Trade Spurs Trade Ideas

I understand the contract of Vassell will be a problem at some point. If we discuss trading for a quality (starting) role player, he will get (or demand) money in the region of the Vassell contract. While Vassell might be seen as a quality role player by some, I wouldn't rank him there. So, if Spurs want to improve his spot, he will be the contract to move and therefore get a player with a similar contract (or less expensive), who ist either better, or a better fit.

So, I would be all in for a TM3 trade, but we might ask what other player could be had for that 25-30M per salary. Would Wiggins sign an extension for that money, assuming he will opt out this summer. Like, say, 3 years /80 M? Would the Heat trade him for Vassell, if they think they will lose him after this season?
 
PocketMonger said:
People are over-fixated on defense. The Spurs have the best DRTG in the NBA when Wemby is on the floor. Better than the next best team (OKC) by three points. Wemby is playing 36MPG in the playoffs (if healthy God willing) so defense wont do this team in come playoff time but outside shooting absolutely could.

This is why someone like Bobby Portis would be a good target. He's a bigger, better rebounding Barnes and would push HB to the bench. Plus he shouldn't cost much, has tons of playoff experience with 1.5 years of control.
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Portis, Hachimura and Bey should be the top 3 targets. Don't need a first round pick for none of them. Just send them a package with some second rounders. After those guys I'd say Jalen Smith wouldn't be a bad fit either as well as Dean Wade.
 
Bruno said:
Trading for Bobby Portis likely means that Spurs won't be able to keep both Champagnie and KJ after 2027. Given their ages and what Champagie and KJ are showing this season, I rather stick with them.
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not true at all. Portis contract expires in 2027. You're just saying that because you'd like to renegotiate everybody's contract while they still signed for cheap.
 
Vienna said:
I understand the contract of Vassell will be a problem at some point. If we discuss trading for a quality (starting) role player, he will get (or demand) money in the region of the Vassell contract. While Vassell might be seen as a quality role player by some, I wouldn't rank him there. So, if Spurs want to improve his spot, he will be the contract to move and therefore get a player with a similar contract (or less expensive), who ist either better, or a better fit.

So, I would be all in for a TM3 trade, but we might ask what other player could be had for that 25-30M per salary. Would Wiggins sign an extension for that money, assuming he will opt out this summer. Like, say, 3 years /80 M? Would the Heat trade him for Vassell, if they think they will lose him after this season?
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TM3 would get no more shots than Vassell does. Any additional would have to come from Fox,Wemby,Castle, or Harper. He would just be the new guy to say “why are we paying this dude so much when he only scores 14 points?”.
 
Exstatic said:
TM3 would get no more shots than Vassell does. Any additional would have to come from Fox,Wemby,Castle, or Harper. He would just be the new guy to say “why are we paying this dude so much when he only scores 14 points?”.
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I feel like our biggest need is a legit PF or a PF/C, Aldama being the prime target.
Castle guardin Sengun for a stretch was nice, but in reality our lack of size at PF will be the biggest issue in most matchups.
Barnes would get murdered by Gordon and Randle, even Lebron.

And he's also a nice connector, knows how to play.
If only there was another Diaw, would be just perfect for this team.
 
LeBowen said:
I feel like our biggest need is a legit PF or a PF/C, Aldama being the prime target.
Castle guardin Sengun for a stretch was nice, but in reality our lack of size at PF will be the biggest issue in most matchups.
Barnes would get murdered by Gordon and Randle, even Lebron.

And he's also a nice connector, knows how to play.
If only there was another Diaw, would be just perfect for this team.
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I want a big who can shoot, rebound,and is at
least defensively neutral.
 
LeBowen said:
I feel like our biggest need is a legit PF or a PF/C, Aldama being the prime target.
Castle guardin Sengun for a stretch was nice, but in reality our lack of size at PF will be the biggest issue in most matchups.
Barnes would get murdered by Gordon and Randle, even Lebron.

And he's also a nice connector, knows how to play.
If only there was another Diaw, would be just perfect for this team.
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Julius scoring averages is below his season average when he faces the Spurs with Barnes as the starting PF. This sounds really made up now, when you actually look at the games played. The before-season narratives linger because that’s what your beliefs hold, when it’s (the idea that the Spurs need a taller PF to face off opposing good PFs) clearly wrong more often than right.
 
Exstatic said:
I want a big who can shoot, rebound,and is at
least defensively neutral.
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The issue is that everyone who can do all those things costs a lot. Both in assets and cap space.

OK Computer said:
Julius scoring averages is below his season average when he faces the Spurs with Barnes as the starting PF. This sounds really made up now, when you actually look at the games played. The before-season narratives linger because that’s what your beliefs hold, when it’s (the idea that the Spurs need a taller PF to face off opposing good PFs) clearly wrong more often than right.
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Randle is the definition of inconsistency. But when he gets going, he's the difference maker for Minnesota because Edwards usually does his part.
Regular season is one thing, playoffs are completely different.
Wemby can get up to the required level of doing it all by himself in the paint once every handful of regular season games, but everyone's plan in the playoffs will be to beat him up and punish the fact that Barnes is on 1 rebound per 30 minutes played pace.
We need different personnel for different matchups.
 
If the idea is for getting a contract that lasts till 2027..then the Spurs should kick the tires on a trade for Michael Porter Jr and see what it would take to pry him from the Nets. If it's just one FRP, a swap and a few SRPs for Barnes, Olynyk and Sochan...the Spurs should just go for it. But anything more should give them pause.
 
If we don't go for a bigger move (which I'd like to see) then to me the lower end move I'd like to see is Olynyk + Sochan + 2 2nds for Rui + Knecht
 
There absolutely won't be a big impact trade, but I can see a Sochan (and Kelly) for someone in need of a second chance (Knecht?) move.
 
PocketMonger said:
Pick two:

1. Can Shoot.
2. Can defend and rebound.
3. Won't cost a ton of assets to acquire and retain.
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1 and 3.

Unless Spurs really think they can get that one magic piece that is going to put it all together, not worth sacrificing future flexibility for a win-now piece just to go all in on this year.
 
CGD said:
This one is confusing. I thought he was "so instrumental" to their success, etc.
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They needed him to get past Dallas and their big man cadre. Mavs won’t be a playoff factor for a while, and IHart is a huge burden on the OKC apron figure.
 
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