Player The Uncertainty Realm of the Improved Jumpshot of Jeremy Sochan

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

the cope in this thread is quite heavy. There is no reason to overcomplicate things, Mitch can't coach so he will play the guys that perform in the safest manner. Mitch fully understands that his job depends on being a safe losing option instead of a high risk visionary attempting to build the best defensive team of all time. He has enough offensive talent at his disposal that he can coast his way to the WCF as long as wemby is healthy when the time comes. Just like for mamu, malaki and wesley the franchise has enough draft assets to address flaws, and doesn't need to work in players with questionable contract perspectives. Sochan's supposed lack of improvement as an excuse is quite ridicolous.

What drivel is this? Sochan sucks. He can't dribble. He doesn't know what to do with the ball when it's passed to him.

I was at the Pelicans game Monday and in warmups the guy went 1/20 on corner threes.

Absolute zero at the offensive end and his D isn't elite enough to make up for that.

 

[scott]

This can't be a real take. Even if Jeremy provides descent D, he's such a negative in other aspects that anybody else on the floor will provide more net value. Besides maybe chasing Luka around (who'll prob score at will anyway), what does jeremy offer over Harper, Castle, Keldon, Vassell, Champs, Barnes? Even Olynyk being the defensive lamp post he is provides necessary floor spacing for our slash first guards. Bryant can do the same chasing, is more athletic, and there's still hope in my heart when he lets a 3 fly that it may go in.

There's just no home for Jeremy here anymore, him + picks is a natural trade for another piece, though wonder if he even has any legitimate stock anymore given his performances this year.

These Sochan Stans are not bound by the ordinary limits of logic and reason.

 

[Raven_]

What drivel is this? Sochan sucks. He can't dribble. He doesn't know what to do with the ball when it's passed to him.

I was at the Pelicans game Monday and in warmups the guy went 1/20 on corner threes.

Absolute zero at the offensive end and his D isn't elite enough to make up for that.

the game where barnes and kornet had dairy quinn go off for a 30+ triple double? The game bitch almost singlehandedly lost? .... right... vassell has scored sub double figures in two straight, and kornet barely scrapped his way to double figures yesterday.. on free throws coming from screens, mind you. And i like both, btw

 

[TimmyBuckets]

Yea Mitch is a terrible coach and that's why Spurs are 5th in the west and 9-3 without Wemby, and the team is far exceeding expectations. Fire Mitch and let's get Doc Rivers in here so we can actually compete. Also, Sochan is gone easily.

 

[RC_Drunkford]

I‘ll repeat myself: Sochan is only good at things that do not involve a basketball

 

[NASpurs]

I‘ll repeat myself: Sochan is only good at things that do not involve a basketball

Like cosplaying as Dennis Rodman

 

[OK Computer]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1999212394417946813

This guy needs to let go his love for Sochan as much as Body needs to let go of his hate for Fox. It’s both extremely unhealthy.

 

[scott]

When you take the position that Sochan is a deal breaker to try and get Lauri... you've gotta ride it all the way to the end, tbh

 

[Neuromancer]

its funny that it's a highlight video but 1/3rd of it isn't even actual basketball

Sochan's trajectory is so weird, it needs to be studied more. He went from playing with no fear and plenty of moxy to this sniveling wuss that is constantly unsure of what he wants to do and what is happening around him. Feels like there's something mentally going on with him because he straight up looks like he forgot how to play basketball sometimes

 

[The Truth #6]

He's a vibes player. And needs minutes to instigate and get inspired, it seems. The fact that the Polish team couldn't use him this Summer is sadly telling. I believe Gortat mentioned the details in an interview.

His rookie season I thought he was the lone bright spot.

I accept he's playing like crap. But that doesn't mean drafting him was idiotic. We desperately needed a power forward. Or that he never showed promise. He just never improved and somehow regressed horribly.

 

[Shmurs]

Ultimately he helped us be bad enough to land Castle. And Pop’s hubris with *the experiment* was also in service to getting Castle. So I’d say we hit a home run with the pick and the player development. Now he can learn Chinese.

 

[J_Posse301]

I still like the kid, but I think his time in San Antonio has possibly run it's course. Not seeing the floor at all during a pivotal game/moment in this present group's history is telling.

He's become too unsure of himself on the offensive end and like someone else mentioned isn't playing with "moxy" anymore. Sucks cause a versatile, switchable combo forward is the last piece this team/group will need, IMO.

Either Carter Bryant - I still see him as more of a 3 than a small ball 4 - or someone else will need to fill that role (long-term).

 

[scott]

He's a vibes player. And needs minutes to instigate and get inspired, it seems. The fact that the Polish team couldn't use him this Summer is sadly telling. I believe Gortat mentioned the details in an interview.

His rookie season I thought he was the lone bright spot.

I accept he's playing like crap. But that doesn't mean drafting him was idiotic. We desperately needed a power forward. Or that he never showed promise. He just never improved and somehow regressed horribly.

Yep... sometimes picks don't work out... and honestly, "not working out" isn't that out-of-the-ordinary for late lotto picks. It happens.

Sucks to go 0-3 in the 2022 draft... but it happens. We're in good shape now, and we move on. Even Sam Presti drafts Ousmane Dieng, as @Exstatic likes to remind us.

 

[Exstatic]

the game where barnes and kornet had dairy quinn go off for a 30+ triple double? The game bitch almost singlehandedly lost? .... right... vassell has scored sub double figures in two straight, and kornet barely scrapped his way to double figures yesterday.. on free throws coming from screens, mind you. And i like both, btw

Scoring isn’t Kornet’s role.

Tell me you don’t understand the Spurs without saying the words.

 

[Guru of Nothing]

Or what if there is not much of a market for Jeremy? Would you bring him back for a couple of years, say 2 for 15/20? I still think there's something there to discover, even in a greatly reduced bench role, and by all appearances he fits well in the locker room. Also, I'm a big believer in players having to compete internally, and despite Sochan's 2025 struggles, Jeremy and CB pushing each other could pay dividends.

Eh, now that think about it, it's probably best personally for Jeremy if he hitches on with another team. With his Polish ethnicity and his personality, I can see Jeremy thriving in Chicago. Also, the Bulls seem to have a type and Jeremy fits that mold, Buzelis and Essengue being their most recent draft picks.

 

[The Truth #6]

Yep... sometimes picks don't work out... and honestly, "not working out" isn't that out-of-the-ordinary for late lotto picks. It happens.

Sucks to go 0-3 in the 2022 draft... but it happens. We're in good shape now, and we move on. Even Sam Presti drafts Ousmane Dieng, as @Exstatic likes to remind us.

After the Spurs truly hit rock bottom a few years ago and started drafting in the higher part of the lottery, it was like a new territory for me as a fan since the Spurs were never really in that position ever. I learned to realize that these players drafted from about 4 to 12 really are just freshman with potential but aren't good enough to be a home run pick. Players that have good BBIQ but are older go later in the draft.

Those are safer picks as role players, and if on a dominant team like we were for seemingly ever, it's easier to look good, drafting and developing these low ceiling safe bets.

Caveat - of course they struck gold at times and had good drafts.

But before drafting Victor, we were in the most challenging draft positions, of feeling compelled to swing for the fence.

Hey, we swung.

We missed.

 

[Exstatic]

Yep... sometimes picks don't work out... and honestly, "not working out" isn't that out-of-the-ordinary for late lotto picks. It happens.

Sucks to go 0-3 in the 2022 draft... but it happens. We're in good shape now, and we move on. Even Sam Presti drafts Ousmane Dieng, as @Exstatic likes to remind us.

TBH, it turned out to be kind of a shit draft, and with a few exceptions really dropped,off a cliff after #4. A lot of players on different teams already,a lot of players without extensions.

 

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Three picks behind Sochan, the Thunder picked Jalen Williams. What a whiff.

 

[Area 51.247]

Or what if there is not much of a market for Jeremy? Would you bring him back for a couple of years, say 2 for 15/20? I still think there's something there to discover, even in a greatly reduced bench role, and by all appearances he fits well in the locker room. Also, I'm a big believer in players having to compete internally, and despite Sochan's 2025 struggles, Jeremy and CB pushing each other could pay dividends.

Eh, now that think about it, it's probably best personally for Jeremy if he hitches on with another team. With his Polish ethnicity and his personality, I can see Jeremy thriving in Chicago. Also, the Bulls seem to have a type and Jeremy fits that mold, Buzelis and Essengue being their most recent draft picks.

Milwaukee, Cleveland, Minneapolis, Indianapolis, all the Rust Belt cities have Polska neighborhoods, if that's the trade criteria.

 

[Raven_]

Scoring isn’t Kornet’s role.

Tell me you don’t understand the Spurs without saying the words.

yeah i know, stopping dairy quinn, was.

 

[timtonymanu]

Yep... sometimes picks don't work out... and honestly, "not working out" isn't that out-of-the-ordinary for late lotto picks. It happens.

Sucks to go 0-3 in the 2022 draft... but it happens. We're in good shape now, and we move on. Even Sam Presti drafts Ousmane Dieng, as @Exstatic likes to remind us.

2023 - 2025 draft makes up for the trainwreck of 2021 and 2022 anyway.

 

[Area 51.247]

Milwaukee, Cleveland, Minneapolis, Indianapolis, all the Rust Belt cities have Polska neighborhoods, if that's the trade criteria.

Although, come to think of it, South Texas had the first permanent Polish settlement and church established in the U.S., Panna Maria, in the 1850's.

"
Key Settlements & Areas:

• Panna Maria (Karnes County): The foundational settlement, founded by Father Leopold Moczygemba, establishing the first Polish Catholic church and school in America.
• South/Central Texas Cluster: Expanding from Panna Maria, significant communities arose in Cestohowa, Kosciusko, Falls City, Yorktown, and St. Hedwig.
• East Texas: New Waverly (Walker County) was the first Polish colony in East Texas, with Poles working as tenant farmers.
• Other Towns: Bremond, Anderson, Chappell Hill, and Marlin also saw substantial Polish populations.
• Urban Centers: Polish communities grew in San Antonio and Houston as younger generations moved to cities in the 20th century, with Houston now having a large Polish-descent population."

 

[Shmurs]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1999601387232002080

He should gain 15 pounds. And learn to shoot. But in the meantime should be starting. Because Draymond.

This is very compelling stuff from a gifted mind.

 

[scott]

Honestly, I should be starting.

And then I'll just grow a foot, learn to shoot, dribble and pass, and develop a time machine.

Who's going to argue against this?

 

[Quentin_Compson]

That's why I never listen to podcasts from players/former players.