Player Best Guard rotation in the NBA for the next decade

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[Shmurs]

It’s out of hand, really

 

[OK Computer]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1998236929775525915

 

[Ice009]

I just hope they call all mesh together. They're all great/going to be great players.

 

[timtonymanu]

Their first game together was almost losing to the 3 wins pelicans. Lol.

 

[CrustyCoastBendFan]

Their first game together was almost losing to the 3 wins pelicans. Lol.

 

[timtonymanu]

On a serious note, excited to see them play more games together. Need everyone healthy.

 

[OK Computer]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1998258727921799518

“If it’s my day, they’re going to give me the ball.

If it’s Steph’s day, we’re going to give him the ball.

If it’s Fox day, we’re going to give him the ball.”

A statement you don’t make if you don’t believe you have three point guards.

I will clarify here that there will definitely be times when all three are on the court at the same time and Steph will be the nominal SF because of his size just as Harp will be the nominal SG because of his size. You still have three point guards playing together when this happens, and that’s part of the offensive scheme the coaching staff wants to run.

 

[couchman]

What they do on defense vs offense can be mixed and matched.
If all three are on the court then on defense Castle is the 3, Harper 2, Fox 1.
Castle is the most flexible defender and Fox the most limited.
On offense any of them can be the primary initiator, but Castle’s lack of shooting is the biggest limiting factor. Harper and Fox can space the floor better, perhaps opening the door for Castle to be the primary initiator in some of those lineups.
My prediction is that Harper will eventually be the superstar in a duo with Wemby, and the other guys will have to adapt their roles to support them.

 

[scott]

I'll be honest... I don't understand the obsession over whether or not we call Castle a PG.

They're all guards, capable of being a ball handler with different strengths and weaknesses. And good thing too... I see Fox as strictly a 1, Harper as a 1/2 and Castle as a 1/2/3. All that really means is that it's possible to play them all together without having to compromise your lineup. Lucky us!

 

[Exstatic]

I'll be honest... I don't understand the obsession over whether or not we call Castle a PG.

They're all guards, capable of being a ball handler with different strengths and weaknesses. And good thing too... I see Fox as strictly a 1, Harper as a 1/2 and Castle as a 1/2/3. All that really means is that it's possible to play them all together without having to compromise your lineup. Lucky us!

I think we’re going to be a fucking problem for OKC because of this. Maybe not this year, but soon.

 

[OK Computer]

I'll be honest... I don't understand the obsession over whether or not we call Castle a PG.

They're all guards, capable of being a ball handler with different strengths and weaknesses. And good thing too... I see Fox as strictly a 1, Harper as a 1/2 and Castle as a 1/2/3. All that really means is that it's possible to play them all together without having to compromise your lineup. Lucky us!

The reason this conversation will persist until we no longer have all three is because fans will have their favorites and when you have favorites, it means you want the spotlight on them at all times - they’ll ask why their favorite doesn’t handle the ball more and place blame on the other two that they don’t like as much and make claims such as, “the other one isn’t a point guard, why is he handling the ball while my favorite isn’t?”

Fortunately and unfortunately, this is going to be a debate for years to come whether we like it or not.

 

[spurraider21]

the advantage of having 2 of these guys on the floor at all times is we make the defense pick their poison. they attached their premier defender to one, we go with the other and attack their weakness

but the drawback is that if Fox is out there as a quasi-decoy, we miss the opportunity to have a bigger defender out there, or if Harper is out there as a decoy and Steph is handling the ball, we now have an unreliable shooter out there instead of someone like champagnie

 

[Ice009]

That's the current drawback. Hopefully Steph can shoot better/more consistently, and soon. Can't really do much about the taller defender thing, though. Going to have to decide if you want what these guys bring over having someone that may not be as good, but that is taller/bigger and might help more for defensive purposes. There'll be a bit of a trade off there.

 

[LeBowen]

but the drawback is that if Fox is out there as a quasi-decoy, we miss the opportunity to have a bigger defender out there

The thing is that Fox is probably our third best guard defender.
Who would you rather have out there? Devin still gets lost, Champ and Keldon are too slow to match up with guards, I think Fox is just fine for chasing guards around and generating deflections/steals.

 

[Shmurs]

Ultimately to compete with OKC we would need Fox to trade in some of his personal dignity to go chase down guards in a full court press over and over. I wonder how amenable he is to the amount of effort it will take to beat the best. But that would be the potential Achilles to this whole deal. Fox being too cool for school and dipping in and out of engagement. Kings fans will tell you the same. The counter argument is that being engaged on a bad team isn’t lots of fun and it’s a different thing here.

 

[scott]

The reason this conversation will persist until we no longer have all three is because fans will have their favorites and when you have favorites, it means you want the spotlight on them at all times - they’ll ask why their favorite doesn’t handle the ball more and place blame on the other two that they don’t like as much and make claims such as, “the other one isn’t a point guard, why is he handling the ball while my favorite isn’t?”

Fortunately and unfortunately, this is going to be a debate for years to come whether we like it or not.

But with all due respect... it seems like you're the main one pushing this conversation and narrative? Maybe I'm not paying attention... but it doesn't seem like this is an actual debate (other than an unnecessary "it is clear that Harper > Castle" post that I don't take seriously)

 

[LeBowen]

Ultimately to compete with OKC we would need Fox to trade in some of his personal dignity to go chase down guards in a full court press over and over. I wonder how amenable he is to the amount of effort it will take to beat the best. But that would be the potential Achilles to this whole deal. Fox being too cool for school and dipping in and out of engagement. Kings fans will tell you the same. The counter argument is that being engaged on a bad team isn’t lots of fun and it’s a different thing here.

I just don't understand a lot of you guys.
You simply must create non-existant narratives and issues out of nothing.

Fox clearly took a step back last night and allowed Castle to play himself back into shape in the first half.
He was bad in the 3rd quarter, but so was everyone else.
Then he hit two clutch shots in the 4th and made the game-winning FTs.

He had 10 great games since Wemby went down, has a subpar game and the narratives about Fox start right away (not by you, just to be clear).
But you start questioning his committment for an unknown reason even though he matched up with opposing stars like Booker, Murray, Suggs and even Avdija during this stretch.

As for the Kings, he said it best with a simple "I told you I wasn't the problem".
He's turning 28 in a couple of weeks and he's obviously had enough of putting up empty stats, he wants to play and win serious basketball games.

 

[Shmurs]

I love Fox and am glad I get to watch him so much. I’m worried about him being selective on his level of engagement - under the setting where we’re playing OKC.

You guys are so delicate sometimes. Just read and reply. Or read and move on. The character studies you guys want to do about the people who post here are weird.

 

[LeBowen]

I love Fox and am glad I get to watch him so much. I’m worried about him being selective on his level of engagement - under the setting where we’re playing OKC.

You guys are so delicate sometimes. Just read and reply. Or read and move on. The character studies you guys want to do about the people who post here are weird.

Noone is doing character studies.
I'm just doing what you wrote, reading and replying.
In this case I replied to a character study you wrote, a hypothetical, pessimistic scenario that doesn't really hold because Fox has shown no signs of subpar effort since he joined.

 

[OK Computer]

But with all due respect... it seems like you're the main one pushing this conversation and narrative? Maybe I'm not paying attention... but it doesn't seem like this is an actual debate (other than an unnecessary "it is clear that Harper > Castle" post that I don't take seriously)

In the game thread there were what felt like four pages of username Arg-something trippin out over this topic - I only started chirpin about this after that, lol

 

[scott]

In the game thread there were what felt like four pages of username Arg-something trippin out over this topic - I only started chirpin about this after that, lol

Gotcha.

Personally I'm living in a post 5-position world. In my new reality there are only 3 positions: Guard, Wing, Big. Some guys overlap multiple positions. I don't care who the PG is.

I recall when Fox first came back I made the comment along the lines of "with all due respect to Castle, Fox brings us something we didn't have before" and some took that as a dig at Castle as a PG... but what I was referring to was Fox's takeover scoring ability (which to be fair, Castle is starting to show flashes of this season as well, just not as efficient of course). But when I made that statement, it was not a dig on Castle, but rather a comment of how Fox adds another complementary element.

I just want to see our Big 4 play a nice stretch of games together!

 

[BSfromTX]

Fox is the established star, big contract, and all star. With two other up and coming guards that can play the point, there is understandably a concern that fans think he might get jealous or worried about minutes/touches etc..
Castle, apparently made the statement before being drafted that he wanted to play point in the NBA....so it is understandable that fans would worry he might be upset having to share that role with Fox and Harper.
Harper, I don't think cares. He can play any role and do it well.

Fans are always going to be concerned about background drama and whether it will bother team chemistry.

Personally I don't think it will be an issue. They all seem fine. At least for now

 

[inagra]

Smartphone copy paste test…

 

[The Truth #6]

I'm okay with two out of the three on the floor at all times, assuming everyone's healthy. I guess I'm most curious to see what our best closing lineup will be over time.