t want our second LOTTERY pick from last year training up to be an energy guy.

Even at UA he didn’t play that much, slightly under 20 minutes. He probably needs basic basketball skills taught, how to set a screen, do a DHO, what is a rocker step, what is the triple threat position.

 

[Exstatic]

you dont get points for strokes

No, but at that point, it’s just reps. Very rare for a nice stroke to to translate within a few years. Vassell was a 41% shooter from 3 in 2 years at FSU, and it took him three years in the NBA to get close, 39%.

I was watching a pod with Nash and LeBron,gushing over Castle, and they both seem convinced that he will shoot well, based on form alone. I’ll take that as Gospel from as good a shooter as Nash was.