Trade Spurs Trade Ideas

If we win a title with this core in the next 2-3 years, I think castle and Harper may get the jdub/chet treatment of being handed max deals as a reward for team success. I think that was a misstep for OKC but I also think they’ll be fine obviously.

The nba doesn’t know how to route really good young players into $25 million contracts. The math gets too hard and it’s always “just do the rookie max”. Which the leads to “just do the max”. There’s no nuance on the second contract for high pedigree guys that panned out but aren’t world beaters. Even kuminga’s deal this year…what the fuck was that based on. Just crazy self inflicted inflation.
 
I could use a good Zhang Bang right about now.

Barring that, my expectation is that the Spurs make a micro-move if any move at all at the deadline. The braintrust that chose Luke Kornet could not have picked a better player to both integrate into the Spurs culture and immediately anchor the team with solid play. Last season, we sucked without Wemby. Many here stated that backup center is need #1 to fill. Now we have the 3rd best record in the league. I think they can solve our PF issue, but, they will choose wisely and it might take longer than this forum would like, myself included. The Spurs growth arc might benefit from more development before constructing a championship level team, at least, this season. The Spurs could find a bunch of players better than Harrison Barnes for our starting PF. I just don't see them going for a shorter term player. If that player isn't a championship-level PF or young and talented enough to grow into that role, I see us waiting. I'm sure that Sadiq Bey would give us more than HB, but, I'm also sure that he's not the final major piece to the master puzzle.

Sochan seems to have been a decent soldier as his role has diminished. He might get rewarded with a favorable trade, but, for which team is he an upgrade other than his expiring contract? Sam Hauser would be amazing, but, his marksmanship of late will make him more expensive now. The waiver wire boneyard might turn up something, too.
 
ginobilized said:
I could use a good Zhang Bang right about now.

Barring that, my expectation is that the Spurs make a micro-move if any move at all at the deadline. The braintrust that chose Luke Kornet could not have picked a better player to both integrate into the Spurs culture and immediately anchor the team with solid play. Last season, we sucked without Wemby. Many here stated that backup center is need #1 to fill. Now we have the 3rd best record in the league. I think they can solve our PF issue, but, they will choose wisely and it might take longer than this forum would like, myself included. The Spurs growth arc might benefit from more development before constructing a championship level team, at least, this season. The Spurs could find a bunch of players better than Harrison Barnes for our starting PF. i just don't see them going for a shorter term player. If that player isn't a championship-level PF or young and talented enough to grow into that role, I see us waiting. I'm sure that Sadiq Bey would give us more than HB, but, I'm also sure that he's not the final major piece to the master puzzle.

Sochan seems to have been a decent soldier as his role has diminished. He might get rewarded with a favorable trade, but, for which team is he an upgrade other than his expiring contract? Sam Hauser would be amazing, but, his marksmanship of late will make him more expensive now. The waiver wire boneyard might turn up something, too.
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During the Big Three run, the Spurs did little else other than fit in short term pieces.Rasho,Nazr,Willis and Malik on the big side, Barry and Finley on the wings, I can easily see them getting a short term fix for a couple of years, and doing that again after that one rolls off. Not everyone will be on the train for the whole run.
 
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During the Big Three run, the Spurs did little else other than fit in short term pieces.Rasho,Nazr,Willis and Malik on the big side, Barry and Finley on the wings, I can easily see them getting a short term fix for a couple of years, and doing that again after that one rolls off. Not everyone will be on the train for the whole run.
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Which is what I was saying upgrade around the margins basically the role players around your core and with the new aprons that is going to me more important than ever in the future
 
Exstatic said:
During the Big Three run, the Spurs did little else other than fit in short term pieces.Rasho,Nazr,Willis and Malik on the big side, Barry and Finley on the wings, I can easily see them getting a short term fix for a couple of years, and doing that again after that one rolls off. Not everyone will be on the train for the whole run.
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I think that's the likely approach once we have a 'Big 3", I'm not sure we have determined that yet though.
 
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Didn't a lot of spurs fans want Yabusele this past summer. Now the Knicks don't want him. What's wrong with this picture ? Is Mike Brown making him run too many laps or what ? Hopefully the spurs are doing their homework on this guy other than he's Wemby;s pal.
 
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Maybe Yabu only plays well when he is on same roster as Wemby.
 
https://twitter.com/x/status/2015531027666759924

"In discussions with the Spurs, the Knicks have inquired about 2022 ninth overall pick Jeremy Sochan, sources said. Sochan is in the final year of his rookie contract and will be a restricted free agent in the summer. His defensive versatility at either forward position and slashing abilities on offense would fit in with New York's style of play.

Although Sochan has been out of the Spurs' rotation, there has been internal pushback in San Antonio to the idea of trading him, sources said. The Spurs still value Sochan's presence and have yet to indicate they will actually trade him before this year's deadline. While San Antonio does hold interest in adding more frontcourt help behind star big man Victor Wembanyama, Yabusele is no longer as high on the target list.

Despite being friends with Wembanyama due to their time with the French national team, the Spurs are said to be evaluating other options on the trade market, which is why discussions with the Knicks cooled late this past week. Many around the NBA are wondering if San Antonio is closing in on a deal using Kelly Olynyk's expiring $13.4 million cap slot."


Good to hear that the FO is not that high on Yabu either.
 
I’d rather keep Sochan than land yabusele. In a vacuum it’s kind of a wash but some more offensive juice. But i don’t want any part of that player option next year
 
I’m not sure what he does for us, but Sochan/Kelly for Hunter should work. Given they have an insanely expansive roster (think 1 or 2) i wonder if they’d even have to throw something too.
 
Right now, I think there are 4 different kind of trades Spurs could do:

1) Getting a Barnes replacement:
Barnes is aging and will be a free agent this summer. Spurs will have to replace him sooner or later. They can wait this summer to see how Bryant has improved and what will happen during the draft or they can be proactive and fix that issue right now. A first round pick could be traded in that move for the right player.

2) Getting some depth:
Spurs could loook to add some useful players behind their main 9 players rotation. A shooter or a shotblocking center would make some sense. They should only trade Olynyk/Sochan/McLaughlin/Waters/Biyombo and second round picks to get these players.

3) Using their space below the tax threshold:
Spurs are $5.7M below the tax. They could do a trade that will raise their payroll to help a team paying the tax. They should get very little in that move like a second round pick or some cash considerations.

4) Doing a nice gesture to Sochan:
If Sochan has asked to be traded, Spurs could be kind with him and trade him to a team interested in him without asking a lot.
 
CGD said:
Even the most strident Sochan hater (who is also not an idiot nor troll) can see a Sochan for Yabu swap straight up is moronic. Save that piece to combo trade with Kelly and a pick for something better.
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Have you considered that a guy who is healthy yet never plays is the appropriate value in a trade for a guy who is healthy yet never plays?

Both guys are not wanted, generally speaking. Sochan could garner some niche interest from any of the GM’s in the league who don’t follow the league. But I don’t think there are many of those.

…but Yabu seems to be an experiment in working hard for a short period of time to make enough money to retire but not enough to secure generational wealth. Seems like working out and eating healthy are not in the cards due to…reasons. Quite a thing.
 
Sochan is another Stanley Johnson, just in Rodman cosplay.
Hunter can actually shoot.
 
CGD said:
Even the most strident Sochan hater (who is also not an idiot nor troll) can see a Sochan for Yabu swap straight up is moronic. Save that piece to combo trade with Kelly and a pick for something better.
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I felt as though you could have been directly speaking to me with this post... and... yes, you are correct. I'd rather just keep Sochan at that point than add an extra year of Yaba Daba Doo Doo
 
I don’t love Hunter per se, but I do wonder how much it’s worth to CLE to shave that salary for another year given their tax situation. He could also be a potential Barnes replacement for a year as they continue to see what they have in Bryant ahead of the critical Year 3 jump.
 
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