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[Splits]

What's Vic got around his wrist there?

Pacifier holder

 

[scott]

Pacifier holder

I was going to guess it was one of those copper bands that middle aged people wear all the time to help with their joint pain.

Maybe it will help cure his AIDS

 

[Splits]

I was going to guess it was one of those copper bands that middle aged people wear all the time to help with their joint pain.

Maybe it will help cure his AIDS

No that would be like if Unc broke a fingernail and was out a month. Instead we get:

 

[rjv]

that's some pretty awful AI ^^^

 

[Arguendo]

I understand the caution but im not sure how the league is going to sustain itself if players now are going to be staying out for a month or 2 for every minor injury like strains and such.

Strains will always be a thing especially in basketball. It seems the league might have a problem brewing here.

There's a simple easy answer that would make most of this go away and make the games much more enteraining and way more impactful...but it'll never happen.
There's absolutely no (basketball reason) for these guys to be scheduled for 82 games plus pre/post.
The schedule should be cut way down, 64 games, 50 games, 40 games.
Play 2x a wk, start after the World Series, get more eyeballs throughout and more interesting games, make every regular season game much more impactful, make missing games a much bigger deal to PO seeding.
It should happen, it will never happen.

 

[scott]

I might be in the minority, but I like the 82 game season.

I think injury management is a key part of the game and building a team that can withstand periods without its top players is important. OKC obviously hasn't missed a beat by any of their guys missing time, the Spurs haven't really either.

 

[LeBowen]

I might be in the minority, but I like the 82 game season.

I think injury management is a key part of the game and building a team that can withstand periods without its top players is important. OKC obviously hasn't missed a beat by any of their guys missing time, the Spurs haven't really either.

People thinking 72, 65 or whatever game season would change much are naive.
Does anyone really believe 65 game season would equal playoff effort in most games? No chance.

I'd say the only real issue are the ticket prices and attending fans missing out on seeing star players.

 

[Ice009]

When did he say this? I don't remember this at all.

It was either on a post game press conference 1-2 games ago, or a pregame one. Can't remember exactly. I just remember him saying it's not his choice and he's glad it's not. I thought that was interesting.

I've also never wanted less than 82 games. It's just going to mean teams that might have made the playoffs could start missing them if they have any injuries where players are out for more than a minimal amount of time/games. Records will all change as you can't match them up with previous years/generations. Fans will miss out, less money will be made. I don't like it at all. My best thought/option is to start the season earlier and space the games out more.

 

[scott]

It was either on a post game press conference 1-2 games ago, or a pregame one. Can't remember exactly. I just remember him saying it's not his choice and he's glad it's not. I thought that was interesting.

I've also never wanted less than 82 games. It's just going to mean teams that might have made the playoffs could start missing them if they have any injuries where players are out for more than a minimal amount of time/games. Records will all change as you can't match them up with previous years/generations. Fans will miss out, less money will be made. I don't like it at all. My best thought/option is to start the season earlier and space the games out more.

I remember him saying the "it's not his choice" about Wemby, but I must have missed it about a Harper minutes restriction.

 

[LeBowen]

I remember him saying the "it's not his choice" about Wemby, but I must have missed it about a Harper minutes restriction.

Mitch always says he has no authority over medical team and doesn't want to have it.
They decide if a player is ready to play and if minutes restriction is needed.

 

[Itzsoweezee]

i'll never understand these posts. why do we treat these players like fragile babies? "team needs its star player back for a big game" is hardly controversial. if he's not in game shape with his conditioning then ration his minutes, thats fine. but that should be the case whether its a game against the lakers or the jazz.

He’s at least 7’6” and plays with ridiculous athleticism. You can’t treat him like any average nba player. We all knew managing his workload was going to be a big aspect of his nba career.

I just wish Mitch would keep wemby’s minutes to around 32 mpg. He’s not built for 37+ minutes per night. I’d rather see reduced minutes than reduced games.

 

[scott]

Mitch always says he has no authority over medical team and doesn't want to have it.
They decide if a player is ready to play and if minutes restriction is needed.

Yes... I know this. The question is over whether Mitch has specifically stated that Harper is on minutes restriction.

 

[scott]

He’s at least 7’6” and plays with ridiculous athleticism. You can’t treat him like any average nba player. We all knew managing his workload was going to be a big aspect of his nba career.

I just wish Mitch would keep wemby’s minutes to around 32 mpg. He’s not built for 37+ minutes per night. I’d rather see reduced minutes than reduced games.

Mitch definitely plays our guys a lot more than Pop had been doing, that's for sure!

 

[LeBowen]

Mitch definitely plays our guys a lot more than Pop had been doing, that's for sure!

I think a lot of it has to do with players we have no replacement for getting injured.
Wemby and Kornet played just 5 games together.
Tonight will be the first game with Fox/Castle/Harper available.

 

[PanameSpur]

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People thinking 72, 65 or whatever game season would change much are naive.
Does anyone really believe 65 game season would equal playoff effort in most games? No chance.

I'd say the only real issue are the ticket prices and attending fans missing out on seeing star players.

The most logical should be 58 games.

Every teams meet each others at home and away.

 

[Exstatic]

I might be in the minority, but I like the 82 game season.

I think injury management is a key part of the game and building a team that can withstand periods without its top players is important. OKC obviously hasn't missed a beat by any of their guys missing time, the Spurs haven't really either.

I think dropping the games from 48 to 40 minutes would really help, and I’ve heard Silver talk about it.

 

[LeBowen]

The most logical should be 58 games.

Every teams meet each others at home and away.

It wouldn't prevent the teams from resting the players because 58 games is still enough for legit teams to not worry about their seeding even if they coast through the regular season.

They need to stretch the season out. NBA players are getting paid ridiculous money and a lot of them don't play any official games for 6 months.
Even the champions have more than 4 months between official games.
Regular season, especially early regular season will never be full intensity. There's no point in playing so many preseason games when everyone is still getting up to speed up until December.
Just start the season in mid-September, eliminate road b2bs and 4 games in 5 days.

As for teams taking it more seriously, the only incentive would be giving top seeds a bigger advantage.
Having them skip a round won't happen, but I can't think of anything else.

I think dropping the games from 48 to 40 minutes would really help, and I’ve heard Silver talk about it.

They could also reduce both the number and the duration of time-outs to make the viewing experience better.
The game must start exactly 2 minutes after the time-out was called.
Challenges in the first half shouldn't be a thing. Noone cares about one possession.
Make it so that the teams can challenge 2 fouls from the first half and have the refs review it during the half in case of foul trouble.
I don't want a bad out of bounds call in the first quarter stopping the game for 5 minutes.

 

[scott]

I think a lot of it has to do with players we have no replacement for getting injured.
Wemby and Kornet played just 5 games together.
Tonight will be the first game with Fox/Castle/Harper available.

Even before that, Mitch would let guys go long to compete for the win.

Just as an example:

First Warriors game: Wemby 36 min, Fox 35 min, Devin 35 min, Castle 31 min (limited by fouls)
Second Warriors game: Wemby 38 min, Fox 33 min, Devin 32 min, Castle 36 min

Harper was the only guy missing from that stretch, but my guess is it only would have eaten into Devin's minutes a little bit and the rest would have come from Lindy, Sochan, Keldon and Champ... we had Devin and Keldon running point at times in those games.

I like how Mitch isn't afraid to let his rotations limit our ability to go for the win. Hopefully it continues... I cannot freakin' wait to finally be at full strength and see what it looks like.

My guess is it might be a little clunky at first. We've basically had two different teams this year: The Wemby/Castle team and the Fox/Devin/Harper team. Both have been really good! But it's going to take some adjusting because the Fox team has definitely been playing a different style than the Wemby team. We honestly have no clue what offense Mitch wants to run because we've only had 4 Fox/Wemby games all season and there was no time for it to really click.

This is exciting AF to me.

 

[scott]

I think dropping the games from 48 to 40 minutes would really help, and I’ve heard Silver talk about it.

I'd be more open to that than less games... but I kind of like things they way they are. That's just me though... I like teams having to build a deeper team. By going to less minutes or fewer games, we're really just rewarding shallow roster construction and teams like the Lakers, previous iterations of the Nuggets and even the fuckin' Clippers (no depth, guys who can't play full seasons)

 

[LeBowen]

We've basically had two different teams this year: The Wemby/Castle team and the Fox/Devin/Harper team. Both have been really good! But it's going to take some adjusting because the Fox team has definitely been playing a different style than the Wemby team. We honestly have no clue what offense Mitch wants to run because we've only had 4 Fox/Wemby games all season and there was no time for it to really click.

As long as either of those teams has opening night Wemby, I won't complain. I just don't want iso Wemby to make an appearance again.

I like how Mitch isn't afraid to let his rotations limit our ability to go for the win.

I think he really doesn't rate some players and isn't afraid to show it.

When everyone's healthy we should see something like Fox/Castle/Harper staggered guard duo, Devin/Barnes/Champ/Keldon for the other two perimeter positions, whoever is hot gets more minutes and then obviously Kornet backing up Wemby. I don't expect to see them play together a lot unless we're struggling against size.

That's a 9 man rotation with no real weak link if they can playing on their current level.
How many benches in the league can compare with Harper/Champ/Keldon/Kornet?

 

[Manu20]

My guess is it might be a little clunky at first. We've basically had two different teams this year: The Wemby/Castle team and the Fox/Devin/Harper team. Both have been really good! But it's going to take some adjusting because the Fox team has definitely been playing a different style than the Wemby team. We honestly have no clue what offense Mitch wants to run because we've only had 4 Fox/Wemby games all season and there was no time for it to really click.

This is exciting AF to me.

So true! 2 very different offensive styles. I honestly think when healthy this team has soo much talent but I'm preparing myself for the growing and learning pains that this Spurs team will go through. It will be fun seeing them grow tho!

 

[scott]

They need to stretch the season out. NBA players are getting paid ridiculous money and a lot of them don't play any official games for 6 months.
Even the champions have more than 4 months between official games.
Regular season, especially early regular season will never be full intensity. There's no point in playing so many preseason games when everyone is still getting up to speed up until December.
Just start the season in mid-September, eliminate road b2bs and 4 games in 5 days.

As for teams taking it more seriously, the only incentive would be giving top seeds a bigger advantage.
Having them skip a round won't happen, but I can't think of anything else.


They could also reduce both the number and the duration of time-outs to make the viewing experience better.
The game must start exactly 2 minutes after the time-out was called.
Challenges in the first half shouldn't be a thing. Noone cares about one possession.
Make it so that the teams can challenge 2 fouls from the first half and have the refs review it during the half in case of foul trouble.
I don't want a bad out of bounds call in the first quarter stopping the game for 5 minutes.

I like this idea the best. Like you said, eliminating the b2bs and the crazy stretches like 6 games in 9 days (like we just did between @POR and @CLE).

Interesting idea about more incentive for Top Teams... I've never thought about that. This might be unnecessarily complicated, but what if your number of Home Games in Rd 1 was tied to your regular season win%? Like if OKC goes out and wins 75 games, then they get 6 Home Games in Rd 1. So to get 6 home games you'd have to get 65 wins... to get 5 home games you'd have to get 53 wins (maybe you bump this up to 58, because 50-55 wins is pretty common). This would only be for the first round.

The first half challenges (and maybe all of them) they should just have them reviewed centrally and someone from HQ tells the refs the answer instead of having them stare at a 24" monitor for 5 minutes.

 

[scott]

As long as either of those teams has opening night Wemby, I won't complain. I just don't want iso Wemby to make an appearance again.

Yeah I think this is the clunkiness that will have to be worked out. It's clear (to us anyway) that the reason the Fox team offense is working better is that it doesn't have Ball-Stopper Wemby. Wemby's an absolute force when deployed correctly... but Ball-Stopper Wemby on a cold shooting night is no bueno. Fox-team Spurs + Opening Night Wemby + Foul Merchant Steph = cheat code.

I'm hoping Mitch sees this too (because it's kind of obvious) and finds a way to unlock it.

 

[RC_Drunkford]

When did he say this? I don't remember this at all.

As far as I know he‘d not on a restriction. Mitch just said that he‘s gassed quickly cause he hasn‘t played in a while.

 

[scott]

As far as I know he‘d not on a restriction. Mitch just said that he‘s gassed quickly cause he hasn‘t played in a while.

That's what I thought too... but Ice claimed Mitch said he was on restriction.