Player The unfortunately low-ceilinged Shaolin monastery of Victor Wembanyama

[Fabbs]

I overheard this in the HEB aisle.
A guy with a PHD was talking to another while pulling coffee beans off the shelf. He accidently dropped the bag and it split open.
"Wemby will play part time tonight." is what he said.
A clean up person attending to the spill joined in the conversation and said he also heard that.

 

[BacktoBasics]

I overheard this in the HEB aisle.
A guy with a PHD was talking to another while pulling coffee beans off the shelf. He accidently dropped the bag and it split open.
"Wemby will play part time tonight." is what he said.
A clean up person attending to the spill joined in the conversation and said he also heard that.

The only time you would have restrictions is if you’ve had a run of concussions. Typically because the symptoms last longer with multiple concussions and stacking them up one right after another is dangerous.

Any talk of part time play or limited play is complete BS.

If you have any symptoms at all. The doctor won’t clear you. This is not a situation where you could limit damage by limiting minutes because you aren’t pushing a muscle through physical activity. It’s your brain.

So maybe a sprained ankle could go for 10 minutes and be fine but 30 minutes might be too rigorous and too stressful on an already stressed ligament or muscle. So limited minutes make sense.

That doesn’t apply to concussions.

If he’s fine he’s fine and only another blow to the head would change things.

Playing 20 minutes vs 40 minutes means nothing to a concussion until you take another hit to the head.

I would have serious questions if he played and only played limited minutes. If that’s the case he shouldn’t have been cleared. But that’s not the teams call. He has to pass protocol.

 

[Coyote2!]

I overheard this in the HEB aisle.
A guy with a PHD was talking to another while pulling coffee beans off the shelf. He accidently dropped the bag and it split open.
"Wemby will play part time tonight." is what he said.
A clean up person attending to the spill joined in the conversation and said he also heard that.

Har har har looks like someone spilled the beans

 

[scott]

 

[wemvp]

I'm calling it now. Spurs start the game with no Wemby anywhere in sight. Then with 6 min left in the 1st quarter he runs out like Willis Reed but holding his head. Then he goes out and puts up a 40 piece and kick the Blazers ass

 

[Dbreiden83080]

All of this shit was far less stressful when the team was

 

[Dex]

Boom, this is the answer. @O_V, you have drpill on ignore and he started that thread... you don't see threads started by people you have on ignore.

No, it's gotta be radioactive nano-robots.

 

[Itzsoweezee]

pretty sure all it means is that he has not had a "concussion protocol" setback and if that continues, he plays. I don't think there's much discretion for the Spurs staff or Wemby himself, it's just down to what the results are of the "protocol".

Even if he passes the protocol, Spurs staff can still keep him out

 

[Seventyniner]

Boom, this is the answer. @O_V, you have drpill on ignore and he started that thread... you don't see threads started by people you have on ignore.

That seems less than ideal. It effectively ignores more posters than just those on one's ignore list, at least in those threads. Is there a way to change this so that the threads themselves are visible but the posts by ignored posters are still hidden like in other threads?

 

[BacktoBasics]

Even if he passes the protocol, Spurs staff can still keep him out

I see no motivation to do that. Once he’s cleared it’s considered healed. It’s not a hamstring or calf that you would want to build strength up in after a lack of activity.

 

[RC_Drunkford]

All of this shit was far less stressful when the team was

thank God those days are over

 

[Area 51.247]

Yeah this is not a twisted ankle or jammed finger. There’s no such thing as playing through the pain with a concussion. If he’s not cleared he can’t go. It has nothing to do with his intestinal fortitude or willingness to play through the pain for his team.

It’s completely out of Vic’s control.

He’s cleared when he’s cleared.

Good thing is typically a significant concussion involves a massive blow to side or back of the head or forehead. He took it on the chin and his brain didn’t likely move around his skull like football player taking a huge hit to the helmet. Like boxing chin shots can daze you but doesn’t always mean there’s a concussion.

Having coached youth football for years I’ve seen well over 100 concussions and it sure seems like a mild concussion that is a 3 to 7 day thing. Most mild concussions present symptoms for 24-48 hours and you’re fine.

In youth sports if you had symptoms at the time of the injury or within 24 hours but not after that… almost all doctors would hold them out for minimum 5 days.

Doctors like to see 3-4 days of no symptoms for minor concussions.

This is an accurate statement. The possibility of a second concussion occurring goes up significantly, if the athlete doesn't clear symptoms. Gemini pulled this from NIH and other sources:

"An athlete who sustains a concussion is significantly more likely to experience a second, often with less force, particularly if they return to sport before fully recovering. Repeat injuries are most dangerous within 7-10 days of the first, carrying risks of prolonged recovery, long-term cognitive issues, and potentially fatal Second Impact Syndrome.
National Institutes of Health (.gov)
National Institutes of Health (.gov)
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Key Aspects of Secondary Concussions

Increased Vulnerability: The brain experiences metabolic changes after a first concussion, making it fragile and highly susceptible to injury shortly after, especially in younger athletes.

The "Double" Effect: An individual with one concussion is 1-2 times more likely to get a second, while those with two or more are 3-9 times more likely to sustain another, says St. Charles Health.

Reduced Threshold: Subsequent concussions often occur with far less impact force than the original injury.

Second Impact Syndrome (SIS): A rare but severe condition [explained in this NIH report] where a second hit occurs before the first heals, causing rapid, fatal brain swelling.
National Institutes of Health (.gov)
National Institutes of Health (.gov)
+5

IMO, the Spurs would be best served by winning tonight without Wemby, them sitting him Sunday, and winning the three game series starting Tuesday with home court advantage.

 

[ace3g]

https://twitter.com/x/status/2047760584494788902

 

[rjv]

This is an accurate statement. The possibility of a second concussion occurring goes up significantly, if the athlete doesn't clear symptoms. Gemini pulled this from NIH and other sources:

"An athlete who sustains a concussion is significantly more likely to experience a second, often with less force, particularly if they return to sport before fully recovering. Repeat injuries are most dangerous within 7-10 days of the first, carrying risks of prolonged recovery, long-term cognitive issues, and potentially fatal Second Impact Syndrome.
National Institutes of Health (.gov)
National Institutes of Health (.gov)
+5

Key Aspects of Secondary Concussions

Increased Vulnerability: The brain experiences metabolic changes after a first concussion, making it fragile and highly susceptible to injury shortly after, especially in younger athletes.

The "Double" Effect: An individual with one concussion is 1-2 times more likely to get a second, while those with two or more are 3-9 times more likely to sustain another, says St. Charles Health.

Reduced Threshold: Subsequent concussions often occur with far less impact force than the original injury.

Second Impact Syndrome (SIS): A rare but severe condition [explained in this NIH report] where a second hit occurs before the first heals, causing rapid, fatal brain swelling.
National Institutes of Health (.gov)
National Institutes of Health (.gov)
+5

IMO, the Spurs would be best served by winning tonight without Wemby, them sitting him Sunday, and winning the three game series starting Tuesday with home court advantage.

We don't know what Wemby's diagnosis was or what symptoms he suffered. All we know is that he took a horrific fall with significant impact to his jaw which is, of course, attached to his skull, and that he demonstrated a couple of concerning symptoms-it looked like he blacked out and he seemed a little wobbly immediately after. We also know that he did not go to the hospital. We've been told that he has not shown any symptoms since the diagnosis. We also know that there is no definitive test for a concussion. Doctors will assume that it was one. I have no idea what further tests were taken either. And I agree that it would seem odd if Wemby played tonight based on everything we''ve been reading on the internet, and hearing from social media 'experts', about concussions. But none of us have access to his medical records. If he plays, one has to believe he's been medically cleared without such concerns.

 

[rjv]

https://twitter.com/x/status/2047760584494788902

i'm pretty sure that's harper in the background answering a reporter's question.

 

[tearsofmorningdew]

are we really not gonna hear squat until gametime

 

[wemvp]

He's playing. He wouldn't be out there if he wasnt cleared of cognitive impairment and other symptoms. It looks like it was a flash knockout that affected him for probably a few hours but eased up back to normal pretty quickly.

 

[wemvp]

are we really not gonna hear squat until gametime

If you're Mitch why announce it?

 

[dn0774]

Isn't the timeline 72 hours after the concussion event is the absolute soonest someone can clear protocol? Technically that is still like 2.5 hours away, right? I am guessing nothing definitive can be announced yet unless he is ruled out entirely from playing tonight, in which case why give your opponent more time to prepare than necessary.

 

[tearsofmorningdew]

Isn't the timeline 72 hours after the concussion event is the absolute soonest someone can clear protocol? Technically that is still like 2.5 hours away, right? I am guessing nothing definitive can be announced yet unless he is ruled out entirely from playing tonight, in which case why give your opponent more time to prepare than necessary.

It’s 48. If it was 72 he wouldn’t even be able to be listed as questionable

 

[tearsofmorningdew]

Chris nowinski and all these social media doctors will absolutely derive some sick pleasure if Victor hurts himself tonight. Victor playing and winning big would be amazing if only for that

 

[Dbreiden83080]

are we really not gonna hear squat until gametime

Maybe like one hour before possibly.

 

[dn0774]

It’s 48. If it was 72 he wouldn’t even be able to be listed as questionable

Ahh my mistake I must've read it as 24 hours until he can do light cardio and 48 hours AFTER that initial 24 hours that he can do the next step.

 

[wemvp]

Isn't the timeline 72 hours after the concussion event is the absolute soonest someone can clear protocol? Technically that is still like 2.5 hours away, right? I am guessing nothing definitive can be announced yet unless he is ruled out entirely from playing tonight, in which case why give your opponent more time to prepare than necessary.

This was from a kens5 article the night of game 2:



Under the NBA's concussion policy, Wemby must wait at least 48 hours after his time of injury before returning to "full participation without restrictions," while also fulfilling several requirements for return.

Those include:

Regular monitoring for the first 24 hours
Steadily increasing energy exertion, starting with stationary bike and moving on to jogging, agility work and non-contact team drills--all under medical staff observation
Neurological examinations performed through each exertion stage, with the requirement that Wembanyama be symptom-free before moving to the next one

The NBA restricts players from returning to full, unrestricted participation until he checks off the following boxes:

No concussion-related symptoms "at rest"
He's been evaluated by a physician with the appropriate injury knowledge
Has undergone and completed the return-to-participation exertion process and been cleared
NBA officials confirm the clearance with a team physician

All told, it's possible Wembanyama can return to play Friday in Portland. But much depends on the severity of his concussion; Charania reported he will undergo further testing Wednesday.

 

[scott]

That seems less than ideal. It effectively ignores more posters than just those on one's ignore list, at least in those threads. Is there a way to change this so that the threads themselves are visible but the posts by ignored posters are still hidden like in other threads?

It seems like this is the way the board is designed, and not really customizable. There might be a hidden customization somewhere, but I'll be up front with you and tell you I'm not going to spend much time looking for it.