Trade Spurs Trade Ideas

[Kick-Stand]

Im sure it's been mentioned already but Sochan/Olynyk/Hawks '27 works for Myles Turner tbh.

Bucks are heading towards a blow up and get to move off of Turner's money while getting a reclamation project in Jeremy plus another first that might have some added value in a Giannis/Hawks swap.

Wemby/Turner/Luke is a great big rotation tbh.

I hate it. Going into the aprons to either move Wemby out of the position he plays best at or to pay through the nose for a backup center is suicide.

 

[RC_Drunkford]

Thad was part of the return from Chicago in the DeRozan trade, not a FA signee.

and neither was Olynyk which is exactly why I mentioned Young

 

[Shmurs]

Turner is mentally weak and his body is about to crumble.

 

[RC_Drunkford]

Yabu played a full season of good basketball last year. 20 games of not performing on one of the weirdest teams in the league means he’s terrible?

He can shoot and is a big body you could throw out there as 3C or depth at 4 and do pretty well. I’m not sure why folks would be eager to shit on the guy. He would be a good depth piece for a team that just needs a warm bodied big.

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[Mugen]

I hate it. Going into the aprons to either move Wemby out of the position he plays best at or to pay through the nose for a backup center is suicide.

Turner would be de facto starting C, Luke remains backup.

And yes, Wemby's best position defensively is obviously C. But until he shows that he can handle half a season of banging down low or have a go to move against the likes of Caruso that isn't a fade away J, I'm not sure if C is his best position offensively. Wemby/Turner would be basically a souped up version of Chat/IHart.

 

[PocketMonger]

Keeping going back to John Collins. He's a buy low rental who having a bad season on a bad team. His price can't be much higher than Sochan and KO plus two future second picks. He's not cost prohibitive and he can play the 4 next to Wemby and Kornet while being the small ball 5 with HB if needed. Perfect fit on the court without being too costly.

 

[mo7888]

Keeping going back to John Collins. He's a buy low rental who having a bad season on a bad team. His price can't be much higher than Sochan and KO plus two future second picks. He's not cost prohibitive and he can play the 4 next to Wemby and Kornet while being the small ball 5 with HB if needed. Perfect fit on the court without being too costly.

Except for being a small ball 5 I agree with the rest of that.

 

[Seventyniner]

Is De’Andre Hunter cooked? Be gives me mental midget vibes, but on paper seems like a good fit.

At the very least they can move Kelly/Sochan and roll over the expiring for a year. Gotta use those expirings somehow.

This is an interesting name. The Cavs are in the second apron and are a huge disappointment. Hunter is due 24 million next year, the Cavs getting expirings for him would go a long way towards solving their tax and apron situation if they get desperate around the deadline. Hunter himself is having a subpar season but he shoots 36.7% from three for his career and 39.6% his previous two seasons combined. Adding a first to Sochan/Olynyk is too much to pay and a couple seconds might not be enough for Cleveland. Also leaves a big hole at the 4, Hunter is at best a 50/50 3/4, not close to a full-time 4.

 

[Bruno]

Regarding the whole third string center thing:

Spurs points differential per 100 possessions depending on who is the center (I'm leaving out 2 centers lineups):
Wembanyama (397 minutes): +13.34
Kornet (402 minutes): +5.63
Olynyk (143 minutes): +16.69
Sochan (138 minutes): -4.67
Biyombo (61 minutes): -22.45

So:
- Spurs are doing surprisingly well with Olynyk at center given that he mostly hasn't looked good. His personals stats are also fine with a PER of 14.9. Is it a fluke or is Olynyk the kind of vet who can positively impact a game just by knowing how to play?
- Biyombo is a disaster. There are no on the court reasons to keep him past the January 10th guaranteed deadline.
- At nobody's surprise, Sochan at center still don't work.

 

[RC_Drunkford]

Keeping going back to John Collins. He's a buy low rental who having a bad season on a bad team. His price can't be much higher than Sochan and KO plus two future second picks. He's not cost prohibitive and he can play the 4 next to Wemby and Kornet while being the small ball 5 with HB if needed. Perfect fit on the court without being too costly.

as the leader of the John Collins fan club, I'm not sure about his fit with our current play style. First of all, he should never ever play smallball 5. It hasn't worked on the Hawks nor the Jazz. It's terrible.

He'd certainly be an upgrade for Sochan, which is why I wouldn't mind making that trade. With that being said he's not exactly a switchable perimeter defender. He can basically just guard 4s, so defensively he's not really what we are looking for when it comes to improving our perimeter D.

His strength is rebounding, rolling to the rim, setting screens and lob plays which should all mesh well with our guards. It's just that with Wemby trying to play inside, those things will be a lot less valuable than last season for example. His 3P% is down, although I'm not worried about it since he plays on a bad Clippers team and has a long history of good shooting numbers.

 

[spurraider21]

ive been a JoCo proponent for a while. we'd have to match his 26.6 mil salary (he's expiring, so that helps)... and i dont know what part of your team you'd send out now. i think we are past the point of vassell just being a pure salary dump even though their salaries match quite well

however, we could get their by pairing KO with Sochan. per Spotrac, the following trade works:

Olynyk and Sochan for John Collins... and Chris Paul (if we want him. he still hasn't been waived)

as a side note, we have 3 SRPs this year, and lord knows we arent going to draft 3 players in the second round. id rather make use of them now than wait until draft week and get cash considerations

 

[Exstatic]

This is an interesting name. The Cavs are in the second apron and are a huge disappointment. Hunter is due 24 million next year, the Cavs getting expirings for him would go a long way towards solving their tax and apron situation if they get desperate around the deadline. Hunter himself is having a subpar season but he shoots 36.7% from three for his career and 39.6% his previous two seasons combined. Adding a first to Sochan/Olynyk is too much to pay and a couple seconds might not be enough for Cleveland. Also leaves a big hole at the 4, Hunter is at best a 50/50 3/4, not close to a full-time 4.

Cleveland cannot take back multiple players for one. That’s one of the penalties of the second apron. Bill Simmons latest drop illustrates their total lack of ability to make a trade. He said there should just be a team meeting, and they should tell the players that this is the team, and if they want things to be better, they need to make it happen.

 

[Seventyniner]

Cleveland cannot take back multiple players for one. That’s one of the penalties of the second apron. Bill Simmons latest drop illustrates their total lack of ability to make a trade. He said there should just be a team meeting, and they should tell the players that this is the team, and if they want things to be better, they need to make it happen.

I thought it was the other way around, that second apron teams can't aggregate salaries together in a trade, so Cleveland couldn't package 2 or more players to land 1 player who makes as much as the others combined. I didn't think they were restricted from doing the opposite.

 

[Quentin_Compson]

Collins looks good on paper for the Spurs ... but he also looks like a player who doesn't contribute much to winning basketball throughout his career.

 

[spurraider21]

Collins looks good on paper for the Spurs ... but he also looks like a player who doesn't contribute much to winning basketball throughout his career.

clippers are a wreck this year but they're still much better with him on the court than without

and it was the same story with the jazz last year. they were bad regardless, but much worse with him off the floor

 

[Quentin_Compson]

Do you think he could/would be a winning player on the Spurs? It would be contributing to winning on a good team, which was the point I was trying to make. I used to be rather pro Collins, but I am not so sure anymore. My fear is that he will always be the kind of player he is with the Clippers right now.

 

[spurraider21]

Do you think he could/would be a winning player on the Spurs? It would be contributing to winning on a good team, which was the point I was trying to make. I used to be rather pro Collins, but I am not so sure anymore. My fear is that he will always be the kind of player he is with the Clippers right now.

ive been a collins stan for a while so im probably not the most objective on this. i just think from a player/skill profile, he checks a lot of boxes. whether it would work out in practice... who knows

 

[Uncle Oscar]

I see Collins as a low risk acquisition assuming it's Sochan and KO going back. We get his expiring and see if and how he meshes with the team. If he works out we sign him to a 4/60 team option on year 4. If he doesn't mesh, he doesn't return to the team. Sochan is going to be gone one way or another. JC is 28 and has never been a bad actor anywhere he's been. He's not a volume guy and doesnt have an injury history. We wouldn't be breaking the bank for the guy nor taking on a bad contract. But he's a 4 and getting rid of KO means we have to find another backup 5 somewhere.

 

[CGD]

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