Game Thread Spurs (22-7) vs Thunder (26-4) (Thu 12/25/25) [1:30 PM CDT]

Spursgenius said:
6 of 7 losses we had double digit leads so we arent great closers
Click to expand...
yeah
Leads come and go quickly nowadays.
You could probably have similar stats for other teams. That said it's happening less frequently and who can forget the 2003 team. While a fondly remembered outcome, there was a lot of nerve wracking moments
 
Millennial_Messiah said:
We all know NBA players are really all about 2 inches shorter than their posted height. They pride themselves on their height and try to maxi it out. Elton Brand was 6'5", not 6'8". Duncan was 6'11, Garnett was 6'10, Allen Iverson was no more than 5'10".
Click to expand...
Manu is taller than 6’6 though and I can see Duncan being 7 feet tall in shoes bc Matt Bonner is a beast of a human being (correctly labeled 6’10 ) and Duncan had a couple inches on him.
 
KobesAchilles said:
Manu is taller than 6’6 though and I can see Duncan being 7 feet tall in shoes bc Matt Bonner is a beast of a human being (correctly labeled 6’10 ) and Duncan had a couple inches on him.
Click to expand...

I could see Bonner being 6'10 but I see Manu as 6'5 without shoes, Duncan 6'11" at best without shoes and Parker no more than 6'2" without shoes, more like 6'1.5" because my friend who was 6'1" was essentially the same height and Parker has a small head.
 
tearsofmorningdew said:
I’ll never forget that bs Vince Carter game winner he traveled on (game 5?)
Click to expand...

Game 3. Freaking Joel Meyers. As a kid (late 90s, early 00s) I'd watch him on the Spurs feed (back when he was alpha and Bill Land was beta) and if the opposing team hit a game winning shot, he'd go silent and eventually say "...unbelievable. unbe-LIEVABLE!" ... whereas that time, in 2014, he was working for TNT, so he was like "Vince Carter at the horn, YES!!!!!" .....shattered my childhood heart, even at the age of 20 and a freshmore in college.

Game 5 was in SA and the Spurs won.

As far as the traveling, that almost never gets call on a shot attempt, especially at the end of a game. Manu Ginobili, Michael Jordan, Kobe Bryant, Steph Curry etc. got away with tons of technical traveling violations on a bunch of their game winning jump shots. When you're a superstar with the ball in your hands, the NBA lets you play.
 
Last edited:
Millennial_Messiah said:
I could see Bonner being 6'10 but I see Manu as 6'5 without shoes, Duncan 6'11" at best without shoes and Parker no more than 6'2" without shoes, more like 6'1.5" because my friend who was 6'1" was essentially the same height and Parker has a small head.
Click to expand...
No feedback on Manu or TD, but, I stood next to Parker once and I'm 6'.5" in shoes and Parker was barely taller than me. Probably 6' 1.5" in shoes. One thing that I saw that blew my mind was TD and Shaq standing next to each other and Shaq was at least an inch taller, a foot wider and a foot or more thicker. Largest human I have ever seen.
 
Ice009 said:
BTW, Jokic another freaking monster game. Maybe Vic was too early to say Jokic isn't the best player in the NBA. I'd still put Jokic ahead of Shai personally with the top three being similar to what Victor said Jokic, Giannis, Shai etc., but still, Jokic is definitely in the running for best player in the NBA.
Click to expand...
I don’t know. Wemby was basically calling Jokic a one way player and Jokic’s defense is downright awful. Like one of the worst defending big men in the league.
 
Millennial_Messiah said:
I could see Bonner being 6'10 but I see Manu as 6'5 without shoes, Duncan 6'11" at best without shoes and Parker no more than 6'2" without shoes, more like 6'1.5" because my friend who was 6'1" was essentially the same height and Parker has a small head.
Click to expand...
Maybe it’s bc he’s so skinny but man when I met Manu he just seemed taller than 6’6. And yeah Parker was like 6’1ish. He was barely taller than me
 
Itzsoweezee said:
I don’t know. Wemby was basically calling Jokic a one way player and Jokic’s defense is downright awful. Like one of the worst defending big men in the league.
Click to expand...
I mean calling Jokic a one way player is technically true but it’s like he’s by far the best offensive big man of all time that it’s an insult to say tbh.
 
Itzsoweezee said:
I don’t know. Wemby was basically calling Jokic a one way player and Jokic’s defense is downright awful. Like one of the worst defending big men in the league.
Click to expand...
That's just not true. There are years over years of data that rate Jokic as an above average defender. Yeah, he doesn't have the athletic ability to be a dominant defensive anchor, but he's one of the smartest players to ever play in the NBA and he's huge. Those two things are more than enough to make up for the fact that he can't jump.
 
DAF86 said:
That's just not true. There are years over years of data that rate Jokic as an above average defender. Yeah, he doesn't have the athletic ability to be a dominant defensive anchor, but he's one of the smartest players to ever play in the NBA and he's huge. Those two things are more than enough to make up for the fact that he can't jump.
Click to expand...
Defensive stats are worthless. Jokic has the highest DBPM in the league! It’s a joke.

Just watch the games. There were a few seasons where he was just not bad. But he’s back to his old ways on defense; he gets killed consistently by teams attacking the paint.
 
Itzsoweezee said:
Defensive stats are worthless. Jokic has the highest DBPM in the league! It’s a joke.

Just watch the games. There were a few seasons where he was just not bad. But he’s back to his old ways on defense; he gets killed consistently by teams attacking the paint.
Click to expand...
I actually watch the games, that's why I say what I'm saying. Yeah, there are instances where a guard will blow past his defender and Jokic will not even attempt to contest the shot because he knows he can't do anything about it. But there are lots of other plays where he's directing traffic and being exaclty where he needs to be to bust an oposing offensive play. Those things are more subtle though, and not as easy to spot. Yeah, defensive metrics are a mess, but they are helpful within the right context. There's a reason Jokic leads in DBPM. Is he the best defender in the World? No. Is he a bad defender? Also no. You won't ever see Trae Young lead the league in DBPM, tbh.
 
Itzsoweezee said:
Defensive stats are worthless. Jokic has the highest DBPM in the league! It’s a joke.

Just watch the games. There were a few seasons where he was just not bad. But he’s back to his old ways on defense; he gets killed consistently by teams attacking the paint.
Click to expand...
I guess assists play a role in DBPM and that’s why Jokers number is so high.
 
DAF86 said:
I actually watch the games, that's why I say what I'm saying. Yeah, there are instances where a guard will blow past his defender and Jokic will not even attempt to contest the shot because he knows he can't do anything about it. But there are lots of other plays where he's directing traffic and being exaclty where he needs to be to bust an oposing offensive play. Those things are more subtle though, and not as easy to spot. Yeah, defensive metrics are a mess, but they are helpful within the right context. There's a reason Jokic leads in DBPM. Is he the best defender in the World? No. Is he a bad defender? Also no. You won't ever see Trae Young lead the league in DBPM, tbh.
Click to expand...
The only DEN games I've watched closely this year were the games where we completely abused Jokic all game long (and put up 139 on them, despite only scoring 18 in the second quarter), and the end of last night (where he was amazing but there wasn't a lot of defense being played by either team really).

I'll have to watch some more DEN, because my impression based on that very limited sample is that he's the guy to attack.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.

Similar threads

Exstatic
Game Thread Spurs (21-7) vs Thunder (26-3) (Tue 12/23/25) [7:30 PM CDT]
40 41 42
Replies
1K
Views
12K
O_V
O_V
ffadicted
Game Thread Spurs (17-7) vs Thunder (24-1) (Sat 12/13/25) [8:00PM CDT]
79 80 81
Replies
2K
Views
22K
thiste
T
Exstatic
Game Thread Spurs (4-0) vs Heat (3-1) (Thu 10/30/25) [7:30PM CDT]
39 40 41
Replies
1K
Views
13K
Paramore
Paramore
BatManu20
Game Thread Spurs (8-2) vs Warriors (6-6) (Wed 11/12/25) [7:00PM CDT]
35 36 37
Replies
916
Views
11K
Strategic
Strategic
LeBowen
Game Thread Spurs (18-7) vs Wizards (4-20) (Thu 12/18/25) [7:00PM CDT]
19 20 21
Replies
520
Views
5K
sKiN20
sKiN20
Back
Top