Player The unfortunately low-ceilinged Shaolin monastery of Victor Wembanyama

Good news. What do they mean symptoms though? Hmm
They are monitoring him on hourly basis with various kinds of tests (even things like memory etc..). I think 24 hours later we could say that he escaped the worst-case outcome. I think there is solid chance he might even play in game 3 probably on minutes restriction.
 
As weird as it sounds I'm not stressed out by the situation. I was very angry at the loss because I was frustrated about how unfair the injury was to Victor. I have made peace with what can happen in this series.

During the Duncan era I would get stressed out about these games because I felt it was the Spurs best chance to win a title and they wouldn't get any opportunities once Duncan retired. Now that they got 5 I guess I don't feel the stress anymore since I got to see them win 5 granted I would love to see number 6 and few more added but if it doesn't happen it's not the end of the world for me.

I lucked into becoming a Spurs fan in 89. They happened to draft my favorite college basketball player when I was a wee-lad (Sean). After he retired I expected to be more ambivalent about the NBA in general, but that shit from childhood sticks forever. Even during the rebuild I was all-in. I kinda enjoyed it, even. It was like moonlighting as a Hornets fan or something.

But that's not the way it works for a lot of people. They become childhood fans of whatever shite team they are located in and are lucky to make it to the mountaintop even once in their lives. Kinda crazy to watch a sport for like 20-30 years and not even sniff a deep playoff run.

That said, this experience has not transformed me into a basketball Buddha like yourself, calm at all times, free from the burdens of desire. My appetite for chips is as strong as ever. Fill me up.
 
Good news. What do they mean symptoms though? Hmm
Even in HS these days, they have tests where they establish a baseline for everyone so that when there is a suspected concussion they run the same tests and compare it against an individual’s baseline (since every person will “score” differently on these tests in a normal state). My freshman daughter had to do this before should could participate in a single practice, and she is in a very much non-contact sport (outrigger paddling).

Surely these pro athletes have even more detailed and elaborate tests, but it all comes down to how you perform versus the baseline. So, the tests Wemby did today means he showed improvement or at least no worsening compared to how he performed on the tests yesterday.
 
I lucked into becoming a Spurs fan in 89. They happened to draft my favorite college basketball player when I was a wee-lad (Sean). After he retired I expected to be more ambivalent about the NBA in general, but that shit from childhood sticks forever. Even during the rebuild I was all-in. I kinda enjoyed it, even. It was like moonlighting as a Hornets fan or something.

But that's not the way it works for a lot of people. They become childhood fans of whatever shite team they are located in and are lucky to make it to the mountaintop even once in their lives. Kinda crazy to watch a sport for like 20-30 years and not even sniff a deep playoff run.

That said, this experience has not transformed me into a basketball Buddha like yourself, calm at all times, free from the burdens of desire. My appetite for chips is as strong as ever. Fill me up.

That's a pretty cool story. I became a Spurs fan in the spring of 1994 at the age of 10 and half since I would turn 11 during the summer time. That season was the first year MJ retired and I had liked the Bulls but with MJ being gone I didn't have a team anymore. One day I saw the Spurs play the Magic on TV on a game on NBC. Even as a kid for some reason I always hated Shaq because I thought at the time he was overhyped but didn't deliver whenever I saw him play. I saw David and was amazed because he looked like a superhero out of a comic book and then to see him school Shaq was incredible. I also liked Rodman because of the colored hair. Those two guys got me hooked and I decided from that point forward I would become a Spur fan.

Another interesting story is that I grew up in NC so I got to watch Duncan from day 1 at Wake Forest and he became my favorite college player. What he was doing in the ACC was legendary in the sense he was beating powerhouse schools like UNC and Duke consistently which to me was really foreshadowing of his future career when he would take out NBA powerhouse teams like the Lakers. I remember summer of '96 looking at this local newspaper article and seeing Duncan on the front cover and then telling my younger brother I wonder where he will end up in next year's draft. My younger brother responded jumping up and down in a cheerful manner and said he's going to end up with the Spurs and him and Robinson are going to be unstoppable and win a lot of championships together. I smiled and said I wish that would happen but it won't happen. A year later when the Spurs won the lottery I remember looking at my younger brother and saying you called it. The funny thing is my younger brother was and still is a Knicks fan and has always told me he regrets making that Duncan prediction because the Knicks ended up suffering in '99 lol. He wishes all the time that he could have stopped his younger self from speaking it into existence.

As when it came to championships I enjoyed '99 but I felt it was quickly soiled by Phil Jackson and Shaq being bitch asses by saying it was an asterisk title along with the media parroting what they were saying. After that i felt the Spurs had to win '03 to prove that '99 title wasn't an asterisk and shove it in Phil and Shaq's face. I truly hated those Lakers team and wanted blood. Then after '03 the Spurs still got discredited and people said they would never win a title without Dave which I thought was bs. I felt after that they had to win just to prove these idiots wrong and they won in '05 and it felt good to see the media pissed off the Spurs were back on top again. Then I had the urge again in '14 that the Spurs had to win for a few reasons which was they couldn't let that Ray Allen shot be the defining moment of how the big 3 era ended and it was also about Duncan's legacy in the sense these media clowns and Laker fans kept diminishing his legacy by saying Kobe was better simply because he had 5 to Duncan's 4. I really wanted to shut these clowns up badly. I enjoyed all 5 of the title runs to the fullest and never took them for granted. I felt that a lot of the stress that came from watching those games outside of feeling a sense of urgency of them having to win because they would never have a player like Duncan again really came from wanting to shut the haters up and make them eat crow. Now as a grown man I don't pay these haters any mind anymore. There is nothing to prove to them anymore.
 
Even in HS these days, they have tests where they establish a baseline for everyone so that when there is a suspected concussion they run the same tests and compare it against an individual’s baseline (since every person will “score” differently on these tests in a normal state). My freshman daughter had to do this before should could participate in a single practice, and she is in a very much non-contact sport (outrigger paddling).

Surely these pro athletes have even more detailed and elaborate tests, but it all comes down to how you perform versus the baseline. So, the tests Wemby did today means he showed improvement or at least no worsening compared to how he performed on the tests yesterday.
I see. That sounds better and reasonable. I just have a bad connotation with the word symptoms.
 
This is a summary of NBA concussion protocol:
https://official.nba.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/4/2025/10/2025-26-NBA-Concussion-Summary.pdf

When a player is diagnosed with a concussion :
- The first phase is a 24 hours monitoring. After that period, the player is evaluated by a team physician. If he is cleared he might got to the second phase.
- The second phase is a return-to-participation exertion process. There are several steps in this process (stationary bike, jogging, agility work, non-contact drills..). A player move to the next step only if he is symptom free after having completed the previous step.
- After having completed the exertion process, the player is fully cleared by the team and this clearance must then be confirmed by the director of the NBA concussion program. The earliest a player can be cleared is 48 hours after the concussion.

Wembanyama is already doing cardio work which means he has already started the exertion process. Spurs' plane leave for Portland today at 1pm. If Wembanyama is on the plane, I guess it will mean he has had no setbacks in the return-to-participation exertion process.
 
From what I recall of a CTE study from a few years ago, the CTE buildup is the result of many minor concussions rather than one big one. I wouldn't be concerned for Victor on that front. Concussions in basketball are fairly rare.

If he gets another one in the near future it would be far more concerning.
Thanks. This actually sounds like a fairly logical. If that study is correct (very complex thing to study, so I won't take it as fact), seems pretty reasonable conclusion.

In the short time I've been watching MMA, it seems the guys like Nick Diaz who seems pretty messed up when he talks and a few of the other guys, with their fighting style, they take a lot of hits. So maybe it's not the single knockouts that do it (obviously you don't want them either), but the repeated blows.

Sounds like Victor will be alright.
 
That type of injury management is also why bird fell off a cliff after 9 years and was done after 13, feating that he would be permanently disabled if he kept playing.

He required spinal fusion surgery from his injuries and has chronic pain even up until now.
Yeah, I only read/heard about Bird (never saw him play apart from a highlight video), but from what I understand, he had a ton of injuries that he either came back early from or played through and that is what shortened his career quite early.

No series nor championship is worth risking a life/Wemby over.


On the other hand, I hope the medical team does not overexagerate.

Hopefully we can get a healthy middle tbh.
If he's feeling fine and passes the tests, I am sure he will be OK long term. I am worried that the medical staff will hold him out too long. If he's OK by game 4, he should be allowed play.
And from what I've read, if he feels OK and passes all the tests, I'd even consider letting him play game 3, but that only if he's feeling great and is pushing for it himself (which I doubt he will push for game 3, so game 4 would be my target).
Personally, I'm more inline with Larry Bird, if it was me, I'd try playing game 3. I'd modify my game and focus on defense and mostly take jump shots on offense, but I'd be pushing to play.

They definitely should be able to get one game out in Portland. But it’s a scary situation. Momentum in these playoff series is a hell of a thing. When you lose it, it can be a hell of a thing getting it back. I really want them to get Friday’s game because Sunday is going to be a lot of pressure on them to avoid getting jammed into a huge hole.
People have mentioned the old Spurs teams that have come back in series which is great, but when Victor went out in game 2, my mind went more to the 2011 series against Memphis. That is what I don't want happening. Manu missed 1 game and Memphis got all the momentum and confidence from that one game and it even pushed them to have a good series the next series. I still believed the Spurs would win the series, and was shocked in the end losing that series. It was embarrassing and I hated it. I knew/believed we were the better team and it still pisses me off thinking about it.

Whether he plays or not, Friday feels like a must win. Goddamn the playoffs are so stressful.
I hate being a fan. It'd be much easier if I was a player on the team. I'd feel a lot less stressed. I actually like playing in tight games/when the games on the line rather than blowouts (it feels awesome), but I don't like watching them. It was TD that made me think about it in that way. It was when TD was an assistant coach and he said it wasn't for him, that it wasn't the same and he didn't like it that much. He had to sit there and watch and couldn't do anything about the outcome of the game and there was nowhere near the same amount of adrenaline being on the sidelines watching than there is playing.

lol. Bismack actually looks good in the hat. He and a couple of those other guys looking like outlaws that stole some money (if you get what I'm saying ;)).
 
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