Trade Spurs Trade Ideas

[Exstatic]

Your making an assumption on that. And the further they would fall the better their lottery odds would be to win the # 1 pick. In this particular instance if they would have lost one more I believe they would have had the worse record between them and dallas and had the # 1 overall pick, So they had more incentive to tank then just pushing off their pick an extra year.

It’s not an assumption, it’s what actually happened, an event in the past. There were like 7-8 hardcore tankers for Flagg last year. Chicago had zero chance to move to a better position. I mean they did actually move from 9 to 12 after they got their pick back, but if the alternate trade involving NO instead of Chicago happens, we don’t get that pick last year. They would have stayed where they were. Why would they win more so their pick goes to us? It’s not an assumption. It’s basic logic.

 

[talkspurs]

It’s not an assumption, it’s what actually happened, an event in the past. There were like 7-8 hardcore tankers for Flagg last year. Chicago had zero chance to move to a better position. I mean they did actually move from 9 to 12 after they got their pick back, but if the alternate trade involving NO instead of Chicago happens, we don’t get that pick last year. They would have stayed where they were. Why would they win more so their pick goes to us? It’s not an assumption. It’s basic logic.

100% assumption. You are assuming that their record would be different then it was. Since the scenario did not play out with us keeping the pick you are assuming. Once again they had more reason to tank when they had their pick back. as losing gave them better odds to win the lottery and not pushing their pick they owed us to 2026.

 

[Exstatic]

100% assumption. You are assuming that their record would be different then it was. Since the scenario did not play out with us keeping the pick you are assuming. Once again they had more reason to tank when they had their pick back. as losing gave them better odds to win the lottery and not pushing their pick they owed us to 2026.

Too many hard tankers for them to move up, even owning their pick.

 

[talkspurs]

Once again one more game lost would have had them in the sole place for that extra chance to win the number 1 pick. This ended up being flag so no there were not to many teams tanking to move up. If it was how would it have been any different with the protection in place. To many to move up when they own their own pick would be to much for them to move up with the protection.

 

[Bruno]

Salaün.....? (yes, I know he isn't exactly everybody's darling on this board)

His rookie contract is quite an issue. Spurs would need to pick his $10.4M 27/28 option before the start of the 26/27 season to keep him.

Money will start to be tight in 27/28 for Spurs with Wembanyama's extension. Spending $10.4M on a gamble like Salaün is too much to me.

 

[Sugus]

Crazy take maybe, but I'd much rather spend those 3 FRPs on Trey Murphy than on Giannis. Star power alone doesn't win games, and TMIII would be such a better fit it's ridiculous.

The Pels wouldn't do it I guess, but man, I'd be asking if we could send them 4 FRPs instead and forego the "prospect"..... If interest from both sides is real as reported, I'm all over that.

Send them the ATL pick, another extra, and a far-out pick or two, and we're suddenly True Contenders™ for this immediate season. Murphy's only 25 so he'll grow with our team, he plugs a lot of our holes and gives positional size and versatility........ Someone wake me up cause it's not happening

 

[French Vanilla]

we got options. He seems to have a good market.

https://twitter.com/x/status/2016516688074690633

None of those teams will give up anything good for him. Second rounders or scrubs off the bench. No reason to trade him in the west if you are getting nothing in return.

Crazy take maybe, but I'd much rather spend those 3 FRPs on Trey Murphy than on Giannis. Star power alone doesn't win games, and TMIII would be such a better fit it's ridiculous.

The Pels wouldn't do it I guess, but man, I'd be asking if we could send them 4 FRPs instead and forego the "prospect"..... If interest from both sides is real as reported, I'm all over that.

Send them the ATL pick, another extra, and a far-out pick or two, and we're suddenly True Contenders™ for this immediate season. Murphy's only 25 so he'll grow with our team, he plugs a lot of our holes and gives positional size and versatility........ Someone wake me up cause it's not happening

Can you use fill a void or improves a weakness instead in the future, my friend?

 

[gospursgo91]

We need 1-2 more shooters

 

[Guru of Nothing]

Sending out a lot of picks for any player right now is an exercise in instant gratification and it would lead to (A) salary cap woes, (B) an empty quiver for when we need it most, and (C) and depth issues. Besides, I'm not confident that any new player could step on to the court and be a difference maker in time for the playoffs ... Well, maybe Jokic.

Let's wait until we've got a desperate team on the other end of negotiations, and then figure something out.

 

[poopbox]

Sending out a lot of picks for any player right now is an exercise in instant gratification and it would lead to (A) salary cap woes, (B) an empty quiver for when we need it most, and (C) and depth issues. Besides, I'm not confident that any new player could step on to the court and be a difference maker in time for the playoffs ... Well, maybe Jokic.

Let's wait until we've got a desperate team on the other end of negotiations, and then figure something out.

I mean most teams in the "we finally trying to be good after a long time" phase don't make any in season trade that first year. OKC didn't. Houston didn't. I'd be shocked if we do much other than trade Sochan for virtually nothing. The price for players is probably way higher now to in season when teams know other teams might be desperate.

 

[1kangaroo]

I mean most teams in the "we finally trying to be good after a long time" phase don't make any in season trade that first year. OKC didn't. Houston didn't. I'd be shocked if we do much other than trade Sochan for virtually nothing. The price for players is probably way higher now to in season when teams know other teams might be desperate.

I am fine with in season trades but they need to make sense not big splashy and giving up tons of assets type but sorry if we can get a player like Aldama on reasonable deal one that want kill the team long term and fills a need (cough cough a power froward) fine but 3 picks for tmiii heck no way to much

 

[Neuromancer]

Knecht for Sochan seems like a solid straight up deal. Yeah he sucks on D but he can shoot and our defense is good enough to hide a bad defender. He probably would really benefit from a change of scenery also. He looks even worse playing next to a bunch of defensive bums

 

[LeBowen]

Knecht for Sochan seems like a solid straight up deal. Yeah he sucks on D but he can shoot and our defense is good enough to hide a bad defender. He probably would really benefit from a change of scenery also. He looks even worse playing next to a bunch of defensive bums

But can he shoot?
He's got Luka and Lebron setting him up and is at 32% this season.
37% last year. Which isn't great if you're a traffic cone on defense.

 

[Sugus]

Sending out a lot of picks for any player right now is an exercise in instant gratification and it would lead to (A) salary cap woes, (B) an empty quiver for when we need it most, and (C) and depth issues. Besides, I'm not confident that any new player could step on to the court and be a difference maker in time for the playoffs ... Well, maybe Jokic.

Let's wait until we've got a desperate team on the other end of negotiations, and then figure something out.

On the one hand, you're right, but on the other.... Players like Trey Murphy, OG Anunoby, the true 3&D Forwards of the league -- we're never getting one of those without shelling out pickS. Mid-season, off-season, whenever.

So I do have a bit of hesitance with the whole "let's be patient on trades" stuff. The Fox type of deals, where a Great player forces their way to the Spurs so we can get them for pennies, are rarities, and you have to pony up the cash eventually. I'm fine with waiting as a concept....... But it's gotta be waiting for something. I don't think a playoff beatdown is needed for us and the FO to see that there's a massive SF/PF gap on the roster right now, and next season, and all seasons until it's directly addressed. That's useless waiting to me.

IF the Spurs were not playing like a top-of-the-league, but still-missing-a-piece type of team, I'd be feeling more cautious. But man......... It's just wide open right now. We've beaten the champs 3 times this season! Currently hold a top 3 record in the league! It certainly warrants some level of investment IMHO....... Or else, what are we waiting for - a healthy off-season for Aaron Gordon, Fred VanVleet, etc...?

 

[Neuromancer]

But can he shoot?
He's got Luka and Lebron setting him up and is at 32% this season.
37% last year. Which isn't great if you're a traffic cone on defense.

37.6% on 4.5 attempts is solid. This year he sucks but his minutes are down and Reddick plays him very inconsistently. Dudes been mentally checked out ever since they tried to trade him for Mark Williams. Really think he would benefit playing in a different environment with young guys who aren't all defensive traffic cones too

 

[e78]

Im hesitant on TMIII at this point with all the guards/forwards we have that can play the 3 spot. Hes an upgrade but like how much of an upgrade especially considering the cost.

I'd much rather go after someone that can play the 4.

 

[LeBowen]

37.6% on 4.5 attempts is solid. This year he sucks but his minutes are down and Reddick plays him very inconsistently. Dudes mentally checked out. Really think he would benefit playing in a different environment with young guys who aren't all defensive traffic cones too

The issue is that we don't have any minutes available for any position other than PF.
Noone except Barnes should have their minutes reduced and we have Harper that's not playing enough.

I'm not in the camp of making a trade for the sake of making a trade.
I don't think Waters is any worse than Knecht.

 

[k....]

The only issue with castle if he still thinks he should be #1 PG. i think the spurs will continue to play him at PG to see if he unlocks it, but run proper guard lineups when it counts like against divisional rivals and such. But if you think castle won't except the pay, status, or touches of a thrid banana then you have to trade him now even of he is the best defensive player we have

 

[Degoat]

Trading Sochan for Knecht is a no brainer if it’s on the table, I doubt it actually is tho.

 

[RC_Drunkford]

Knecht for Sochan seems like a solid straight up deal. Yeah he sucks on D but he can shoot and our defense is good enough to hide a bad defender. He probably would really benefit from a change of scenery also. He looks even worse playing next to a bunch of defensive bums

as soon as he had his breakout game in his rookie year, the guy got worse every month. He's almost unplayable out there. Those 30-point highlight games never happened again after teams got some scouting on him.

 

[RC_Drunkford]

On the one hand, you're right, but on the other.... Players like Trey Murphy, OG Anunoby, the true 3&D Forwards of the league -- we're never getting one of those without shelling out pickS. Mid-season, off-season, whenever.

So I do have a bit of hesitance with the whole "let's be patient on trades" stuff. The Fox type of deals, where a Great player forces their way to the Spurs so we can get them for pennies, are rarities, and you have to pony up the cash eventually. I'm fine with waiting as a concept....... But it's gotta be waiting for something. I don't think a playoff beatdown is needed for us and the FO to see that there's a massive SF/PF gap on the roster right now, and next season, and all seasons until it's directly addressed. That's useless waiting to me.

IF the Spurs were not playing like a top-of-the-league, but still-missing-a-piece type of team, I'd be feeling more cautious. But man......... It's just wide open right now. We've beaten the champs 3 times this season! Currently hold a top 3 record in the league! It certainly warrants some level of investment IMHO....... Or else, what are we waiting for - a healthy off-season for Aaron Gordon, Fred VanVleet, etc...?

we are waiting for this team to gain some experience. Playoff basketball is more physical and slower. 2 things our team struggles with. They gonna fold like a lawn chair eventually, so they don't have to make a trade like that. Although I'd love to get someone like Aldama for 1 first round pick, but the FOs approach makes complete sense here.

 

[Thoodee]

On the one hand, you're right, but on the other.... Players like Trey Murphy, OG Anunoby, the true 3&D Forwards of the league -- we're never getting one of those without shelling out pickS. Mid-season, off-season, whenever.

So I do have a bit of hesitance with the whole "let's be patient on trades" stuff. The Fox type of deals, where a Great player forces their way to the Spurs so we can get them for pennies, are rarities, and you have to pony up the cash eventually. I'm fine with waiting as a concept....... But it's gotta be waiting for something. I don't think a playoff beatdown is needed for us and the FO to see that there's a massive SF/PF gap on the roster right now, and next season, and all seasons until it's directly addressed. That's useless waiting to me.

IF the Spurs were not playing like a top-of-the-league, but still-missing-a-piece type of team, I'd be feeling more cautious. But man......... It's just wide open right now. We've beaten the champs 3 times this season! Currently hold a top 3 record in the league! It certainly warrants some level of investment IMHO....... Or else, what are we waiting for - a healthy off-season for Aaron Gordon, Fred VanVleet, etc...

I would agree, your fooling yourself if your holding your breath thinking spurs will somehow get a steal for this type of player. However, TM3 was selected 17th overall, and OG 23rd. Add the fact that quality players will be staying further into college due to NIL monies, leading to more quality picks possibly even into the second round. I think the likelihood of spurs finding a similar player in the next couple of years via draft and their 10 picks is much higher than realized. Might be looked at as counting our chickens before they hatch, but mortgaging the future to win one ring this year would be recklessly shortsighted.

 

[John B]

My shopping list is a big body C as insurance in the playoffs. Kornet getting hurt really exposed this.

I like Castle and Keldon’s work on KD and Sengun last night, reminiscent of Bowen and how Pop would put Manu/Green. But that was a superior playoff tested Spurs team. If the Spurs would lose Sochan, I want a true 3andD SF/PF. Herb Jones or TM3 comes to mind.

 

[scott]

We should be able to make some decent moves around the margins (3rd C, backup PF, bench shooter, etc) using SRPs if the past is any indication... and I think the value of SRPs has only INCREASED over time with the new CBA and NIL rules... let's see if the Spurs can take advantage of this warchest of SRPs we've amassed. So far we've only used them to sell for cash, the least satisfying trade imaginable for us fans.

 

[RC_Drunkford]

The Los Angeles Lakers have gauged the trade market looking for 3-and-D wing help, with targets ranging from Herb Jones to Andrew Wiggins to Jonathan Kuminga to Saddiq Bey, etcetera.

With that in mind, the Lakers have dangled the expiring contracts of Rui Hachimura ($18.26 million), Gabe Vincent ($11.5 million), and Maxi Kleber ($11 million) on the trade market, league sources told HoopsHype.

Since they are also rumored to be in the market for Sochan, give them Olynyk as well and bring on Rui.