Trade Spurs Trade Ideas

[LeBowen]

That's a good point about Zac being a high floor player. Good size and defense with a volume three ball. He would be the long term replacement for Barnes.

I think Bryant is the long term replacement for Barnes, but in modern NBA you want as many legit 3-D wings as you can get.

Spurs are closer to the title than anyone thought - like this year close. I can't imagine they'll trade for Risacher, who requires playing time now, and isn't going to contribute to winning at this current time.

The issue is that we can't really know who will be the weak link in the playoffs until our guys get tested properly.
And someone will surely be the weak link, that's how it always goes.
But you can't write someone off because of one year, we won't know who are the legit long term pieces until summer 2027 at the earliest. Other than the obvious ones.

We went over it many times and there aren't really any legit targets we can get for Sochan+Olynyk money and Spurs surely won't use more than 1 FRP, if that.
Everything else are moves on the margins and won't be the difference makers.
Could let's say Saddiq Bey or Dean Wade help us? Sure, but I doubt they'd be the difference makers between winning a series or not.

Dean Wade goes from 36% 3pt in the regular season to 24% in the playoffs.
Bey also has just that one series he played with the Hawks, if we're trading for win now role players, they should be more experienced than that.

Just to be clear, I'm not saying I don't want those two, it's just that I don't think they'd be the difference makers in the playoffs.

 

[RC_Drunkford]

If you think a change of scenery will bring out a better version of Risacher, you do it. On paper he still is a player who should fit well.

But if you are willing to give up the Hawks pick, you should also be able to assemble a package that is interesting for the Pels in a TM3 deal. And comparing TM3 and Risacher considering the teams needs, I would go with the latter. I know, this might cause cap issues 2027, but I think you can solve this when you are there.

b-b-but where would Risacher's minutes come from? We are already playing a 9-man rotation, why would we need 11?

 

[RC_Drunkford]

Well, you might be a math genious, but unfortunately you are not very familiar with the game of basketball.

You really back up your point by 17 minutes Waters played in a blow out game??? You can give these 17 minutes in this specific game to prime Lebron and it doesn't change to outcome much.

You seem to believe a 11 man rotation is superior to a 9 man rotation. Congratulations genious, you just lost 8 out of the last 10.

you have no clue what you are talking about. Waters didn't play at all against ATL. Thanks for taking the bait and showing how stupid you are

 

[BacktoBasics]

And like whoever they draft in the 10-15 range will be more ready to help us win a championship over the next 2.5 years? Again as long as the pick is top four protected its worth looking at.

I would not attach a top 12 pick for Risacher. I’d rather roll the dice on the pick. CB is already a more interesting player.

 

[PocketMonger]

I would not attach a top 12 pick for Risacher. I’d rather roll the dice on the pick. CB is already a more interesting player.

Bryant is more athletic but Zac is easily the better basketball player as of today. Bryant is only one year younger than Zac and nowhere near as polished.

 

[BacktoBasics]

Bryant is more athletic but Zac is easily the better basketball player as of today. Bryant is only one year younger than Zac and nowhere near as polished.

Yeah I completely understand that. This team shouldn’t be in any hurry. CB has great upside and I’d rather use the pick on some other need or potential trade.

 

[PocketMonger]

Plus it also needs to be noted that the Spurs would be ripping up pick swap so the trade really boils down to Zac+ the Spurs own first or just the Hawks pick straight up.

I’d rather have Zac plus a late first than a pick in the 10-15 range. If the Hawks land AD that pick might land in 15-20 range.

 

[BacktoBasics]

Plus it also needs to be noted that the Spurs would be ripping up pick swap so the trade really boils down to Zac+ the Spurs own first or just the Hawks pick straight up.

I’d rather have Zac plus a late first than a pick in the 10-15 range. If the Hawks land AD that pick might land in 15-20 range.

AD can’t stay healthy. Has had zero impact on winning. I think it’s a coin toss at best that he helps this team.

 

[scott]

The Spurs have up to 16 SRPs over the next 7 years (but at least 14... and if I was betting I'd say most likely 15), including 2 or 3 (probably 3) this year and up to 4 (probably 3) in 2028 and 3 in 2029... so I thought it would be worthwhile to look at which teams could use SRPs. You can then see if there are any possible deals on those rosters.

ATL: No SRPs in 2027 or 2028
BOS: No SRPs in 2027, 2029, or 2030. Possibly none in 2028
CHI: No SRP in 2026 or 2027
CLE: No SRP in 2029, 2030 or 2031 (Dean Wade... hi...)
DAL: No SRP in 2026, 2027, 2028, 2029 or 2031
DEN: No SRP in 2026, 2027, 2029, 2030, 2031, probably not in 2028 either
GSW: No SRP in 2026, 2027, 2028, 2029, 2031, possibly not in 2030 or 2032 either
HOU: No SRP in 2030 or 2032
IND: Possibly not in 2026, until they flash some cash at us, that is
LAC: No SRP in 2027, 2028, 2029, 2030, possibly not in 2026
LAL: No SRP until 2032
MEM: No SRP in 2027 and 2028
MIA: No SRP from 2029-2032, possibly not in 2026
MIL: No SRP from 2027-2032, possibly not in 2026
MIN: No SRP in 2028 (it's coming to us), possibly not in 2029 or 2030
NOP: No SRP in 2026 (or a FRP), 2027, 2028 (coming to us), 2029 (coming to us again)... (Seddiq Bey... Hi...)
NYK: No SRP in 2029, 2030, 2031... but they have up to 3 this year and up to 4 next year so they should be able to punt some down the road if they want
PHI: No SRP in 2026
PHX: No SRP in 2027, 2028, 2030 or 2031
POR: Possibly no SRP in 2026
SAC: No SRP in 2028, 2030 (coming to us), 2031 (coming to us again)
TOR: No SRP in 2031
UTA: No SRP in 2026 (coming to us)

I thought this would be useful, because I do think we're going to see SRP values increase and become more important under the new apron rules and as NIL keeps guys in school longer

 

[Bruno]

^ Another way to look at second round picks is to look at how many Spurs have of them year by year:
2026 : 3
2027 : 1
2028 : 3
2029 : 3
2030 : 3
2031 : 2
2032 : 1

Spurs might trade one or two of their second round picks on draft day this summer and prioritizing getting future second round picks in years when they don't have a lot of them (2027, 2031 and 2032).

 

[Vienna]

you have no clue what you are talking about. Waters didn't play at all against ATL. Thanks for taking the bait and showing how stupid you are

He didn't? Well.....That's news to the world, but hey, obviously a weird character like you doesn't care about facts. as I mentioned, run for office, now is your turn.

 

[CGD]

I'm kinda intrigued that ATL seems to me making Risacher available. He's probably more talented than whats available in the 13-16 range even in this draft, no?

 

[Seventyniner]

Risacher would be a huge upgrade over the current Spurs PF crop, but he would be due for an extension at the same time as Castle. I don't think the Spurs can afford Wemby max + Castle max + Risacher extension (he might get offered 25-30M per season), especially with Harper's extension kicking in a year later.

 

[OK Computer]

I'm kinda intrigued that ATL seems to me making Risacher available. He's probably more talented than whats available in the 13-16 range even in this draft, no?

Oh man, I’m so glad to be right about Risacher when many were in love with the dude

 

[DTW]

Risacher being available as part of a package for Davis is not the same thing as his being available period and either way, he's strictly a SF, so he wouldn't fill the Spurs PF need.

 

[rascal]

Risacher being available as part of a package for Davis is not the same thing as his being available period and either way, he's strictly a SF, so he wouldn't fill the Spurs PF need.

Exactly

They would ask for Castle or Harper for Risacher.

 

[CGD]

Risacher being available as part of a package for Davis is not the same thing as his being available period and either way, he's strictly a SF, so he wouldn't fill the Spurs PF need.

Crazy to think that RZ would headline an AD trade

 

[ginobilized]

The more I think about it, I'd rather take a swing for Risacher than a Dean Wade at 29 yrs old. Risacher would make our defense much better and would benefit from the downhill games of Fox/Castle/Harper. Doubtful to happen, but, I could see it.

 

[mo7888]

Risacher would be a huge upgrade over the current Spurs PF crop, but he would be due for an extension at the same time as Castle. I don't think the Spurs can afford Wemby max + Castle max + Risacher extension (he might get offered 25-30M per season), especially with Harper's extension kicking in a year later.

It would be a great problem to have..

 

[timtonymanu]

If the spurs want to stand pat and lose in the 1st round, carry on.

Otherwise a trade is needed.

 

[RC_Drunkford]

He didn't? Well.....That's news to the world, but hey, obviously a weird character like you doesn't care about facts. as I mentioned, run for office, now is your turn.

All I do is state facts. You're the one pulling vague arguments out of your ass. Sochan played 21 minutes in that game. So where are the minutes going to come from? How can we possibly play a 10th guy when Carter Bryant got minutes yesterday and we played 10 players? You still haven't figured out an explanation

 

[RC_Drunkford]

I'm kinda intrigued that ATL seems to me making Risacher available. He's probably more talented than whats available in the 13-16 range even in this draft, no?

I don't think so. There are better PF prospects in this draft at that range than Risacher was in a weak draft class. Those guys are as much of a project as he is or like Lendeborg, super polished and older.

The more I think about it, I'd rather take a swing for Risacher than a Dean Wade at 29 yrs old. Risacher would make our defense much better and would benefit from the downhill games of Fox/Castle/Harper. Doubtful to happen, but, I could see it.

Risacher would cost us a first round pick. Dean Wade wouldn't. ATL would most likely want their 27 back to add it to a package for AD.

 

[Vienna]

All I do is state facts. You're the one pulling vague arguments out of your ass. Sochan played 21 minutes in that game. So where are the minutes going to come from? How can we possibly play a 10th guy when Carter Bryant got minutes yesterday and we played 10 players? You still haven't figured out an explanation

Ah Mr Backpedaling is on the run. I just asked how you manage minutes for another average player and you came up with some imbecile nonsense and when I questioned such great reasoning like "I give the 17 minutes waters played against the Hawks" you claim you tricked me because he didn't at all play that game and now you claim you state facts......well, your pubertal personality is obviously proud to be a drunk, but hey, it doesn't really help your argumentation.

 

[Arguendo]

Heard an interesting trade proposal: Kuminga + Hield for Gafford + Klay, but both teams are in first apron, so I don't think either could take back more salary. Spurs are about $5.6M from the salary tax and could use a floor spacing big/3rd center. Kuminga for Gafford might make more sense but the numbers are way off.

Kuminga will get moved, Gafford helps as a win-now guy and GSW could desperately use a 25mpg C to take some pressure off Dreymond at 5.

I'd be very interested to take a Horford salary dump, don't think he'd work for just BB, but Horford + Melton for Sochan + BB works in the trade machine. Maybe Horford's done, but maybe its just the situation and being asked to do too much as the only real C on that team. He'd be nice a sized expiring next yr to help facilitate other trades and I'd much rather have him than BB and/or Sochan.

 

[mo7888]

On the topic of trying to pry Risacher out of a Dallas deal, I'm not inclined to give up the 26 swap. I'd rather give up the unprotected 27 pick.