Trade Spurs Trade Ideas

[Spursgenius]

Giannis, Turner, Gary Trent for Fox, Sochan, Vassel, Mclaughlin and 3 FRPs 26, 27,28.

 

[CGD]

How long till Giannis asks for a trade.. Bucks are 9-13 and just lost to the Wiz.

probably next summer. I think that has always been the play for him.

 

[Ice009]

I wonder how Turner would feel if he does leave next season. He should have just stayed in Indiana.

 

[JJSPUR]

I would agree that a long term and substantial upgrade will require Dev. Sochan can fetch you a rental upgrade only.

If the Mavs blow it up the Spurs have to call about PJ Washington although the Mavs probably so no since he's only 27 and they might be eyeing a quick rebuild around Flagg. If the Nico wasn't such an idiot they should have gotten Austin Reaves in the Luka deal. They would have a very bright future with Reaves/Flagg and whatever assets they get from an AD and possible Kyrie trade.

Washington is a decent player and on a good contract, but I don't think he can be traded this year. It would be nice to have a player of his caliber though.

 

[Guru of Nothing]

What are the odds Giannis is dealt before the start of next season? I'd say they are north of 90%, and the Bucks would be wise to target the deal that retrieves the single best player, and not repeat the results of that time they traded Kareem.

Most likely destinations, maybe:

• ATL - The Hawks can bring a lot to any trade discussion, between possibly moving off of Trae and getting a good break in the lottery with the Pelicans pick. Staying in the East is a plus for Giannis.
• HOU - If the Rockets come up short this year, would they push all-in and, I don't know, say deal Sengun for Giannis to maximize the Durant window? Feels 80/20: 80% chance HOU regrets deal, but 20% they hit the jackpot.
• MIA - Can Pat Riley make it happen?
• other - Not the Spurs, please. I like the ride we're on right now just fine.

 

[Valparaiso]

What are the odds Giannis is dealt before the start of next season? I'd say they are north of 90%, and the Bucks would be wise to target the deal that retrieves the single best player, and not repeat the results of that time they traded Kareem.

Most likely destinations, maybe:

• ATL - The Hawks can bring a lot to any trade discussion, between possibly moving off of Trae and getting a good break in the lottery with the Pelicans pick. Staying in the East is a plus for Giannis.
• HOU - If the Rockets come up short this year, would they push all-in and, I don't know, say deal Sengun for Giannis to maximize the Durant window? Feels 80/20: 80% chance HOU regrets deal, but 20% they hit the jackpot.
• MIA - Can Pat Riley make it happen?
• other - Not the Spurs, please. I like the ride we're on right now just fine.

I'd say at this point Sengun's impact is higher than Durant's, so it'd be hard to justify trading the 23 yr old rising star to prioritize around the 37 yr old star. It's kind of astonishing, but the highest BPM on the team now belongs to Reed Sheppard, who also has a higher TS% than Durant. Although, on the other hand, so many other teams have tried to replicate a Golden State-like formula but failed because they didn't have two shooters at the level of Steph & Klay. I suppose KD & Reed could be the closest approximation of that, with Giannis playing the Draymond role. On paper, it definitely works.

 

[LeBowen]

How about Nikola Jovic?
Out of rotation in Miami.
$4.5M this season, 62/4 extension kicks in next summer.

Averaged 11/4/3 last season, 37% 3pt on 4.6 attempts.
An all-round PF we could use if Miami are looking to move him.

Would it be worth moving '26 FRP for him? And I'd assume Sochan.

 

[Exstatic]

How about Nikola Jovic?
Out of rotation in Miami.
$4.5M this season, 62/4 extension kicks in next summer.

Averaged 11/4/3 last season, 37% 3pt on 4.6 attempts.
An all-round PF we could use if Miami are looking to move him.

Would it be worth moving '26 FRP for him? And I'd assume Sochan.

Much as you’d like to shoehorn him into that spot, he is not a 4. I don’t care if he’s 6’10”. His rebounding rate is weak, and he’s a stick figure. His actual position is like a point 2/3.

 

[LeBowen]

Much as you’d like to shoehorn him into that spot, he is not a 4. I don’t care if he’s 6’10”. His rebounding rate is weak, and he’s a stick figure. His actual position is like a point 2/3.

6.5 per 36 career average.
He's not a traditional PF in that regard, but his skillset fits what Spurs are trying to do.

 

[Exstatic]

6.5 per 36 career average.
He's not a traditional PF in that regard, but his skillset fits what Spurs are trying to do.

His shooting has kind of fallen off a cliff this year, too, even with rotation minutes until Herro returned.

I also don’t want to give an FRP for a guy who’s team doesn’t have him in their rotation.

I’m referring to rebounding rate, not the counting stat rebounds per game. His is 10.3% this year, 10.1% career. That’s lightweight rebounding.

 

[LeBowen]

His shooting has kind of fallen off a cliff this year, too, even with rotation minutes until Herro returned.

I also don’t want to give an FRP for a guy who’s team doesn’t have him in their rotation.

He's 22, under contract until 2030.
If Spurs think he's got another few levels in him, FRP in #15-20 range is worth giving up.

 

[scott]

It might be worth looking at guys having anomalously bad 3P% seasons.

If the Spurs do anything, it's likely to be bargain shopping at the fringes. That means we need to look at reclamation projects, bad contracts, and dudes having off years who can recover with a change of scenery. Getting the "perfect fit" who is performing is going to come with a price the Spurs aren't going to pay.

 

[mo7888]

It might be worth looking at guys having anomalously bad 3P% seasons.

If the Spurs do anything, it's likely to be bargain shopping at the fringes. That means we need to look at reclamation projects, bad contracts, and dudes having off years who can recover with a change of scenery. Getting the "perfect fit" who is performing is going to come with a price the Spurs aren't going to pay.

That sounds like Bogdanovic (NY) or Huerter in Chi. Huerter o may be stretching though..

 

[PocketMonger]

Dean Wade would be an interesting free agent target in the summer. Career 36% three point shooter with really nice defensive metrics. He’s having a down season so he wouldn’t cost much and just turned 30.

 

[scott]

Dean Wade would be an interesting free agent target in the summer. Career 36% three point shooter with really nice defensive metrics. He’s having a down season so he wouldn’t cost much and just turned 30.

I've had my eyes on Wade for a few seasons now... like his fit a lot for us!

 

[PocketMonger]

I've had my eyes on Wade for a few seasons now... like his fit a lot for us!

Double checked and he just turned 29 not 30. Only complaint is that he's a weak rebounder for a PF. Great fit otherwise and wont cost much.

Torn on how the Spurs should use their cap space because its going to dry up eventually no matter what they do . Might as well make a short term splash.

 

[Kick-Stand]

Giannis, Turner, Gary Trent for Fox, Sochan, Vassel, Mclaughlin and 3 FRPs 26, 27,28.

Can't trade the ATL 2027 pick because of the Stepien Rule. Spurs would have to find some way to get a 2027 first from someone to make that trade legal.

 

[LeBowen]

Can't trade the ATL 2027 pick because of the Stepien Rule. Spurs would have to find some way to get a 2027 first from someone to make that trade legal.

Really? We have both '26 and '28.
'26 is with a swap attached, but it's still a guaranteed pick.

 

[Kick-Stand]

What are the odds Giannis is dealt before the start of next season? I'd say they are north of 90%, and the Bucks would be wise to target the deal that retrieves the single best player, and not repeat the results of that time they traded Kareem.

Most likely destinations, maybe:

• ATL - The Hawks can bring a lot to any trade discussion, between possibly moving off of Trae and getting a good break in the lottery with the Pelicans pick. Staying in the East is a plus for Giannis.
• HOU - If the Rockets come up short this year, would they push all-in and, I don't know, say deal Sengun for Giannis to maximize the Durant window? Feels 80/20: 80% chance HOU regrets deal, but 20% they hit the jackpot.
• MIA - Can Pat Riley make it happen?
• other - Not the Spurs, please. I like the ride we're on right now just fine.

If Milwaukee wants that Dumars pick they need to send Giannis to ATL before the deadline. Otherwise Atlanta's not trading Peterson / Dybantsa / Boozer and if the pick is 4 or lower it's not much of an asset for the Bucks.

 

[Kick-Stand]

Really? We have both '26 and '28.
'26 is with a swap attached, but it's still a guaranteed pick.

Make that trade and the Spurs have no first round pick in 26, 27, or 28, and you can't have no first in back to back years. They'd need to trade for someone's 2027 pick since they already traded away their own 2027 to Sacramento in the Fox trade, so don't have an extra in 2027 anymore to make up for sending out the ATL 2027 in your trade proposal.

 

[LeBowen]

Make that trade and the Spurs have no first round pick in 26, 27, or 28, and you can't have no first in back to back years.

But we do have picks in both '26 and '28 with a swap that we control, not the other way around.
We don't need to have a pick every year. Just can't have two consecutive years with no picks under our control.

(Disregard, I didn't see that the trade proposal is sending away all those picks.)

 

[BacktoBasics]

It might be worth looking at guys having anomalously bad 3P% seasons.

If the Spurs do anything, it's likely to be bargain shopping at the fringes. That means we need to look at reclamation projects, bad contracts, and dudes having off years who can recover with a change of scenery. Getting the "perfect fit" who is performing is going to come with a price the Spurs aren't going to pay.

Bargain hunting in exactly what they should be doing. I’ve come to terms with Sochan being moved.

But so many here want to trade legitimate rotation players that are productive for bargain contracts and/or players that fit a single line item statistic.

I cringe at that thought.

 

[LeBowen]

Bargain hunting in exactly what they should be doing. I’ve come to terms with Sochan being moved.

But so many here want to trade legitimate rotation players that are productive for bargain contracts and/or players that fit a single line item statistic.

I cringe at that thought.

Imo, the only players our front office sees as expendable are Olynyk, Sochan and the DNP guys.
But who's going to take Biyombo, Waters or McLaughlin other than as a filler for a bigger trade? They'll be there as a salary match if needed.

 

[RC_Drunkford]

It might be worth looking at guys having anomalously bad 3P% seasons.

If the Spurs do anything, it's likely to be bargain shopping at the fringes. That means we need to look at reclamation projects, bad contracts, and dudes having off years who can recover with a change of scenery. Getting the "perfect fit" who is performing is going to come with a price the Spurs aren't going to pay.

Haywood Highsmith

 

[DAF86]

I wouldn't trade either Harper nor Castle to get Giannis, tbh.

I would trade Fox but the Spurs are never going to do that, and they might be right.