Player The unfortunately low-ceilinged Shaolin monastery of Victor Wembanyama

Ice009 said:
This is exactly what I was thinking. What I said about Victor must rub people the wrong way may be one reason for it. They've done some stupid flops over the years and I've never seen them get a tech (maybe they did, but I doubt it).


Wow. That are insane numbers in the minutes. He's maximizing his minutes like no other (I wonder if there's ever been a superstar put up those numbers in those kind of minutes?). Mitch is darn lucky Victor is so good, otherwise, this minutes restriction could have cost the Spurs games (well it did cost them at least one game, so I should say, it could have cost them more games). If Victor wasn't this insanely efficient, this minutes strategy might not have looked to good for Mitch at all.
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Mitch is lucky our superstar is putting up with it.
 
Maximizing Wemby’s efficiency in 26 minutes allows more opportunities for Fox, Castle and others to score, spreading the wealth while keeping Wemby fresh. Is that by design??
 
John B said:
Maximizing Wemby’s efficiency in 26 minutes allows more opportunities for Fox, Castle and others to score, spreading the wealth while keeping Wemby fresh. Is that by design??
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I doubt it's by design. It might end up pissing Victor off at some point. I doubt they've that laid it out as a strategy and asked him if he's on board with it.

Edit : I'd say it's working because of Victor's brilliance and super efficiency he's shown so far in these minute restrictions more than anything else.
 
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Most 30-point games in Spurs history after last night's game. Keep stacking days, Wemby.

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I was randomly thinking, does anyone think Spurs/Vic are missing out on an obvious partnership with Alienware? One of the minority owners is the Dell guy, right? Alienware is a Dell company. Feels like an obvious missed opportunity for a collab
 
John B said:
Maximizing Wemby’s efficiency in 26 minutes allows more opportunities for Fox, Castle and others to score, spreading the wealth while keeping Wemby fresh. Is that by design??
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Victor is on his way to 30 mpg tbh... last night he had 26 min before garbage time and had 31 min the game before. We will see but it seems Spurs are ramping up the mn
 
Limguoguolo said:
The art of flopping is not about making people believe you've been fouled, but about wrapping it up in authoritative body language.

When Victor flops or is the victim of a real foul, he puts on the perfect victim's face: he's a seven-year-old whose parents have confiscated his favorite toy to give it to Donald Trump.

We are a species that prefers to give credit to individuals who already have all the traits of dominant males (like me). The more Victor cries, the less the referees will blow their whistles.

In FIBA, this is why, for example, Doncic does not always get favorable calls. He is a player who is like a child, and despite his feints, because he cries too much with a victim face, we tend not to want to give him the benefit of the doubt.

You have to cry with a dominant face.

Victor needs to learn to accentuate contact, of course, but he should never complain about fouls in a child way. He seemed to understand this at the beginning of his career, in Zen master mode, but since defenses have become more aggressive, even vicious, he cries too much. And the more he feels like a victim, the more he will complain about fouls with a little boy's air, the less the referees will give him the benefit of the doubt. (Giannis has the same problem. Yet he provokes a lot.)

You just have to accept that referees can't see everything and call everything.

Flopping, The art of the dominant? (meta-analysis) , Lim, Guo, Guolo and al., 2023 (The Lancet.)
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Agree with the premise of your post but what’s the excuse for shai? always has a shitty look on his face when he’s flopping around.
 
Limguoguolo said:
I have rarely seen Shai complain (too much). Even less so as a child.

I don't know if he is a vocal leader, but on the court, he is a boss in body language. Few emotions, excellent authority, no excesses. He is nothing like a child or a crybaby.

I'm not even sure he needs to flop. All he has to do is get whistles with his feints and elegance (yes, it works: when brutes get rough, we think they deserve it or that they're used to it, made for it; Shai is the prince of groove, and you don't touch princes).
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Very poetic.
 
He’s just not good at the craft. His flops are baaaad. This is definitely an acquired talent though. He should be able to figure it out. But right now he makes a lot of unforced errors with winning over the officials. And he’ll often be punished for trying to play through obvious contact. So he’s just not sure how to balance it all yet.
 
Has Wemby's offense developed much at all since his rookie season? This is the first season I've really watched games in years tbh. Looks like he's trying to figure it out but I can't seem to pinpoint his offensive style or what it should be. I just really dislike when he's forcing things instead of letting the game come to him.
 
NotRobDiaz21 said:
Has Wemby's offense developed much at all since his rookie season? This is the first season I've really watched games in years tbh. Looks like he's trying to figure it out but I can't seem to pinpoint his offensive style or what it should be. I just really dislike when he's forcing things instead of letting the game come to him.
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Yes. Obviously Yes. He just had a bad game. It happens.
 
His shot selection definitely seems to have regressed big time compared to the first 10 or so games of the season. The big reason it was looking like he was going to take over the league early on was because of how dominant he was inside and taking fewer low % shots.

I do think this whole minutes restriction thing is likely not helping. That may be less of an excuse for tonight, but in general since he’s come back it seems like he’s trying to jam in 35 minutes of production into 25 minutes of actual playing time.

He’s been fantastic this year, but it’s a little concerning that his offense still seems so disoriented/directionless at times. Not even talking about the 3s, it’s more the wildly out of control drives and super contested mid-range stuff that has me shaking my head.
 
SpursFan86 said:
His shot selection definitely seems to have regressed big time compared to the first 10 or so games of the season. The big reason it was looking like he was going to take over the league early on was because of how dominant he was inside and taking fewer low % shots.

I do think this whole minutes restriction thing is likely not helping. That may be less of an excuse for tonight, but in general since he’s come back it seems like he’s trying to jam in 35 minutes of production into 25 minutes of actual playing time.

He’s been fantastic this year, but it’s a little concerning that his offense still seems so disoriented/directionless at times. Not even talking about the 3s, it’s more the wildly out of control drives and super contested mid-range stuff that has me shaking my head.
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The minutes restriction sure but I think the bigger thing is getting taken out right as he gets hot. Mitch has zero clue how to manage hot hands
 
Sengun’s whiny bitch ass remains his daddy

He gets another chance next week
 
Even in a difficult game like the one against the Rockets, I just love people's visceral reactions to the crazy stuff Wemby does: When he had this wild baseline driving dunk at the start of the 2nd quarter, the camera panned to Champagnie covering his mouth in shocked disbelief.
 
Kevin Durant nailed it. How does Victor not understand he's way more lethal going inside. I guess because of his size, he can't do it consistently. I don't see why he can't pump-fake and try and get to the rim on some of those fadeaways he ends up taking.
 
Ice009 said:
Kevin Durant nailed it. How does Victor not understand he's way more lethal going inside. I guess because of his size, he can't do it consistently. I don't see why he can't pump-fake and try and get to the rim on some of those fadeaways he ends up taking.
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well, if he never takes the jump shot, i guess the pump-fake will not work very often......
 
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