News The Official Check Here Before Asking About Injury Return Dates Thread

[LeBowen]

I like this idea the best. Like you said, eliminating the b2bs and the crazy stretches like 6 games in 9 days (like we just did between @POR and @CLE).

I absolutely see no valid excuse for the league not to start in mid-September other than those takes about how they don't want to overlap with both NFL and MLB in September which never made sense to me.
NBA players are expected to start with their individual work in July, having two months of individual work and then another month of preseason makes absolutely no sense.
Both the viewership and the arena attendances would be higher with longer seasons because most casual fans get fed up with watching their team play every other night unless they're true contenders.
Not to mention that in these 6 months of regular season we have the all-star break, holidays etc, resulting in even more congested scheduling.

~15th September to ~15th April should be the norm and I don't see any relevant downsides.

Interesting idea about more incentive for Top Teams... I've never thought about that. This might be unnecessarily complicated, but what if your number of Home Games in Rd 1 was tied to your regular season win%? Like if OKC goes out and wins 75 games, then they get 6 Home Games in Rd 1. So to get 6 home games you'd have to get 65 wins... to get 5 home games you'd have to get 53 wins (maybe you bump this up to 58, because 50-55 wins is pretty common). This would only be for the first round.

I'm really not sure.
And I'm not sure if the play-in is a good thing.
It just devalues the regular season even more. You play for 82 games and then it can all be for nothing in just one game with modern basketball being such a random sport at times.

I'd say the best teams should be awarded with some kind of a bye win in the first round.
But the NBA would never allow it because they don't want to lose on that extra viewership revenue.

Let's say something like 1st/2nd seed wouldn't have to play in the 1st round if they have 25 more wins than their 7th/8th seed matchups?
Then again, would top teams even want to get cold and not play for a couple of weeks?

The first half challenges (and maybe all of them) they should just have them reviewed centrally and someone from HQ tells the refs the answer instead of having them stare at a 24" monitor for 5 minutes.

There's absolutely no reason for 48 minutes of game time to be stretched out to ~150 minutes.
FIBA games are just 8 minutes shorter and most games don't come even close to two hours of broadcast time.

 

[scott]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1998136974964830535

Jeff McDonald is actually right here... but I wish someone would reply here (I don't post on X, so I can't):

"hey Jeff, you are right... but maybe if the lead Spurs beat writer for the SAEN would do better at his job (you know, relentlessly ask questions and then report the answers to those questions) then people wouldn't resort to speculation and uninformed opinion"

 

[jeebus]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1998174789077528941

 

[jeebus]

I'll bet he plays. In the remarkable "trade for Giannis" thread, I think someone said he peed out all of the AIDS and blood clots.

 

[scott]

I'll bet he plays. In the remarkable "trade for Giannis" thread, I think someone said he peed out all of the AIDS and blood clots.

Well known fact: the key to beating AIDS is proper hydration.

 

[jeebus]

Well known fact: the key to beating AIDS is proper hydration.

The AIDS is stored in the balls, along with the pee.

 

[DTW]

I'd be shocked if Wembanyama plays vs the Lakers, but if he does, it'll be a clear sign (maybe the first?) of him asserting his dominance off the court because it'd be on brand for the Spurs to sit him even if healthy.

 

[Exstatic]

I'd be more open to that than less games... but I kind of like things they way they are. That's just me though... I like teams having to build a deeper team. By going to less minutes or fewer games, we're really just rewarding shallow roster construction and teams like the Lakers, previous iterations of the Nuggets and even the fuckin' Clippers (no depth, guys who can't play full seasons)

It would be interesting seeing how team construction might change. Your rotation would certainly be shorter, so, maybe you can pay 3-4 guys big contracts, an MLE guy, an LLE guy, and everyone else minimum or near minimum deals. Your 9-15 guys would rarely see the floor.

 

[spursistan]

I'd be shocked if Wembanyama plays vs the Lakers, but if he does, it'll be a clear sign (maybe the first?) of him asserting his dominance off the court because it'd be on brand for the Spurs to sit him even if healthy.

They better not try have him sneakily miss the 65-games cut for awards/All-NBA teams so that he would settle for less money on his upcoming extension..It's going to be a close shave. They need to throw the old book/manual out of the window when dealing with their stars. Wemby cares about accolades and all benchmarks of legacy/greatness, and that's fine.

 

[Seventyniner]

I'd say the best teams should be awarded with some kind of a bye win in the first round.
But the NBA would never allow it because they don't want to lose on that extra viewership revenue.

Let's say something like 1st/2nd seed wouldn't have to play in the 1st round if they have 25 more wins than their 7th/8th seed matchups?
Then again, would top teams even want to get cold and not play for a couple of weeks?

Let the 1 seed pick their opponent in the first round. 2 seed picks from whoever is left, 3 seed picks, then 4 seed plays the remaining team.

Don't guarantee a top 4 seed for a division winner either.

Repeat the process in round 2. Highest remaining seed picks their opponent. How's that for incentive to stack wins in the regular season?

I'm with you on starting the season in September too.

 

[scott]

They better not try have him sneakily miss the 65-games cut for awards/All-NBA teams so that he would settle for less money on his upcoming extension..It's going to be a close shave. They need to throw the old book/manual out of the window when dealing with their stars. Wemby cares about accolades and all benchmarks of legacy/greatness, and that's fine.

I've pointed this out multiple times already, but I will again.

Awards this season don't matter for Wemby's extension. They do next season.

 

[rjv]

looks like Wemby is out for tomorrow.

 

[tearsofmorningdew]

fucking pathetic gutless organization. As expected.

 

[inagra]

 

[tearsofmorningdew]

watching the tard squad try to keep up with Luka is gonna be peak lulz. no Wemby to clean anything up

 

[frenchfred]

interestingly, Harper came back faster while he had his calf in a boot. Grade 1 sprain are 2-4 weeks so Wemby is still within that window but it is getting close (December 12th).

 

[SpursFan86]

Look, I’m not trying to be a cliff jumper…but it’s hard to not be at least somewhat concerned.

Wemby will now miss at least 12 games and a month of the season. That’s nearly 15% of the season. So the possibilities are:

1) Wemby is the type of player who misses 15% of the season with what was described as a minor injury

2) The medical staff is so insanely conservative that we’re going to be holding our key players for 15% of the season for minor injuries

3) The injury is more severe than they initially thought or what we have been told

Again, I’m not trying to act like there’s some crazy consipiracy and Wemby is dying…but just finding it difficult to be super optimistic at this point. So he returns next week or whatever - great. What happens next time he gets a minor strain? Do we just assume he’s going to miss 3-4 weeks any time he pops up on the injury report?

 

[Dex]

Look, I’m not trying to be a cliff jumper…but it’s hard to not be at least somewhat concerned.

Wemby will now miss at least 12 games and a month of the season. That’s nearly 15% of the season. So the possibilities are:

1) Wemby is the type of player who misses 15% of the season with what was described as a minor injury

2) The medical staff is so insanely conservative that we’re going to be holding our key players for 15% of the season for minor injuries

3) The injury is more severe than they initially thought or what we have been told

Again, I’m not trying to act like there’s some crazy consipiracy and Wemby is dying…but just finding it difficult to be super optimistic at this point. So he returns next week or whatever - great. What happens next time he gets a minor strain? Do we just assume he’s going to miss 3-4 weeks any time he pops up on the injury report?

My biggest disappointment is that he will likely be missing out on another DPOY and All-NBA bid...but that's also not a reason to bring him back before he is ready.

If the Spurs are going to make anything meaningful out of this season, they need him in April/May...not November/December.

 

[tearsofmorningdew]

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Look, I’m not trying to be a cliff jumper…but it’s hard to not be at least somewhat concerned.

Wemby will now miss at least 12 games and a month of the season. That’s nearly 15% of the season. So the possibilities are:

1) Wemby is the type of player who misses 15% of the season with what was described as a minor injury

2) The medical staff is so insanely conservative that we’re going to be holding our key players for 15% of the season for minor injuries

3) The injury is more severe than they initially thought or what we have been told

Again, I’m not trying to act like there’s some crazy consipiracy and Wemby is dying…but just finding it difficult to be super optimistic at this point. So he returns next week or whatever - great. What happens next time he gets a minor strain? Do we just assume he’s going to miss 3-4 weeks any time he pops up on the injury report?

I think it’s more #2 than anything. Wemby would’ve been in hiding or in a boot if it was ever as bad as Harper’s. And there has been nothing in his career that has pointed to him being bitch made like Anthony Davis or other injury prone guys.

 

[poopbox]

My wife said what if Victor ends up the opposite of Kawhi and leaves the spurs cause they hold him out longer than he thinks he should be

From Kawhi can't wipe his ass to Victor saying I want to wipe my own ass

 

[SpursFan86]

My biggest disappointment is that he will likely be missing out on another DPOY and All-NBA bid...but that's also not a reason to bring him back before he is ready.

If the Spurs are going to make anything meaningful out of this season, they need him in April/May...not November/December.

Of course him being healthy in April/May is the most important thing. Just worried at this point that if he picks up a minor injury in April he would miss the entire first round of playoffs and we’d get knocked out

 

[spurraider21]

Wemby has now missed more time with his calf that he was able to play through than Harper missed after he couldn’t put weight on his calf and was immediately placed in a boot

 

[spursistan]

Said this few pages ago (I think @Splits did too): no one on the medical staff was going to put his career/reputation on the line and clear Wemby for this game as his first game back post a calf strain. This is just how it's going to be with Wemby: medical team will milk the hell out of his injury time out as long as they can..

The main reason for all of this deliberate approach is the stakes at play: a cornerstone of a franchise on the rise with big plans ahead like building new arena along with the fact Wemby already anointed as the next face of the NBA and the league's future cash cow (even Adam Silver understands this "bubble wrap" treatment of Vic)

 

[spursistan]

Wemby has now missed more time with his calf that he was able to play through than Harper missed after he couldn’t put weight on his calf and was immediately placed in a boot

Still think this more coming from above (medical staff & management) than a Wemby's choice (see my post just above about the high stakes involved in all this)

 

[spurraider21]

Still think this more coming from above (medical staff & management) than a Wemby's choice (see my post just above about the high stakes involved in all this)

i dont disagree. im sure wemby wants to play