Analysis Spurs rotations and depth chart

Their bigs are also pretty athletic. Honestly, Dallas might be the worst match-up for the Spurs in the NBA currently tbh.
 
spurraider21 said:
they're going to be driving against Flagg who can recover and block from behind while going into great shotblockers in AD/Lively. going to be very daunting
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Sounds like someone in Silver and Black will be ready for a nice feed in the dunker spot
 
I see the Spurs struggle against Dallas as well. Probably a loss on opening night in front of a hyped Dallas crowd.
 
scott said:
Sounds like someone in Silver and Black will be ready for a nice feed in the dunker spot
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Oh yeah Harrison Barnes gonna eat from the dunker spot lol

This is why korndog is the better option to start. Makes sense on both ends
 
spurraider21 said:
So… assuming Dallas proceeds to start the big lineup they’ve shown in the last 2 games with Flagg, Klay, PJ, Davis, Lively… i think we need to start Korndog and bench Barnes.

Castle defends point Flagg, Julian and Devin defend the wings, you probably open with Vic guarding Davis and Luke on Lively. If Vic gets a quick foul you switch his assignment with Kornet.

Starting Barnes at the 4… i don’t see how we don’t just get demolished in the paint and on the boards.
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That’s what I thought.

Castle/Vassell/Champ/Vic/Korndog to start against this behemoth team.

And Harper/Keldon/Barnes off the bench.

If they wanna win I don’t think anyone else should get minutes.
 
Does Champ starting at PF rearrange anyone's thoughts on our rotations?

Thinking about the idealized lineup to build around Wemby, I like the idea of Wemby, Harper, Castle, two 6"8 wings with elite athleticism who can shoot (Carter Bryant and another guy like Carter Bryant). Yeah, I think I like this.
 
CGD said:
True, but we’re all eager to see what it looks like when the team is whole. My hope is Mitch doesn’t stick with Barnes too long. I know he has his warts, but I can’t see them NOT starting Sochan at the 4 (unless they want to start with French Vanilla).

I’m thinking:

Fox-Vassell-Champ-Sochan-Wemby
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Barnes has an iron man and starting streak that I don't see the Spurs breaking.

Sochan fits well with Wembanyama, but the problem is Wembanyama should be the offensive hub, not reduced to a floor spacer or have less advantageous matchups while playing in a crowd because opposing teams will cross match their center onto Sochan and ignore him.
 
Can we start talking about a 12-man rotation?

It makes sense if we have the horses, and this is the direction the game is going (well, it feels like OKC & Indy go 12 deep). Instead of navigating "65" games for your stars (really, Wemby and Fox), instead dial it back more often and give them several 10-15 minute games.

And, while we're way past past tanking, we still have tons of development to do. If I'm the coach, I'd want to step in this direction (of bigger rotations).

One last point in favor of large rotations, guys manning slots 7,8,9... need to feel constant heat, and lots of it.
 
Guru of Nothing said:
Can we start talking about a 12-man rotation?

It makes sense if we have the horses, and this is the direction the game is going (well, it feels like OKC & Indy go 12 deep). Instead of navigating "65" games for your stars (really, Wemby and Fox), instead dial it back more often and give them several 10-15 minute games.

And, while we're way past past tanking, we still have tons of development to do. If I'm the coach, I'd want to step in this direction (of bigger rotations).

One last point in favor of large rotations, guys manning slots 7,8,9... need to feel constant heat, and lots of it.
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Tbh I was very happy to see DJG get minutes last night. However, I think there’s a limitation to how many games players on two way contracts can play. Hopefully DJG gets secured on a Champagnie contract soon - that would be sweet. Our guard rotation would be set for years and years.

In the same vein we need to find more players out of the blue like him to continue to be deep for the next decade.
 
OK Computer said:
Tbh I was very happy to see DJG get minutes last night. However, I think there’s a limitation to how many games players on two way contracts can play. Hopefully DJG gets secured on a Champagnie contract soon - that would be sweet. Our guard rotation would be set for years and years.

In the same vein we need to find more players out of the blue like him to continue to be deep for the next decade.
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I'm not in such a rush to secure DJG just yet a la Champagnie, I'm more interested in securing Champagnie himself, but that probably has to wait until next offseason at the earliest.
 
AD looked fat with poor conditioning but he's still AD. Lively has always given Wemby problems. Even guys like PJ Washington have given Vic problems in the past.

But they didn't have a chance last night. Wemby was putting them in the basket all night long.
 
DTW said:
Barnes has an iron man and starting streak that I don't see the Spurs breaking.

Sochan fits well with Wembanyama, but the problem is Wembanyama should be the offensive hub, not reduced to a floor spacer or have less advantageous matchups while playing in a crowd because opposing teams will cross match their center onto Sochan and ignore him.
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He’s an extremely poor fit with Wemby. It’s just that Wemby elevates everyone so when he get a lob once every 3 games people think they have some chemistry.

But Jeremy clogs the paint and we saw last night that open paint means we unlock Vic. He should be sent to Siberia at this point.
 
Fireball said:
i really doubt OKC will let him dribble this easy into the paint as Dallas did ... but one game at a time ... NOLA next
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They definitely won’t. But that’s the part where our elite guards do their work. No lazy passes either.
 
Fireball said:
i really doubt OKC will let him dribble this easy into the paint as Dallas did ... but one game at a time ... NOLA next
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He was rarely dribbling all the way into the paint. His strides are so long that he can,pick the ball up 15, even 20 feet away and finish.
 
We have yet to see what the Fox/Wemby PnR will look like... important to keep in mind.
 
Exstatic said:
He was rarely dribbling all the way into the paint. His strides are so long that he can,pick the ball up 15, even 20 feet away and finish.
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Watched the game last night on ESPN's Above the Rim stream. This was what was so in your face apparent. Not just that the steps are long, but how quickly and fluidly VW ripped through the defense.
 
scott said:
We have yet to see what the Fox/Wemby PnR will look like... important to keep in mind.
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i think their bread and butter will become the pick and pop. who stays out with wemby? and who tries to stick with Fox exploding to the rim?

then again wemby has been much less 3pt happy this preseason and so far in the opener. but maybe thats due to the lack of Fox for such pick and pop opportunities
 
There still a lot to figure out, but I think we can settle on Fox, Harper, and Wemby as firm starters, now. It's plain Harper is ready.
 
Guru of Nothing said:
There still a lot to figure out, but I think we can settle on Fox, Harper, and Wemby as firm starters, now. It's plain Harper is ready.
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IMO, this limits Harper’s effectiveness. He has less time with the ball in his hands this way. I think they should stagger those minutes until Fox leaves. You’re basically taking away the team advantage that the Spurs would otherwise have with 48 minutes of deadly PG play.
 
OK Computer said:
IMO, this limits Harper’s effectiveness. He has less time with the ball in his hands this way. I think they should stagger those minutes until Fox leaves. You’re basically taking away the team advantage that the Spurs would otherwise have with 48 minutes of deadly PG play.
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yeah, and even now with Fox out, not that Castle should be a point guard, he's a better option than, say, McLaughlin. so you still want one of Castle/Harper out there as much as you can anyway
 
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