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Pretty confident Peat won't be the pick but here's The Athletic's latest mock.
I'm just a guy, but give me Haugh, Lopez, Steinbach, or Mullins over Peat. Looking at the layout, if we were to draft 11th, I'd be very interested in trading back, depending on the return - but not past OKC. Mullins to OKC could be bad.Pretty confident Peat won't be the pick but here's The Athletic's latest mock.
Seeing Haugh go to OKC in this made up scenario is exactly why we need to lose tonight.Pretty confident Peat won't be the pick but here's The Athletic's latest mock.
With the caveat that I've only seen one game in which this guy played (and I wasn't even paying attention to him), I'm leaning towards agreement. Based on the scouting reports I've read about him, he seems to fit exactly the archetype this team needs.
I’m going to throw a comp I don’t throw around often.
Haugh has shades of Manu.
Not the special vision and passing.
But the frantic, balls-to-the-wall, win-at-all-costs trait that Manu had, Haugh has.
Manu had bad misses and made bad decisions. Like really bad. But you ignored it because he’d make a back breaking play on the next one. That’s what Haugh does.
Haugh is going 100 miles per hour and giving his all in every play. That’s kind of unheard of in college basketball.
Both are sneaky athletic and acrobatic. Both have winner DNA. Both drafted old. Both fearless.
I’m closing in on Haugh being the pick. He should absolutely be the pick, IMO.
Oh, and he’d get along with Keldon too:
I mean, it's noteworthy that both ESPN and The Athletic have Peat as the pick.Pretty confident Peat won't be the pick but here's The Athletic's latest mock.
Anything's possible, and we'll likely know more after the combine and private workouts/interviews, but it's hard for me to envision MATFO drafting another PF who can't shoot the ball after the Sochan fiasco. I just don't see it tbh. I'd like Peat a lot as a prospect if he were even just an average 3-point shooter on decent volume, cause his rebounding ability and his brand of bully-ball are something we could really use, but he's not. At least not yet. With that said, who knows what the draft landscape will look like after the combine and workouts and all that. Still 3 1/2 months out from draft night so we'll see.I mean, it's noteworthy that both ESPN and The Athletic have Peat as the pick.
FWIW, ESPN mock drafts around February or March tend to be pretty accurate in predicting who the Spurs will pick in June. IIRC, they correctly predicted Vassell, Sochan, and Bryant (didn't verify this claim, but that's what I seem to remember).
then draft another shooting G/F and go sign John Collins with MLE moneyThe reality is that all the PF prospects in the 8-16 range have warts unfortunately.
- Yaxel is older than Paolo Banchero and is shooting 32% from 3.
- Steinbach is moreso a C than a PF and he's a low-volume 3-point shooter.
- Haugh is shooting under 34% from three, is almost 23, and only weighs 215 lbs.
- Ament is a skinny SF at 207 lbs and is shooting 41% and 32% from 3.
- Koa Peat is shooting 33% from 3 on extremely low volume.
- Cenac is at 33% from 3 (and falling) and might be a C, not a PF.
- Karim Lopez is shooting 32% from 3 and doesn't have a single elite trait.
- Jayden Quaintance is coming off an ACL injury and can't shoot the 3 either.
- Joshua Jefferson will be nearly 23 on opening night and prob isn't quick enough to play PF.
I do like Cenac, Ament, Steinbach, Haugh, and Mullins though. Those are prob my 5 favorite semi-realistic prospects right now.
Preaching to the choir. But considering the Spurs have seemingly shown zero interest in John Collins over the years, I doubt that's even an option tbh.then draft another shooting G/F and go sign John Collins with MLE money
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I don’t think that was him as a person or a player. We were tearing the team down, and renting the cap room. He’s STILL on the contract he was on when DeJounte was traded to ATL. That would have been about $25M we couldn’t have rented every season.Preaching to the choir. But considering the Spurs have seemingly shown zero interest in John Collins over the years, I doubt that's even an option tbh.
Also true. Him finally being an UFA could potentially change things (though I'm not holding my breath). I'd be all for it though. I've been on the John Collins train for years tbh. I still think he'd be a great fit on this team as a rebounding stretch-4 beside Wemby (42% from 3 this season, 40% over the last 3 seasons combined). He'd be a seamless fit on this squad imo and another welcomed veteran presence. His rebounding numbers have come down a bit the past couple years, but he's still averaging 7 a game this year which is solid. Make it happen Brian.I don’t think that was him as a person or a player. We were tearing the team down, and renting the cap room. He’s STILL on the contract he was on when DeJounte was traded to ATL. That would have been about $25M we couldn’t have rented every season.
Lopez's big body is approaching elite status (or elite enough); he's proven he can body up against grown men in the NBL. Looks to easily be 6'8" in bare feet, and he's still just 18 and wrapping up his 2nd full pro season. His shot looks decent and I'd draft him with full confidence he can improve to north of 35%.The reality is that all the PF prospects in the 8-16 range have warts unfortunately.
- Yaxel is older than Paolo Banchero and is shooting 32% from 3.
- Steinbach is moreso a C than a PF and he's a low-volume 3-point shooter.
- Haugh is shooting under 34% from three, is almost 23, and only weighs 215 lbs.
- Ament is a skinny SF at 207 lbs and is shooting 41% and 32% from 3.
- Koa Peat is shooting 33% from 3 on extremely low volume.
- Cenac is at 33% from 3 (and falling) and might be a C, not a PF.
- Karim Lopez is shooting 32% from 3 and doesn't have a single elite trait.
- Jayden Quaintance is coming off an ACL injury and can't shoot the 3 either.
- Joshua Jefferson will be nearly 23 on opening night and prob isn't quick enough to play PF.
I do like Cenac, Ament, Steinbach, Haugh, and Mullins though. Those are prob my 5 favorite semi-realistic prospects right now.
Mitch says he won’t match physicality with traditional physicality:Lopez's big body is approaching elite status (or elite enough); he's proven he can body up against grown men in the NBL. Looks to easily be 6'8" in bare feet, and he's still just 18 and wrapping up his 2nd full pro season. His shot looks decent and I'd draft him with full confidence he can improve to north of 35%.
Given our likely drafting slot, our only shot at elite traits is probably Braylon Mullins (and Mullins is my guy right now, all things considered), but I'm kind of looking at this through the lens of roster flexibility. Having CB and Lopez on the floor at the same time, where both should be able to switch pretty easily between 3 and 4, could give us an upper edge in against teams that want to emphasize physicality. If I'm building this roster, surrounding Wemby with a lot of beef would be a priority, and we would get that with a lineup of Harper, Castle, CB, and Lopez - I'll be here for the literal body shots and figurative upper cuts.
might as well go with cameron carrMullins is an elite 3PT shooter already at 19 years old (38.4% on high volume) and boasts an 87% FT% too. He's also a plus defender which doesn't get talked about enough when his name comes up. I personally don't think his shooting will have any issues translating to the NBA level. He's going to be a high-volume movement-shooter in the NBA.
With that said, his 2 biggest red flags are his lack of playing ability (1.8 Ast/TO) and his lack of rim pressure. He reminds me of Devin Vassell coming out of Florida State in some ways, though Devin was better at getting to the cup. Dev also had a slightly higher 3PT% (41%) but on only half the attempts per game that Braylon shoots (6 vs 3 attempts per). Dev was also a sophomore of course. But there's some similarity in their games.
I was more interested in Mullins as an option in case Vassell were to get moved in the next couple years. But with Devin currently playing the best ball of his career, I'm not quite as interested as I once was. I still like him as a prospect, and you can never have enough shooting on the roster, but if this really is Devin starting to enter his prime and not just a hot streak, then I won't be pissed if we do in another direction tbh.
Definitely an argument to be made there. Carr is 2 years older though, a little shorter, and a little skinnier, but he's also a better athlete and gives you the freakish 7'2 wingspan defensively. Just a matter of preference and what you're looking for I guess. Both are solid prospects imo.might as well go with cameron carr
That asst/TO is better than Darren Peterson (1.0). We will have to move off Vassell,probably in the next two years, no matter how well he plays. Might as well be training up his replacement.Mullins is an elite 3PT shooter already at 19 years old (38.4% on high volume) and boasts an 87% FT% too. He's also a plus defender which doesn't get talked about enough when his name comes up. I personally don't think his shooting will have any issues translating to the NBA level. He's going to be a high-volume movement-shooter in the NBA.
With that said, his 2 biggest red flags are his lack of playing ability (1.8 Ast/TO) and his lack of rim pressure. He reminds me of Devin Vassell coming out of Florida State in some ways, though Devin was better at getting to the cup. Dev also had a slightly higher 3PT% (41%) but on only half the attempts per game that Braylon shoots (6 vs 3 attempts per). Dev was also a sophomore of course. But there's some similarity in their games.
I was more interested in Mullins as an option in case Vassell were to get moved in the next couple years. But with Devin currently playing the best ball of his career, I'm not quite as interested as I once was. I still like him as a prospect, and you can never have enough shooting on the roster so I wouldn't be mad at the pick at all, but I also don't think he has to be a top-target anymore either with Devin looking like he's entering his prime.
the hit rate on freakish wingspan guys is pretty highDefinitely an argument to be made there. Carr is 2 years older though, a little shorter, and a little skinnier, but he's also a better athlete and gives you the freakish 7'2 wingspan defensively. Just a matter of preference and what you're looking for I guess. Both are solid prospects imo.