Trade Spurs Trade Ideas

[spurraider21]

just looks like Trae Young tbh

 

[spursistan]

Officially back to our default "we like what we have" posture.

 

[FiestaSpurs]

 

[French Vanilla]

It will be interesting to see who signs John Collins to a new contract then wants to trade him a year later.

 

[DTW]

The Bucks currently have the 9th worst record in the league. If their pick ends up in that range and if star lead guard X would be enough to get Antetokounmpo to extend, here's a 3 team trade that I think works financially or would with some tweaks . . .

Bucks receive: Fox

Pelicans receive: Kuzma, Portis, Green, Bucks '26 1st, Spurs (via Hawks) '27 1st and multiple 2nds

Spurs receive: Murray, Murphy

 

[Exstatic]

The Bucks currently have the 9th worst record in the league. If their pick ends up in that range and if star lead guard X would be enough to get Antetokounmpo to extend, here's a 3 team trade that I think works financially or would with some tweaks . . .

Bucks receive: Fox

Pelicans receive: Kuzma, Portis, Green, Bucks '26 1st, Spurs (via Hawks) '27 1st and multiple 2nds

Spurs receive: Murray, Murphy

Can’t trade 26 and 27.

 

[DTW]

Can’t trade 26 and 27.

You can when it's from two different teams.

 

[Ariel]

Can’t trade 26 and 27.

One comes from Milwaukee and the other from the Spurs (Atlanta's pick). Even if it wasn't the case, on draft night you can draft someone, and immediately trade their draft rights and your '27 pick, effectively moving two consecutive picks.

 

[Corso]

You can when it's from two different teams.

I'm not sure that's right.

 

[Ariel]

I'm not sure that's right.

He means it's a three team trade, where New Orleans is receiving two picks, but each of them come from a different team (one from Milwaukee, one from the Spurs -Atlanta's-). The Stepien rule only stipulates that any team cannot be left without picks on consecutive years, that doesn't happen here for either team.

 

[brazil]

This trade deadline is a missed opportunity for the Spurs. I don't like the we are happy with what we have attitude, Spurs have still significant needs to fill in particular in the shooting department and Sochan is still there doing nothing. The spacing issue will be our downfall during the POs. Doing nothing the Spurs are bascally saying not this year. The chance of the Spurs ringing this year is obviously very slim but some slight adjustments in the roster could have helped us get better odds..

 

[LeBowen]

This trade deadline is a missed opportunity for the Spurs. I don't like the we are happy with what we have attitude, Spurs have still significant needs to fill in particular in the shooting department and Sochan is still there doing nothing. The spacing issue will be our downfall during the POs. Doing nothing the Spurs are bascally saying not this year. The chance of the Spurs ringing this year is obviously very slim but some slight adjustments in the roster could have helped us get better odds..

And yet again I'll ask, who's minutes are you taking away?

4 perimeter positions, 7 players in the rotation, with noone being at more than 32mpg, which should easily go to 34-36mpg in the playoffs for key players.
Barnes is the only one that should've been upgrade, but how many 6'7 or taller wings that can shoot high volume and aren't a negative on defense were available?
What would be the point of getting one of those shitty 3-no-D guys when our entire identity is based on aggressive perimeter defense and size?

Our downfall will be the young guys not having enough experience and development time, but you can't take away Castle/Harper minutes in favor of a bench shooter that's going to give all those points right back on the end.

And ultimately, we'll go as far as Wemby takes us.

 

[brazil]

And yet again I'll ask, who's minutes are you taking away?

4 perimeter positions, 7 players in the rotation, with noone being at more than 32mpg, which should easily go to 34-36mpg in the playoffs for key players.
Barnes is the only one that should've been upgrade, but how many 6'7 or taller wings that can shoot high volume and aren't a negative on defense were available?
What would be the point of getting one of those shitty 3-no-D guys when our entire identity is based on aggressive perimeter defense and size?

Our downfall will be the young guys not having enough experience and development time, but you can't take away Castle/Harper minutes in favor of a bench shooter that's going to give all those points right back on the end.

And ultimately, we'll go as far as Wemby takes us.

Depends on the match ups and the profile of the player you would add to the roster. The first one to take away minutes is obviously Barnes, Barnes is valuable but not for 30 mpg. Ideally you would have a F with good size capable defender who can be a threat in the shooting department a bit like what we should have with Sochan or Carter in a couple of years potentially.

I would not take away minutes from Castle/Harper tbh.

Now you are right the profile is hard to find, if the Spurs tried and failed because too expensive ok that's life but I'm not sure they did. Also the topic is known for the last two years, it's not like FO had no time to prepare, maybe they got surprised by the rapid decline of Barnes after a great season last year but it was not that difficult to foresee. Now we are stuck with Sochan who should have been dealt with way sooner when he had still a value now he is pretty much worthless

 

[LeBowen]

but I'm not sure they did

Tbh, I don't think there's anything else to add.
Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but we can't really talk about something we can't know for a fact.

it's not like FO had no time to prepare, maybe they got surprised by the rapid decline of Barnes after a great season last year but it was not that difficult to foresee

Every team has weak points, even OKC.
Could've have done better? Noone can know for sure. We won't know the Grizzlies' asking price for Aldama until he gets traded.

Now we are stuck with Sochan who should have been dealt with way sooner when he had still a value now he is pretty much worthless

Again, I don't think he had any relevant value.
He was in that KD offer.

I'd say the biggest mistake was not keeping Mamu considering his level of play this season.

 

[ginobilized]

The playoffs will force this squad to stretch and play at new levels, hence, this is a development year. I'm certain that the point of this development is to become a perennial championship contender. Changing the chemistry and adding players to compensate for weaknesses robs these players of the chance to overcome their own deficiencies and thus strengthen the team from within. After the last game, I believe there is plenty of potential left untapped on this team and we can explore multiple ways to win while improving. Wemby, Castle and Harper are unknown commodities as far as the NBA playoffs are concerned, and, I believe they are going to become incredible winners. They need a lot of reps and I can't wait to see how it all plays out.

If we play .500 ball for the rest of the season we end up 51-31. If we stay on our current trajectory of .692, we will end up around 56-26 (57-25). I see no reason other than injuries that would stop this from happening. Not sure that a trade deadline move gives us a better chance. Often the opposite occurs.

This may be an offseason where we try to improve through the draft and we might get lucky with a high pick one more time. Caleb Wilson is the guy I'd love to add, but far more likely that whatever we do in the summer will be quietly unsexy and possibly judiciously Spursian.

 

[brazil]

Tbh, I don't think there's anything else to add.
Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but we can't really talk about something we can't know for a fact.


Every team has weak points, even OKC.
Could've have done better? Noone can know for sure. We won't know the Grizzlies' asking price for Aldama until he gets traded.


Again, I don't think he had any relevant value.
He was in that KD offer.

I'd say the biggest mistake was not keeping Mamu considering his level of play this season.

Sure this is why I said I'm not sure.

OKC has weak points but not in terms of roster construction, they have all the pieces they needed and that's why they are reigning champ now repeating is an entire other topic, there are good reasons why teams struggle to repeat.

I think Spurs were not just expecting to be that good already and were not ready for a win mode, thus the no rush before knowing what they have. I'm not blaming them I was in the school of being happy with a play in and a first round exit. Adding shooting was nevertheless needed and known, Spurs fixed the back up C with Kornhub and this window could have potentially be a remedy to the shooting... At the end could have should have.. didn't.

I'm more than happy with Spurs season. Come POs time though I expect us to yell at clouds when our shooting role players champ, barnes and vassell won't connect those 3 triggering a paint packed with no space for fox, haper, castle and victor to operate "forcing" Victor to take 10 3s a game. I was not expecting a second seed and still here we are so this team may surprise us.

 

[CGD]

just looks like Trae Young tbh

Kinda sums up his current value TBH

 

[Kick-Stand]

nevermind

 

[scott]

And yet again I'll ask, who's minutes are you taking away?

4 perimeter positions, 7 players in the rotation, with noone being at more than 32mpg, which should easily go to 34-36mpg in the playoffs for key players.
Barnes is the only one that should've been upgrade, but how many 6'7 or taller wings that can shoot high volume and aren't a negative on defense were available?
What would be the point of getting one of those shitty 3-no-D guys when our entire identity is based on aggressive perimeter defense and size?

Our downfall will be the young guys not having enough experience and development time, but you can't take away Castle/Harper minutes in favor of a bench shooter that's going to give all those points right back on the end.

And ultimately, we'll go as far as Wemby takes us.

A player doesn't need to be in the full-time regular rotation to be an important acquisition in a deep playoff run..

It's easy to envision scenarios where a 3rd C would come in handy in a playoff run. Kornet having to miss a game because of a tweaked ankle, Wemby and Luke both getting into foul trouble... etc.

It's also easy to envision a scenario where another bench shooter comes in and makes a difference. Steve Kerr was a deep bench player for us but put in a pretty crucial (and legendary) 13 minutes in a closeout game against Dallas.

There is a "role players don't matter" contingent that exists (for whatever reason) but there is plenty of history that shows us they do.

Right now we basically have no margin for error. If our bigs get in foul trouble, there is nowhere to turn. If we need a shooting spark off the bench our choices are Lindy Waters and JMac. (I am actually slightly less concerned about this one than I am the big man depth... I think Lindy might have a legendary playoff appearance hidden in him).

Either way, this team has a special quality to them and I'm excited to see how it goes. So long as we don't embarrass ourselves in the first round, I'll be good with whatever outcome we get.

 

[LeBowen]

It's easy to envision scenarios where a 3rd C would come in handy in a playoff run. Kornet having to miss a game because of a tweaked ankle, Wemby and Luke both getting into foul trouble... etc.

Fully agree with this.

It's also easy to envision a scenario where another bench shooter comes in and makes a difference. Steve Kerr was a deep bench player for us but put in a pretty crucial (and legendary) 13 minutes in a closeout game against Dallas.

There is a "role players don't matter" contingent that exists (for whatever reason) but there is plenty of history that shows us they do.

Right now we basically have no margin for error. If our bigs get in foul trouble, there is nowhere to turn. If we need a shooting spark off the bench our choices are Lindy Waters and JMac. (I am actually slightly less concerned about this one than I am the big man depth... I think Lindy might have a legendary playoff appearance hidden in him).

I'm not sure what we're seeing right now can be compared with even 5, let alone 20+ years ago.
As we've been discussing for a couple of years, one-way perimeter role players get completely phased out in the playoffs.

What would Kerr do against the Thunder? Give all those points right back.
Even a modern version, Patty, would also be a big negative on defense, despite his best efforts.

As you said, I'm more concerned about our big rotation than shooting because we're not a functional team without Kornet.

 

[DAF86]

Fully agree with this.


I'm not sure what we're seeing right now can be compared with even 5, let alone 20+ years ago.
As we've been discussing for a couple of years, one-way perimeter role players get completely phased out in the playoffs.

What would Kerr do against the Thunder? Give all those points right back.
Even a modern version, Patty, would also be a big negative on defense, despite his best efforts.

As you said, I'm more concerned about our big rotation than shooting because we're not a functional team without Kornet.

I can see the use for a sniper in limited minutes on a specific stretch of a playoffs series. 100% with @scott on this one.

It could be a stretch where neither team is buying a bucket and a flame thrower tilts the game in your favour without a guy on the other team that can make him pay on the other side.

With Wemby you can also play certain defensive schemes to protect the bad defender as much as possible. You can also play zone. There are a number of things that you can do to play an elite 3pt shooter when you need to, imho.

In any case, I think we can all agree that it wouldn't hurt to add a 40% 3pt shooter to the roster just in case.

 

[rascal]

And yet again I'll ask, who's minutes are you taking away?

4 perimeter positions, 7 players in the rotation, with noone being at more than 32mpg, which should easily go to 34-36mpg in the playoffs for key players.
Barnes is the only one that should've been upgrade, but how many 6'7 or taller wings that can shoot high volume and aren't a negative on defense were available?
What would be the point of getting one of those shitty 3-no-D guys when our entire identity is based on aggressive perimeter defense and size?

Our downfall will be the young guys not having enough experience and development time, but you can't take away Castle/Harper minutes in favor of a bench shooter that's going to give all those points right back on the end.

And ultimately, we'll go as far as Wemby takes us.

Vassell and or Barnes as you include them in a trade with Sochan and or a draft pick. Spurs had enough assets to package together but they were not willing to part with any of them outside of Sochan.