Player The Uncertainty Realm of the Improved Jumpshot of Jeremy Sochan

[spursparker9]

I don't think there's a single thing he does better than Carter Bryant currently tbh.

There is. The protector role when there is a fight

CB's personality seems too gentle

 

[timtonymanu]

Honestly I want him to have a place in the league. Just not with the Spurs anymore. He’s always gonna be an awkward fit.

 

[The Truth #6]

He was brutal down the stretch. I wonder if Mitch adjusts his minutes after this game.

He came into the league full of youthful swagger and now has no confidence. What a bummer.

 

[VBM]

He was brutal down the stretch. I wonder if Mitch adjusts his minutes after this game.

He came into the league full of youthful swagger and now has no confidence. What a bummer.

Easy to be confident when joining a shitty team with a coach who had checked out.

 

[John B]

If I had any hope of Sochan being a positive part of the Spurs, it’s gone tonight. The guy had zero bball IQ. The play just stops at his hands, as if he’s thinking what to do next and panics like a deer flashed by a light, fumbling that transition layup. Does he even know how to layup with contact or he only knows how to dunk?? Damn

 

[gilmor2002]

If I had any hope of Sochan being a positive part of the Spurs, it’s gone tonight. The guy had zero bball IQ. The play just stops at his hands, as if he’s thinking what to do next and panics like a deer flashed by a light, fumbling that transition layup. Does he even know how to layup with contact or he only knows how to dunk?? Damn

The most obvious one is that the one he carried the ball with Harper in front and he still managed to fuck it up

 

[spursparker9]

He was brutal down the stretch. I wonder if Mitch adjusts his minutes after this game.

He came into the league full of youthful swagger and now has no confidence. What a bummer.

The PG experiment changed him

 

[RC_Drunkford]

this guy can't even run a simple DHO. Pissed me off that he turned it over twice just handing the ball to Champagnie, then he travels on a fastbreak and of course he bricks both freethrows.

 

[plateado]

Este tipo ni siquiera puede ejecutar un simple tiro libre directo. Me cabreó que perdiera el balón dos veces simplemente entregándoselo a Champagnie, luego se lanza en un contraataque y, por supuesto, falla ambos tiros libres

YAnd the three-pointer he missed. He didn't know what to do. He dribbled to the basket and panicked. He passed it to Keldon and the clock ran out. Pathetic.

 

[PanameSpur]

The amazing thing is that you are taking what people say about you, which is being binary, to say it's other people, and it really is a habit of you. It's really mind-boggling.

As of right now, I would say he is an end of bench type of player, but I wouldn't go so far to say he is not playable.


I am not saying I don't understand your point being not athletic enough, I am saying he is less athletic today compared to a few years ago. His movements are less fluid, he cannot change speed as much, he can't move laterally as well. I agree he is not outstandingly athletic, but he is an athlete, enough to allow him to get rebounds and play perimeter defence, which are mostly athleticism and will.



Tre Jones is high IQ? You said he was unable to change once he made up his mind to do something, which to me is low IQ. You have also said he didn't belong to the league. I contended that he is a high end second string PG because he has a steady hand with limitations, even a borderline starter on a bad team.

And unwillingness means unwilling to, as in doesn't want to. If he can't, it is reluctance or inability. These are two very different things. Unwillingness has to do with intent.

As for Vassell, I have questioned the same about him going Kobe mode, so I am on the same page.


Let's be honest, those I hope Im wrong things are a clear out. I didn't have a problem with Sochan having playing time previously as the Spurs really had no one else to play, they were a bad team with no direction, poorly coached.



I absolutely do not recall much criticisms of Wemby until you were called out on it multiple times on it, and even now, Wemby had been quite disappointing in terms of decision making this year, after a great start of the first 5 games or so but I don't really hear much from you. I see Wemby more of a Robinson more than a Duncan, most definitely a generational talent, just doesn't know the game well to make the right decisions and take the easy way out. Robinson eventually found his calling as a running mate to Duncan, but Wemby can hopefully turn it around and learn how to take the reigns by making winning plays. Hope he will try to emulate his game after Jokic and Duncan (not necessarily playing in the post or being a banger, but in terms of seeing the big picture and knowing when to do what) than a Durant, who is more a career loser until he joined a 73-win team and took credit for someone else's work.

I don't have that much time for you Karen, you and I know you're full of shit and in coppium mode, now inventing facts lmao

So let me summaries you the situation once for all...

YOU WERE WRONG ALL THIS TIME.

Cheers.

 

[PanameSpur]

in fairness to him, he has only played in wemby games in 6 of his 13 games, and im not sure how many of those minutes were with/without vic.

and 2 of those games were just curry torching us

DRating is famously the carlos boozer stat

Its true but it's a great decision from Mitch.

Unless he needs to be spoon-fed there's no point of pairing Sochan with Wemby bc he's handicapping him with his lack of passing and inability to score/shoot he helps defense pack around Vic.

 

[PanameSpur]

For those who think Sochan would refuse a qualifying offer, he'll 100% take it without thinking twice!!

It's a massive overpay for what Sochan offers.

Either we manage to package him before or we need to just let him walk.

 

[ambchang]

I don't have that much time for you Karen, you and I know you're full of shit and in coppium mode, now inventing facts lmao

So let me summaries you the situation once for all...

YOU WERE WRONG ALL THIS TIME.

Cheers.

I was most definitely wrong about sochan. No question about it. I’ve said it multiple times since the beginning of the year. Didn’t change the fact that it wasn’t because of what he did last year or the year before, but what he is now. Something you will never get.

Would love to see you admit being wrong at anything though. Including the use of the word Karen.

Sochan was embarrassingly bad vs Orlando, or the vast majority of games this year.

 

[Raven_]

I don't think he has been bad lately, despite some questionable moments and negative +-. I have seen an improvement in his man to man guarding, even if often it would end with a bucket for the opposition. It will regress to the mean. On the brighter side, I have seen some signs of, and don't laugh, actual leadership... I know i know.. But i have seen it with CB and Harper.

 

[spursparker9]

BW sure dodged a bullet by not offering extension in the off season

 

[PanameSpur]

I was most definitely wrong about sochan. No question about it. I’ve said it multiple times since the beginning of the year. Didn’t change the fact that it wasn’t because of what he did last year or the year before, but what he is now. Something you will never get.

Would love to see you admit being wrong at anything though. Including the use of the word Karen.

Sochan was embarrassingly bad vs Orlando, or the vast majority of games this year.

"it wasn’t because of what he did last year or the year before, but what he is now" is 100% coppium... but we're running circle and you'll never admit it.

I have no issue being wrong, it's just basketball ffs. I'm changing slowly my view on Mitch for ex, same on Wemby

You also ignore that I often add "I hope I'm wrong" after hot takes, which I thought was a sign of humility but whatever... as I said previously you comfortably put me in a box and it's too difficult for you to change ur narrative so you're going for the brain contortion strategy lmao

 

[Guru of Nothing]

If I had any hope of Sochan being a positive part of the Spurs, it’s gone tonight. The guy had zero bball IQ. The play just stops at his hands, as if he’s thinking what to do next and panics like a deer flashed by a light, fumbling that transition layup. Does he even know how to layup with contact or he only knows how to dunk?? Damn

I'm wondering why Jeremy does not dunk more. I don't how many times I've seen him get the ball down low and my expectations for a dunk are met with either a turnover or a passive layup & a miss. It doesn't make sense.

 

[RC_Drunkford]

One of my favorite plays from the Memphis game. Sochan in the paint and nobody cares cause he‘s not going to do anything with the ball

 

[BatManu20]

Think the writing is on the wall with Sochan. He just doesn't fit on this team. Only a matter of time before he's moved imo.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1996405498808263052

 

[Guru of Nothing]

I'm afraid his best asset might be his $7M salary needed in a multi-team deal.

Hate that his season has gone this way. I swear there is something going on that we can't see, be it phyiscal or mental. I'll remain hopeful and pessimistic.

 

[scott]

Think the writing is on the wall with Sochan. He just doesn't fit on this team. Only a matter of time before he's moved imo.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1996405498808263052

Harsh but totally spot on

 

[Ice009]

Ouch. It really sucks that he didn't develop so far into who I thought he would be. He was the guy that welcomed Victor to the Spurs during the draft. At that point, I thought he was going to be a long term piece/player for the Spurs.

 

[scott]

Looking through some numbers... Jeremy's 3P% is extraordinarily consistent:

2022-23: .246
2023-24: .308
2024-25: .308
2025-36: .304

It's also bad... but it is very consistent!

 

[LeBowen]

It's also bad... but it is very consistent!

Some would say it's consistently bad.

 

[ambchang]

"it wasn’t because of what he did last year or the year before, but what he is now" is 100% coppium... but we're running circle and you'll never admit it.

I have no issue being wrong, it's just basketball ffs. I'm changing slowly my view on Mitch for ex, same on Wemby

You also ignore that I often add "I hope I'm wrong" after hot takes, which I thought was a sign of humility but whatever... as I said previously you comfortably put me in a box and it's too difficult for you to change ur narrative so you're going for the brain contortion strategy lmao

It's almost exhausting at this point.

Things he did well last year and not this year were defence and rebounding (especially offensive), let's look at the numbers:

Rebounding	OREB/100	REB/100	OREB%	REB%	Contested OREB	Contested REB	Contested REB%
2024-25 (53 games)	4.5	12.5	10.0	13.8	1.6	2.9	44.2
2025-26 (15 games)	3.3	10.3	7.9	12.0	0.8	1.3	37.7

Drops across the board, and rather significantly too. But then it may not be nuanced enough for you.

	2 Pointers	2 Pointers	2-Pointers	3 Pointers	3 Pointers	3 Pointers
	Defended FG%	FG%	Diff	Defended FG%	FG%	Diff
2024-25	52.5%	53.9%	-1.4%	33.3%	36.7%	- 3.4%
2025-26	57.4%	55.6%	+1.8%	48.0%	37.6%	+10.4%

So yeah, whoever he is defending shoots better against him than average for both 2s and 3s this year but worse last year.

In terms of BBIQ, he is surprisingly only turning it over at the same rate as last year at 13.8%, but with a lower assist % (12.0 vs. 13.8 last year) and lower usage rate (16.1 vs, 19.0 last year). He has a much lower FT rate at 21.6% vs. 26.7% last year, lower TS%, lower block % (which wasn't great to begin with). The only advanced stats he got better at are team related ones (DBPM, WS/48). There pretty much isn't a doubt that he is worse than last year in the things he was good at, I didn't have to look up stats to know it but guess what? The stats reflected that as well!

I don't have access to his CraftedNBA stats last year and I am not a member, but I recalled him being middle of the pack for offence and in the 70th percentile or so on defence. Now they are sitting at 44 and 42. So yes, they got worse.

And I already addressed your "I hope I am wrong" takes. It was a clear out in case you are wrong. It's been used countless times before. Nobody who hopes his/her take is wrong would repeat the same take daily for months, repeating the same thing over and over again. At some point, the "I hope I am wrong" bit means nothing.