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Arcadian said:
Who said that? I would much rather him win league MVP, between the two.
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People who root for load management because winning MVP and other individual awards doesnt matter according to them. But for some reason i saw some poster here rooting wemby to win all star MVP.lmao
 
wEmBoY said:
People who root for load management because winning MVP and other individual awards doesnt matter according to them. But for some reason i saw some poster here rooting wemby to win all star MVP.lmao
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Mate, if I was playing - If I was an MVP level player in the NBA, I would not give a shit about it. I would not give a shit at all. Different people have different perspectives on things. All I care about is winning games and trying to win the Championship.

Just because you care about it, doesn't mean everyone else should too (that includes players). I have no problem with players that care about it. That's up to them. Some care about winning MVP more than winning the Championship.
Then you can use David Robinson as an example, you think he gives a shit about the MVP he got in '95? I'd throw that shit in the bin (I wonder what David has done with it? If he even has it on display? I'm guessing he's got it in a cupboard or something), as I'd still be pissed about not winning it all/losing to the Rockets anytime I think about that season.
 
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Ice009 said:
Mate, if I was playing - If I was an MVP level player in the NBA, I would not give a shit about it. I would not give a shit at all. Different people have different perspectives on things. All I care about is winning games and trying to win the Championship.

Just because you care about it, doesn't mean everyone else should too (that includes players). I have no problem with players that care about it. That's up to them. Some care about winning MVP more than winning the Championship.
Then you can use David Robinson as an example, you think he gives a shit about the MVP he got in '95? I'd throw that shit in the bin (I wonder what David has done with it? If he even has it on display? I'm guessing he's got it in a cupboard or something), as I'd still be pissed about not winning it all/losing to the Rockets anytime I think about that season.
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Nah being the best player in the world means something to people. You only think that way bc you’ve literally never been the best in the world at something. You can want to win a championship all you want but MVPs matter, especially back then when you had a muderers row to get through to win any of those awards.

He probably hated the way that season ended for sure but him losing had more to do with bad coaching and a self sabotaging teammate.
 
Maybe, I don't know, you could be right. I've never been the best in the world at anything, so fair point, I can't comment on that perspective getting to the top. All I know is, I like to dominate/do well at whatever I do. I don't do it for awards. I just like to do it. I like that mentality. Edit : Like, another way I can put it, being the best player on the best team (even if you don't win the MVP) is good enough for me. If I know I'm better than the person that won MVP, I wouldn't lose sleep over it. I'm sure TD had that kind of perspective seeing other guys win MVP in years he won the Championship or came close, he probably considered himself the best player still.

As for D-Rob's season, I still think he probably has the MVP trophy shoved away somewhere. I wonder if anyone's ever asked him about it. Sure, he can go back and look at his teammates and coaching, but I don't think he values that MVP much at all. I could be wrong, and maybe he does have it on display.
 
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BatManu20 said:
Yea pass was really late though to be fair. Didn’t have adequate space to get a shot off.
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watching the video again for the first time in years, I think you're right. I think Kobe wanted to take that shot and only passed it last second. I don't think he was looking to pass it. He just saw TD may have had a better shot and he passed it a bit late.
 
Ice009 said:
Maybe, I don't know, you could be right. I've never been the best in the world at anything, so fair point, I can't comment on that perspective getting to the top. All I know is, I like to dominate/do well at whatever I do. I don't do it for awards. I just like to do it. I like that mentality. Edit : Like, another way I can put it, being the best player on the best team (even if you don't win the MVP) is good enough for me. If I know I'm better than the person that won MVP, I wouldn't lose sleep over it. I'm sure TD had that kind of perspective seeing other guys win MVP in years he won the Championship or came close, he probably considered himself the best player still.

As for D-Rob's season, I still think he probably has the MVP trophy shoved away somewhere. I wonder if anyone's ever asked him about it. Sure, he can go back and look at his teammates and coaching, but I don't think he values that MVP much at all. I could be wrong, and maybe he does have it on display.
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Yeah TD might not care about MVP but his playing time is the same as other superstars in the league. That give him a chance to win MVP and championvhips too(99,03 and 05)

Also wemby acknowledges that he accept to be the face of the nba. How can he be the face of the league if he dont become the best player in the world and he doesnt have someting to prove it because you doent have individual awards like MVP?
 
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wEmBoY said:
Yeah TD might not care about MVP but his playing time is the same as other superstars in the league. That give him a chance to win MVP and championvhips too(99,03 and 05)
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Yes, you're right. I do remember TD playing a ton of minutes in those seasons. I don't know if that caused a fair bit of wear and tear on him, and/or if the Spurs thought the same and are trying to help Vic out a bit by not doing that. Personally, I think the way to build stamina is to play more, so I am not sure who's approach is better. I'd play him more minutes, but maybe the Spurs' way is better, I don't know. TD's body starting breaking down after those heavy minutes seasons. I don't know if that contributed to it, or if it didn't play a part at all (might have just been the specific injuries like the meniscus tear he had in 2000, nasty ankle injury in 2005 towards the end of the regular season before the playoffs, and playing on it throughout the whole playoffs and then hurting his other ankle in the playoffs against the Sonics, Plantar Fasciitis in 2006, knee issue in 2009 etc.). Maybe it was just those specific injuries and not the extra minutes he played early on. TD also had to bang against really big/dominant PFs and Centers when he was younger.
 
Wemby all star MVP—one day of effort

Regular season MVP— a whole season of effort/risk. Thankfully it seems like wemby’s broken past the mid season wall and his minutes have been hovering low 30s aside from the lakers blowout recently

If he can get to consistently above 30 as a floor and low-mid 30s as a norm the MVPs will come with it
 
Ice009 said:
Yes, you're right. I do remember TD playing a ton of minutes in those seasons. I don't know if that caused a fair bit of wear and tear on him, and/or if the Spurs thought the same and are trying to help Vic out a bit by not doing that. Personally, I think the way to build stamina is to play more, so I am not sure who's approach is better. I'd play him more minutes, but maybe the Spurs' way is better, I don't know. TD's body starting breaking down after those heavy minutes seasons. I don't know if that contributed to it, or if it didn't play a part at all (might have just been the specific injuries like the meniscus tear he had in 2000 etc.). TD also had to bang against really big/dominant PFs and Centers.
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TD won MVP because he played more minutes.while 22 year old Wemby is already treated like 34year old duncan with BS load managment. So how can wemby win MVP if his he is playing less minutes(29mpg)?
 
wEmBoY said:
TD won MVP because he played more minutes.while 22 year old Wemby is already treated like 34year old duncan with BS load managment. So how can wemby win MVP if his he is playing less minutes(29mpg)?
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He has a great chance of winning MVP this season if he stays healthy and we finish with the number 1 or the number 2 seed. Especially with some other players possibly being disqualified because they’re under 65 games.
 
tearsofmorningdew said:
Wemby all star MVP—one day of effort

Regular season MVP— a whole season of effort/risk. Thankfully it seems like wemby’s broken past the mid season wall and his minutes have been hovering low 30s aside from the lakers blowout recently

If he can get to consistently above 30 as a floor and low-mid 30s as a norm the MVPs will come with it
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Lmao allstar MVP means nothing and it doesnt even count on a player’s resume. Its an exibition game. Lmao. Only kobe dick riders give allstar mvp a meaning because their idol cant win multiple league MVP. Lmao
 
wEmBoY said:
Lmao allstar MVP means nothing and it doesnt even count on a player’s resume. Its an exibition game. Lmao. Only kobe dick riders give allstar mvp a meaning cant win multiple league MVP. Lmao
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it’s a one day event that’s fun. following that logic regular season MVP is barely worth more. Especially when you have mongs like nash winning it twice in a row.

all that truly matters is rings and finals MVPs
 
wEmBoY said:
TD won MVP because he played more minutes.while 22 year old Wemby is already treated like 34year old duncan with BS load managment. So how can wemby win MVP if his he is playing less minutes(29mpg)?
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The Spurs are trying to look at his longevity. I don't know if it's the right approach or not. I'm more worried about the playoffs and stamina in the playoffs. I'd play him more minutes (around 32-33, and certain games might give him a bit more 4th quarter minutes and not stick to the same substitution pattern all the time) to try and build his stamina more, but I really don't know what the right approach is. I see what the Spurs are trying to do by limiting his minutes. Maybe it is the right way to go.
 
tearsofmorningdew said:
it’s a one day event that’s fun. following that logic regular season MVP is barely worth more. Especially when you have mongs like nash winning it twice in a row.

all that truly matters is rings and finals MVPs
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Exactly. Do you think TD thought Nash was better than him? No chance, and TD proved it in the playoffs.
 
tearsofmorningdew said:
it’s a one day event that’s fun. following that logic regular season MVP is barely worth more. Especially when you have mongs like nash winning it twice in a row.

all that truly matters is rings and finals MVPs
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I rate league MVP higher than finals mvp tbh. Any scrub can get hot in a 7 game series can win finals MVP like iguodala. Lmao
 
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