Draft Atlanta Hawks Pick-Swap Watch Thread

Will the 2026 Hawks Swap Convey?

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100%Duncan said:
Im half salivating at the thought. The other half of me is seeing how we might get killed at the 3 point line more with how slow that line up is going to be.
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KP isn't that slow but yeah that'd be a weakness. The offensive rating would explode though.
 
Also, say what you want about Trae, but his ECF run is more than a lot of supposed superstars did in this league.
Mitchell never made the conference finals. Neither did Embiid.
Fox has one playoff series under his belt.
Banchero and Wagner are yet to make it out of the first round.
Morant and JJJ won one playoff series together.

Meanwhile Trae fully embraced the villain role and embarrassed both the Knicks and the Sixers.
Don't forget that he didn't play in G4 and G5 of ECF that season, they could've taken another game or two off the Bucks.
He had 48/11 in their only win in that series.

Yeah, he's not a superstar and he just can't be a winning player with his lack of size, but he made the best out of his limitations while playing for a historically incompetent franchise.
 
Like @BatManu20 said above, unfortunately all signs point to Hawks doing something (desperate) to avoid let this ship completely sink. Still hope they lose enough in this coming murderer's row schedule that their best case scenario remain 9th-10th play-in spot and subsequent elimination..
 
spursistan said:
Like @BatManu20 said above, unfortunately all signs point to Hawks doing something (desperate) to avoid let this ship completely sink. Still hope they lose enough in this coming murderer's row schedule that their best case scenario remain 9th-10th play-in spot and subsequent elimination..
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I think what happened last season, the Hawks losing in the play-in and getting the #14 lotto spot, is about the best the Spurs can hope for on that swap.
 
Seventyniner said:
I think what happened last season, the Hawks losing in the play-in and getting the #14 lotto spot, is about the best the Spurs can hope for on that swap.
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As long as it's in the lottery i'll be satisfied. We were 1 ping pong ball away from Cooper Flagg & Dylan Harper last lottery.
 
Correct Crusader said:
I honestly couldn't care less about his age atp. He's like this years Cedric Coward for me. Great height, insane length. Can shoot the ball well and handle it. Plays a great defensive role on an elite NCAA team. We have our stars, lets get our roleplayers. He's big enough to guard big wings, and quick enough to guard guards.
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I been saying that. Having a developed player like him locked into a 4-year rookie contract for about 6 million annually would be a steal.
 
- I had Porzingis marked as an offseason target for the MLE (because of his injury history he should be available for that type of salary). It would make sense for the Mavs to buy him out and get out the apron. That‘s supposedly the reason they want to move AD. Spurs should be up on it if he hits the buyout market.

By the way I think he‘d play C here and have Wemby play PF. That‘s usually what we do with French Vanilla out there.

- Risacher sounds nice, but the Hawks want picks to add to the AD trade. I wouldn‘t even give up one first rounder for him. Too many question marks and we don’t need another project. We need a solid starter.

- since the Hawks need more assets, Brian should call Onsi and ask if they are down to trade Okongwu to get ‘27 back
 
RC_Drunkford said:
- I had Porzingis marked as an offseason target for the MLE (because of his injury history he should be available for that type of salary). It would make sense for the Mavs to buy him out and get out the apron. That‘s supposedly the reason they want to move AD. Spurs should be up on it if he hits the buyout market.

By the way I think he‘d play C here and have Wemby play PF. That‘s usually what we do with French Vanilla out there.

- Risacher sounds nice, but the Hawks want picks to add to the AD trade. I wouldn‘t even give up one first rounder for him. Too many question marks and we don’t need another project. We need a solid starter.

- since the Hawks need more assets, Brian should call Onsi and ask if they are down to trade Okongwu to get ‘27 back
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Damn, he fits so perfectly. Im salivating. With the contract he has now, it’s not like he’ll look for a big pay day after. It’s the perfect get.

I think it will cost Vassell and a 1st or two, which I’ll be sad, but I think it’s worth it.
 
RC_Drunkford said:
By the way I think he‘d play C here and have Wemby play PF. That‘s usually what we do with French Vanilla out there.

- since the Hawks need more assets, Brian should call Onsi and ask if they are down to trade Okongwu to get ‘27 back
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I could be wrong of course, but I think Porzingis and Kornet were an either/or. proposition. Both would make the rotation too centerish and I don't see them changing course given how things are going.

If the Hawks trade for Davis, they're in win now or at least two timelines mode, both of which Okongwu fits. He'd remain important with Davis' durability issues and his improved shooting making them playable together.
 
I know it's just fun to speculate, but at the risk of raining on everyone's parade...I think there's pretty much a 0% chance the Spurs make any sort of noticeably meaningful trade this year. At absolute best we maybe add a vet at the buyout deadline, but I really think even that is a longshot. Things just seem to be going too well, and I think the FO will defer to wanting to wait and see how this group continues to mesh together.

We still haven't even had any games where the team is 100% healthy (I'm considering games where Wemby wasn't starting and/or on minutes restrictions to be "not 100%") and yet we're #2 in the conference.

Not necessarily saying this approach is right or wrong...just that I think the chances of us trading for a legit rotation guy that would supplant an existing player are extremely low.
 
SpursFan86 said:
I know it's just fun to speculate, but at the risk of raining on everyone's parade...I think there's pretty much a 0% chance the Spurs make any sort of noticeably meaningful trade this year. At absolute best we maybe add a vet at the buyout deadline, but I really think even that is a longshot. Things just seem to be going too well, and I think the FO will defer to wanting to wait and see how this group continues to mesh together.

We still haven't even had any games where the team is 100% healthy (I'm considering games where Wemby wasn't starting and/or on minutes restrictions to be "not 100%") and yet we're #2 in the conference.

Not necessarily saying this approach is right or wrong...just that I think the chances of us trading for a legit rotation guy that would supplant an existing player are extremely low.
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2 losses way from the 5th place tho, there are as many arguments for optimism than not.

I agree with you, Spurs won't move and finishing 6th would be a win for the FO considering how Wemby's goal was received as being almost too bold at the start of the season.
 
scott said:
Again, because this is the last chance DAL has to get a high draft pick. Why ruin that by running out KP for some meaningless wins?

That's assuming KP will even play again this season. He has some strange nervous system disorder that is a result of his ankle surgery over a year ago. Even if he gets bought out, he may not be able to pass a physical to sign with anyone else.
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I'll have to lookup what is going on with Porzingis as I thought Exstatic said it was some other issue.

LeBowen said:
Also, say what you want about Trae, but his ECF run is more than a lot of supposed superstars did in this league.
Mitchell never made the conference finals. Neither did Embiid.
Fox has one playoff series under his belt.
Banchero and Wagner are yet to make it out of the first round.
Morant and JJJ won one playoff series together.

Meanwhile Trae fully embraced the villain role and embarrassed both the Knicks and the Sixers.
Don't forget that he didn't play in G4 and G5 of ECF that season, they could've taken another game or two off the Bucks.
He had 48/11 in their only win in that series.

Yeah, he's not a superstar and he just can't be a winning player with his lack of size, but he made the best out of his limitations while playing for a historically incompetent franchise.
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I didn't realize/didn't remember that Trae missed 2 games in the ECF series. What caused him to miss those games? Ankle injury or something? Wow. That was a pretty good run they went on that year.
 
OK Computer said:

Damn, he fits so perfectly. Im salivating. With the contract he has now, it’s not like he’ll look for a big pay day after. It’s the perfect get.

I think it will cost Vassell and a 1st or two, which I’ll be sad, but I think it’s worth it.
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Why wouldn't he look for a big pay day after? He is averaging 16.1 points, 7.6 rebounds, 3.1 assists, 1.1 block and 1 steal on 48.9 shooting, 35% from three. He deserves more than 15-16 millions a year, that's KJ salary. I think that he can ask for Vassel's salary around 27 millions.

I would do Vassel + their swap in a heart beat. Devin is playing well this year and it would suck to see him gone but we need a starting PF and we have plenty of guards. If Atlanta wants to tank, we can do Olynyk (expiring)+scrubs to match the salaries that they can buy out+their 2026 swap, their 2027 and some second round picks
 
frenchfred said:
Why wouldn't he look for a big pay day after? He is averaging 16.1 points, 7.6 rebounds, 3.1 assists, 1.1 block and 1 steal on 48.9 shooting, 35% from three. He deserves more than 15-16 millions a year, that's KJ salary. I think that he can ask for Vassel's salary around 27 millions.

I would do Vassel + their swap in a heart beat. Devin is playing well this year and it would suck to see him gone but we need a starting PF and we have plenty of guards. If Atlanta wants to tank, we can do Olynyk (expiring)+scrubs to match the salaries that they can buy out+their 2026 swap, their 2027 and some second round picks
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For some reason I was thinking he was already 29 or 30…
 
OK Computer said:
For some reason I was thinking he was already 29 or 30…
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The Hawks won't trade him because of his contract but if they are tanking we have two of their picks and this year it could be a good one. The Pacers second round swap is the first of the second round.
 
On a positive note. Another L for the Hawks.

Need a good pick to upgrade that Barnes, Vassell, Champ forward rotation.

CB has plenty of upside, but after the Sochan, Branham, Wesley, Primo debacles, how bout the Spurs don’t pick anymore 19-20 yo raw projects with picks outside the top 5 and go for established production and more refined NBA skills.
 
SpursFan86 said:
I know it's just fun to speculate, but at the risk of raining on everyone's parade...I think there's pretty much a 0% chance the Spurs make any sort of noticeably meaningful trade this year. At absolute best we maybe add a vet at the buyout deadline, but I really think even that is a longshot. Things just seem to be going too well, and I think the FO will defer to wanting to wait and see how this group continues to mesh together.

We still haven't even had any games where the team is 100% healthy (I'm considering games where Wemby wasn't starting and/or on minutes restrictions to be "not 100%") and yet we're #2 in the conference.

Not necessarily saying this approach is right or wrong...just that I think the chances of us trading for a legit rotation guy that would supplant an existing player are extremely low.
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I completely disagree. There's a reason Brian Wright traded for Olynyk and it's not his on court play. It's his 13.5 million dollar expiring contract. That salary paired with Sochan is enough to make a significant move.

I don't think the Spurs will break up our 9 rotation guys, nor should they. But aside from those 9 and Carter Bryant, some of the other 5 players will get moved for somebody. It might just be a bench guy like Dean Wade, but I'm 99% sure we will make a trade to add on to what we have.
 
Surprised to see so much concern about a Young trade when the Hawks are very unlikely to get a positive return for the massively overpaid, league-worst defensive black hole of a PG that is the opposite archetype of what every team's aiming for.

I don't buy the "addition by subtraction" argument a whole lot given the dearth of talent on the ATL roster, and the several key roleplayers, like Risacher, who absolutely need pressure taken off them to shine. The chances of ATL both offloading Trae, while also getting a net-positive solution at PG for their season, are slim IMO (and elderly Day-To-Davis ain't fixing that shit by himself, tbh).

Time to stand on the "Nothing Ever Happens" corner for this one lol
 
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