onechance87
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Ugonna onyenso for the second round.This guy can protect the paint.
My vision for Ejiofor was to play PF for the Spurs - he has a cleaner path to get there than Morez, IMO. Yeah, you’ll bring up stats that say some other scenario is possible. Trusting my eyes on this one though.Aday Mara doesn't spread the floor (2/7 from 3 in 93 games), struggles at the FT line (career 57.4%), is likely to struggle defending in space in the NBA, and doesn't project to share the court with Wemby for a significant amount of time. He doesn't look as dominant as Edey did, and Spurs didn't seem interested in his archetype when they passed on him in 2024, I don't see why they'd go for Mara now. As for Ejiofor, undersized centers don't usually translate well to the NBA even when they were productive in college.
Bottom line I don't get the appeal of drafting a third center who won't mesh well with Wemby with a possible lottery pick, when there are options available just about every year through free agency or with lower picks that yield good results (or are looking at least decent early on):
16: Zubac (32)
17: Jarret Allen (22), Hartenstein (43), Kornet (undrafted)
18: RWIII (27), Mitchell Robinson (36)
19: Claxton (31), Gafford (38)
21: Neemias Queta (39), Jay Huff (undrafted)
22: Walker Kessler (22), Jaylin Williams (34)
24: Oso Ighodaro (40), Hukporti (58)
25: Niederhauser (30), Kalkbrenner (34), Raynaud (42)
Signed as free agents: Brook Lopez (Milwaukee 18), Hartenstein (Denver 20, NY 22, OKC 24), Kornet (Spurs 25)
This is all the more relevant when you already have your franchise center in place and a competent backup. For Kornet insurance it'd be much more cost efficient to draft / sign / trade for one for much cheaper. Barring star upside, Spurs should target in the draft archetypes who are otherwise hard to acquire, not those who are readily available.
CB’s key traits:Who do we think is the closest comp in this draft to Carter Bryant?
probably nate ament and koa peat.Maybe even chris cenac jr,Just alot bigger.Who do we think is the closest comp in this draft to Carter Bryant?
Cenacprobably nate ament and koa peat.Maybe even chris cenac jr,Just alot bigger.
I think it depends on what you mean by "closest comp"Who do we think is the closest comp in this draft to Carter Bryant?
It would be nice it it turned out to be A.J. Dybantsa (only kind of kidding).Who do we think is the closest comp in this draft to Carter Bryant?
Sam Vecenie was asked if Koa Peat isn't just like Sochan and he answered Peat is so much better on offense, they are not even in the same stratosphere.For us, probably not good. Sochan and Peat are both great, active disruptors at the college level. Sochan fell off in the pros. Maybe Peat has a different trajectory.
What specifically is it that you’re seeing from Karim that has you thinking he wouldn’t mesh on a personal level here?It’s not that I think he’s an asshole and more that I think he wouldn’t mesh all that well with the core players on this team. Do you remember how Luka Samanic always felt like an outsider even though he was drafted earlier than Keldon? It wasn’t because he sucked, it was mainly because of his personality. Luka wasn’t disruptive per say, but he just couldn’t fit in.
Anyway, this is less of a problem to me with Karim than his actual play. I think his ceiling is something like Trey Lyles.
That’s a terrible argument. Devin Booker didn’t start for UK and averaged 10 points per game.I think it depends on what you mean by "closest comp"
If you mean stylistically, then you are looking for a bigger pure off-ball wing who can guard up and plays with high energy with some semblance of a shot and minimal to no on ball creation. Of this year's crop, that's easily Haugh.
If you mean in terms of the type of player the front office likes to draft, you're looking for a very young player with high level physical characteristics and mediocre to bad counting stats and consistency who has the potential to blow up if he stayed another year ("pre-drafting"). Of this year's prospects, it's almost definitely Cenac.
People sort of forget what the discourse was on Carter Bryant pre-draft and immediately after the draft on Spurstalk because he's been so promising this year. A lot of people really liked him, but there was a sizable contingent of people making the argument that he would be a bust because he wasn't even good enough to start on his college team, he wasn't productive enough, and the very last impression of Carter Bryant in the tournament was of him getting annihilated by Cooper Flagg.
I do agree Koa Peat is ahead in terms of offensive skills, he has better hands, is more explosive, and create his own shot rather than depending entirely on others spoon feeding him or scoring off of hustle. But the similarities are there in terms of shooting:Sam Vecenie was asked if Koa Peat isn't just like Sochan and he answered Peat is so much better on offense, they are not even in the same stratosphere.
(obviously he is a big fan of Peat, has him draftet #10 by the Bucks)
the point is, why would the Spurs learn from Sochan, to never again draft that archetype? Sochan just didn't develop at the pro level at all and finally he developed in the wrong direction. Whatever the reasons were? Talent, coachability, IQ........some player just don't work out at the next level. But if the Spurs take from the Sochan experience to not draft a forward with his profile again, it's like they learned from Josh Primo to never draft a combo guard again.
They will look at the person and that's where Peat will win. A humble and smart kid, winner at every level (good chance this will happen again in the tour), from a family of seven kids, each one of them is or was a Division 1 athlete. NFL father and NFL brother, Koa has learned a few things about what it takes.
But Spurs won't draft him anyway, he will be gone when they pick.
Btw....talking about archetypes........wouldn't they rather see CMB than Sochan?
A disclaimer again that I don’t think it’s his personality as the obstacle as much as it is his basketball fit.What specifically is it that you’re seeing from Karim that has you thinking he wouldn’t mesh on a personal level here?
Vibes are immaculate tbh. Literally biyombo is in because wemby loves the dudeA disclaimer again that I don’t think it’s his personality as the obstacle as much as it is his basketball fit.
He gives off a recluse/reserved vibe, same as Luka did as I mentioned in that post. The locker room environment right now seems full of goofballs (loose and they joke around) who also know when it’s time to be serious:
Karim doesn’t seem to project that same kind of outward personality. And when you think about other international players who came into the organization like Wemby, Manu, Diaw, they all had a certain openness or charm that made it easier to blend into the group dynamic. Karim doesn’t strike me that way from the outside, and that’s part of why I question how naturally he’d mesh with the current group.
I think the Spurs see chemistry as a delicate thing. I’ll use another example: the Thunder are a close knit group. Ousmane Dieng (another foreign player who is a bit too serious) was not a personality fit on that team - it was very clear. Jared McCain, on the other hand, fits like a glove. Their team is better for it when personalities mesh.
i like em still...wont be mad if we choose him.Plays hard,Smart player,Knows his role.So ya'll really out on Yaxel eh? I guess i'll have to play catch-up. I haven't paid as much attention to this draft class as I have the last few years cuz we're already pretty damn good and I'm pumped for the playoffs rather than ping pong balls.
Yaxel had my eye last year tho. Just scrolled through this thread a bit and saw the trash talking vid... it's not *that* bad but it's also not great eh? I think his 3 ball will probably return tho. I dunno, maybe I'll sour on him too when I deep dive. Just seems like he has the size and versatility that we need: basically be big, play smart, and don't suck anything so much that you're exploitable. That'll get you 15 minutes a game imo. Maybe I got him pegged wrong.