Player The blessed howl's moving Castle of Stephon Javonte

[Ariel]

The thing is, when we’ve missed on guys like Primo or Sochan, they’ve been big swings in the 9 or later picks, because we didn’t have The Guy yet. Houston was taking swings like that with top 4 picks in Green and Amen. Both OTE and the GLI were waiting rooms for kids who didn’t want to be coached in college to waste a year not being developed.

Trade back a few spots in 23, and grab Cason Wallace, a complete player from a high level program. Oh, but his anthropomorphics weren’t off the charts at the combine. Guess what? He’s leading the NBA in steals this year at 2.1, more that either if the supposed premium defender Thompsons. He can shoot the ball, too, and run the point.

Primo was a bad swing lots of us called at the time, I don't know WTF they saw in him. I was in favor of picking Sochan, but TBH he was not a "swing" (to your credit, I remember you advocating for Duren, who turned out much better). Branham and especially Wesley, on the other hand, were swings that likely heavily influenced by the team's lack of talent at the time. But I do agree with your point about the obsession with measurables over guys who know how to play.

PS: antropomorphics?

 

[scott]

Honestly Castle's biggest competition might be from Fox, and I think Castle gets the nod

 

[Ariel]

Honestly Castle's biggest competition might be from Fox, and I think Castle gets the nod

Has to be a Spur, that much is undeniable

PS: I can only imagine the meltdown at clutchfans, I'm stocking up on popcorn just in case.

 

[1kangaroo]

So awesome that Castle brought Olin, The Guard Whisperer, down to SA and revisited the mid-range game. It can take a while to integrate and lock in new ways of doing things. Changes everything if the mid-range is in his bag.

I am not surprised he did something like that you could tell he put in the work during the offseason he showed improvement in his game from his rookie year. That's why I never panicked about his slump young players have a lot of ups and downs it's part of the process . On the same breath if he had showed zero progress between last year and this I would have concerns.

 

[Kick-Stand]

Yeah Castle getting Curry's spot seems a no-brainer. Dillon Brooks getting SGA's spot seems pretty reasonable too. Not sure who to give Giannis' spot to? Maybe Franz Wagner?

 

[scott]

Has to be a Spur, that much is undeniable

PS: I can only imagine the meltdown at clutchfans, I'm stocking up on popcorn just in case.

Trying to think of who else could reasonably even have a case:

I think Keyonte George, TMIII and Cooper Flagg are the only other guys besides Castle and Fox who even deserve consideration at this point. If Harden hadn't got sent to the east he would have been in the conversation.

I could see Silver choosing Flagg simply to feed the hype money machine.

 

[Kick-Stand]

Trying to think of who else could reasonably even have a case:

I think Keyonte George, TMIII and Cooper Flagg are the only other guys besides Castle and Fox who even deserve consideration at this point. If Harden hadn't got sent to the east he would have been in the conversation.

I could see Silver choosing Flagg simply to feed the hype money machine.

The US vs World format kills Flagg's chance to get the nod over Brooks for example.

 

[Ariel]

Trying to think of who else could reasonably even have a case:

I think Keyonte George, TMIII and Cooper Flagg are the only other guys besides Castle and Fox who even deserve consideration at this point. If Harden hadn't got sent to the east he would have been in the conversation.

I could see Silver choosing Flagg simply to feed the hype money machine.

Keyonte George has a case for MIP, not all star. TMIII cannot make a claim while playing in New Orleans, they're the laughing stock of the league and they can't have the same # of all stars as the #2 seed. Cooper Flagg is a rookie, a really good one, but if Wemby didn't make it neither should he. I can't see the Spurs not getting a second all star in favor of players with horrendous team records. That mattered when the Spurs were bad, it should matter now that they're good.

 

[scott]

Keyonte George has a case for MIP, not all star. TMIII cannot make a claim while playing in New Orleans, they're the laughing stock of the league and they can't have the same # of all stars as the #2 seed. Cooper Flagg is a rookie, a really good one, but if Wemby didn't make it neither should he. I can't see the Spurs not getting a second all star in favor of players with horrendous team records. That mattered when the Spurs were bad, it should matter now that they're good.

We were 12th in the West when Dejounte was named an All-Star replacement in 2021-22. (And also made All Star, but not MIP... that went to a former ROTY for some bizarre reason... I'm guessing the league wishes they had that one back given the way it's turned out)

I agree Castle should be the guy... but Nosferatu works in mysterious ways.

I'd probably rank those 5 guys as such:

Castle
George
Fox
TMIII
Flagg

Could absolutely see them handing it to Flagg though to build the legend of the "All American Superstar"

 

[TimmyBuckets]

Hmm I think Fox is more deserving tbh overall.

 

[Robz4000]

Keyonte George has a case for MIP, not all star. TMIII cannot make a claim while playing in New Orleans, they're the laughing stock of the league and they can't have the same # of all stars as the #2 seed. Cooper Flagg is a rookie, a really good one, but if Wemby didn't make it neither should he. I can't see the Spurs not getting a second all star in favor of players with horrendous team records. That mattered when the Spurs were bad, it should matter now that they're good.

In the same vein, Spurs struggled to get two All Stars when they had the Big 3 tbh.

 

[spursistan]

For the sake of locker room stability I prefer Fox to get the nod over Castle for ASG reserve. Castle will get there eventually on merit. We need Fox to maintain as much pedigree as possible around the league before we inevitably move him in near future.

 

[Ariel]

For the sake of locker room stability I prefer Fox to get the nod over Castle for ASG reserve. Castle will get there eventually on merit. We need Fox to maintain as much pedigree as possible around the league before we inevitably move him in near future.

I actually agree with this, strategically it'd be better if it were Fox: helps build his trade value, and won't inflate Castle's upcoming extension as much. But Castle deserves it more, honestly.

 

[DAF86]

Trying to think of who else could reasonably even have a case:

I think Keyonte George, TMIII and Cooper Flagg are the only other guys besides Castle and Fox who even deserve consideration at this point. If Harden hadn't got sent to the east he would have been in the conversation.

I could see Silver choosing Flagg simply to feed the hype money machine.

Lakers fans are lobbying for Austin Reaves. His numbers are worthy but I can't accept the Lakers having 3 all-stars while the Spurs only have one.

 

[scott]

Lakers fans are lobbying for Austin Reaves. His numbers are worthy but I can't accept the Lakers having 3 all-stars while the Spurs only have one.

Homie has only played in half their games this year, but it would be hilarious and also very on brand for the Lakers to get 3 All-Stars and still get pushed down to the play-in.

 

[100%Duncan]

Contract extensions be damned, I would love for the kid to be an all-star in his 2nd year. Just like Wemby did.

 

[dn0774]

Love Castle but look at his game logs since Xmas, it’s very ugly other than a few decent outings. His sub par play is a big reason for that 9-9 stretch after okc on Xmas. Fox has been meh too. Neither has a solid all star case honestly even with the injuries.

 

[DAF86]

Love Castle but look at his game logs since Xmas, it’s very ugly other than a few decent outings. His sub par play is a big reason for that 9-9 stretch after okc on Xmas. Fox has been meh too. Neither has a solid all star case honestly even with the injuries.

As solid a case as Holmgren's, and they picked him outright, not as a replacement. So, sorry if I'm expecting the same kind of treatment for Spurs players, tbh.

 

[timtonymanu]

What was it, Jalen Green, JBS Jr, Amen, and Sheppard? Yikes. People complain about us not landing picks in the teens and twenties. These are all bad misses. Three of them aren't really bad players, but very limited and mostly role players.

Lol @djohn2008

 

[dn0774]

As solid a case as Holmgren's, and they picked him outright, not as a replacement. So, sorry if I'm expecting the same kind of treatment for Spurs players, tbh.

Yea I can’t get there, Chet is having a nice season. I’d love to see more usage out of Chet but they just aren’t that kind of team right now. Randle should get the nod for next replacement imo.

Castle has awesome highs but terrible lows, needs to be more consistent for legit all star conversation.

 

[ambchang]

I’d put my money on Flagg if I was a betting man. Just way too much money on the table.

 

[DAF86]

Yea I can’t get there, Chet is having a nice season. I’d love to see more usage out of Chet but they just aren’t that kind of team right now. Randle should get the nod for next replacement imo.

Castle has awesome highs but terrible lows, needs to be more consistent for legit all star conversation.

You know who else are having nice seasons? Fox and Castle, tbh.

 

[scott]

lol Silver just ignoring that there are Western and Eastern Conferences and picking BI to replace Curry.

Strangely... Giannis has not been ruled out of the All Star game for whatever reason... that's weird.

 

[LeBowen]

lol Silver just ignoring that there are Western and Eastern Conferences and picking BI to replace Curry.

Yeah, makes no sense.
Especially since Harden also moved East.

 

[ginobilized]

Such a weird choice for BI. I thought scott was joking. I don't mind Castle finishing the season with a chip on his shoulder and more to prove.